WARNING to those who run LATE on the Chicago Lakefront path

Listen2Me wrote:

DO NOT LISTEN TO HIS DIRECTIONS AND DO NOT GO JOGGING. You're in a new city, where you have no idea where u r and Cermak, to us Chicagoans is not a safe street. Don't do it, it is a very unsafe area, especially for a female.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS GUY, GO FOR A RUN.

From Chinatown to the Lake along Cermak is safe, especially early in the morning, there are 2 blocks (from the red line to the McCormick area) that are not fantastic, but still perfectly safe for anybody w/ the minimal amount of common sense. Enjoy your run.

Still no response from alderman Brendan RIley of the 42nd ward.

Salad Tossers wrote:

malmo wrote:

If gangbangers were worried about looking stupid and immature they wouldn't wear pants that hung down past their asses would they?

Apparently wearing the pants below their asses orignated from prison culture. The guys in prison who wear their pants are forced to by a domineering inmate. The pants below their asses signifies to the rest of the population that their someones bitch. So all you turds in the free world who wear your pants like this take note of this. I guess you'll fit in well when you get to prison with those that are someones boy toy.

Get your facts straight. The low pants in prison originated from their belts being taken away. The craze spread to the streets when released inmates continued with this new fashion statement and it was picked up by all the wannabees.

I highly agree with this posters advice. I have lived in this city my entire life and currently reside in the south loop neighborhood. Cermak rd is the southern bordering street of the neighborhood. While the neighborhood has been significantly cleaned up over the past few years, its still got a way to go! That is not the greatest area. This along with not knowing the city could very easily and quickly end you up in a very bad area and situation.

I highly agree with this posters advice. I have lived in this city my entire life and currently reside in the south loop neighborhood. Cermak rd is the southern bordering street of the neighborhood. While the neighborhood has been significantly cleaned up over the past few years, its still got a way to go! That is not the greatest area. This along with not knowing the city could very easily and quickly end you up in a very bad area and situation.

Time to be a big boy wrote:

Can you imagine they were white people down there smacking blacks ? the media would have a fit and Obama would send Eric Holder there to straighten things out. Oh well, they are only white people.

Do any of you really think these assault cases on the Lakefront (with black perps) will ever be prosecuted as hate crimes? Discuss?

Never in a million years. Especially in Chicago. The reverends have Daley so intimidated he'll quash anything.

I have never seen or heard of hate crime charges when a white person was a victim of a crime.

If a person of color gets beat up, hate charges are always considered. When it's the other way it's "chance" and "it can't be proved".

You'd be amazed how the reverand race pimps have been able to dictate policing in this city.

Basketball Jones wrote:

Salad Tossers wrote:

Apparently wearing the pants below their asses orignated from prison culture. The guys in prison who wear their pants are forced to by a domineering inmate. The pants below their asses signifies to the rest of the population that their someones bitch. So all you turds in the free world who wear your pants like this take note of this. I guess you'll fit in well when you get to prison with those that are someones boy toy.

Get your facts straight. The low pants in prison originated from their belts being taken away. The craze spread to the streets when released inmates continued with this new fashion statement and it was picked up by all the wannabees.

Why so defensive BBall Jones? Were you somebody's lady boy in the big house?

"Mayor Daley says recent fighting and other disturbances around North Avenue Beach were due to suburban youths text-messaging each other to meet up and drink. Police say of 22 people arrested this week on the beach, 14 were suburbanites."

What a guy!!!

Salad Tossers wrote:

Basketball Jones wrote:

Get your facts straight. The low pants in prison originated from their belts being taken away. The craze spread to the streets when released inmates continued with this new fashion statement and it was picked up by all the wannabees.

Why so defensive BBall Jones? Were you somebody's lady boy in the big house?

Not defensive at all. Just calling out fools.

According to Daley and Chicago Police 14 of the 22 Kids arrested were from the suburbs. You can read the article here.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/2325560,daley-beach-arrests-drinking-052710.article

They were at the beach wasting time, and causing trouble. It was not a gang, a bunch of black indivuduals does not mean a gang, no more than a bunch of white kids means a lynching. Race has nothing to do with it. People who use race as an excuse are ignorant fools.

I run the bike path several times a week. I've run it for the last 5 years. This time of year I see people destroying garbage cans, throwing bottles, and just making a mess of the place. Last July I saw a man who was killed by a driver because the pedestrian had been hit trying to cross lake shore drive. Since the beginning of the year, 8 Bodies have been found in Lake Michigan, along the lakefront path.

And rarely have I seen a police car. So this activity has been a long time coming. It's not a surprise. Be careful. Be alert.

south looper wrote:

I highly agree with this posters advice. I have lived in this city my entire life and currently reside in the south loop neighborhood. Cermak rd is the southern bordering street of the neighborhood. While the neighborhood has been significantly cleaned up over the past few years, its still got a way to go! That is not the greatest area. This along with not knowing the city could very easily and quickly end you up in a very bad area and situation.

