Does Kendra Schaaf run track?

rsb wrote:

I could tell stories of a dozen or more of the top women I have coached, including several of the top runners in Canada, almost all of whom had to work through this stuff at some point...

It's a good thing then you've never gone on listing all the top women you've coached so that readers might be able to put two and two together to know who you are specifically identifying as having had eating disorder issues in the past.

I think that the whole "hush-hush" stigma around ED's is a big part of the problem. If instead it were treated as other problems of compulsion, like overtraining, it would be much more helpful to everyone involved.

With both female and male athletes, I frame the issue in terms of acheiving optimal body weight and nutrition for the challenges of running fast and training hard. Women have additional factors (such as monthly hormaonal changes) that must be accounted for, and I find that educating the runners on this up front, rather than treating it as a taboo, is much more healthy in the long term. Of course, if I find that even one of my faster athletes is truly jeopardizing their long-term health, I will let them know that I can't coach an athlete that is undermining their training, whether it be through overtraining, poor nutrition, poor sleep habits, alcohol/drug abuse, or whatever. If it isn't healthy long-term, then the point of sport is missing entirely.

[quote]rsb wrote:

Again, I have no interest in recruiting Kendra. If she wanted to move here and train and race, we could talk about it...that's the whole story, believe it or not, I really could care less...

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rsb: You are great! you missed your calling! First, after you tell everyone what a great coach you have been, listing all your athletes, and then you say " the offer is out there" to Kendra and her Canadian coach, Then You have the stupidity to deny to us that you want to recruit her and coach her!? Do you think we all were born last night?

Then after you listed all your athletes by name, you submit a later post saying that most of your previous athletes had eating disorders, but you don't want to name them, to shield them from us. Like we can't put two and two together!

It appears one guy even accuses you of sexual misconduct on the 90's! You have politician written all over you! Got off this list, move to south carolina and run for public office!?

rsb should be a politician!! wrote:

It appears one guy even