She is staying in Chinatown, so she is already on Cermak, between there and McCormick place there are 4 blocks. Its not great, but at 6am it should not be an issue for anybody with any common sense.

If you always afraid to go out then the asshole thugs win, GO FOR THE RUN.

Lakefront runner wrote:

"Never in a million years. Especially in Chicago. The reverends have Daley so intimidated he'll quash anything.

I have never seen or heard of hate crime charges when a white person was a victim of a crime.

If a person of color gets beat up, hate charges are always considered. When it's the other way it's "chance" and "it can't be proved".

You'd be amazed how the reverand race pimps have been able to dictate policing in this city.

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Yes clearly white people don't get a fair shake in our society.

My God white people are ignorant. Makes me long for the days when us Irish Americans were not considered white

Silky Johnson wrote:

UncleB is such a tool. Can we just ban this guy and Nobama right now?

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Let me see if I have this straight. You guys post anti-black, anti-muslim, anti- latino racist threads and then whine when somebodydoesn't disagree with you.

Maybe one day you will grow some spine

Let me see if I have this straight. Do you think all of the groups you defend are incapable of racism, or do you think they have some kind of a free pass to act anyway they want?

bzxeaz wrote:

Let me see if I have this straight. Do you think all of the groups you defend are incapable of racism, or do you think they have some kind of a free pass to act anyway they want?

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Actually, you don't have it straight at all. What a shock. I am defending nobody. Merely pointing out what a bunch of whiny racists you are

oceanspray –

The 18th Street pedestrian overpass over the railroad tracks, and the connecting tunnel under Lake Shore Drive, are about as safe a way to access the Lakefront Path as exists anywhere in Chicago. The neighborhood at the west end of it is upscale residential. Just do the normal common sense things you would do in any big city. Be aware of your surroundings, know where you’re going, don’t wear headphones.

Once you get over the railroad tracks, and reach the bottom of the long ramp, you are not yet at the Lakefront Path. At the link is a map that will help with that. It just shows the short segment between the McCormick Place area and the entrance to the overpass (which has a nice little park with a “Battle of Fort Dearborn” historical marker), plus the bridge and tunnel themselves, plus the route from the other end of the tunnel over to the Lakefront Path.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3763763

When you get to the bottom of the ramp, turn right and go straight east through the tunnel under Lake Shore Drive. When you get to the east end of the tunnel, you’ll be facing the parking garage for Soldier Field. Turn left.

Run NE along the side of the parking garage, but don’t go straight through the next tunnel, that you can see Soldier Field on the other side of. Instead, bend right so you’re now running east along the north side of the parking garage. As the sidewalk you’re on begins to bend to the right, you’ll see a narrower paved walkway on your left, which has a water fountain on the left-hand side just after it turns off the sidewalk you’re on. Take that.

Follow it east across the four-way intersection (Museum Campus Drive – not busy). The Lakefront Path is just on the other side of Museum Campus Drive. Right is south; left is north. Either way is perfectly safe by the standards of any major US city, despite some of the more hysterical stuff elsewhere in this thread.

Once you’re on the Lakefront Path, even if you should happen to lose the path and either are completely lost or are just no longer sure you’re really on the “official” Lakefront Path (the signage is excellent in most places, but not all), there is no way you can really wander into a bad area. When you feel like you’re ready to turn around, just retrace your steps.

It’s a great city, and it has NOT suddenly become dramatically less safe. Welcome and have fun.

Just because they were from the suburbs does not mean they are not gang members. Learn your Chicago history and current events. When Daley tore down the housing projects to make room for upscale consumers like you to move in to the newly built luxury condos, the project dwellers were relocated throughout the city and suburbs. It was called scattered site housing. The suburbs were pissed because they inherited loads of gang members. Most of the people, including the riff-raff, that hang out at the lakefront don't live anywhere near the lakefront, they can't afford to.

Silly Old Fossil wrote:

Do any of you really think these assault cases on the Lakefront (with black perps) will ever be prosecuted as hate crimes? Discuss?

"Perps"? Too much Law and Order, anyone?

Yes, if the assailants were shouting, "take this, white man," during the assault, it certainly could be prosecuted as a hate crime. Exactly the same as when white people assault black people.

The thing is that these sorts of attacks really aren't motivated racially per se. It's much more a cultural or class-based issue. I'm black, and please believe me that when I run through areas like this in running shorts and singlets I don't feel any safer than I imagine my white friends do.

Like it or not, as runners we're seen by these "perps" as different, and specifically as being better off, which is a reasonable generalization. In this country, there is a pretty substantial overlap between well-off runners and the white population, which might might make you feel as if you're being victimized on the basis of your race. But you're not (usually).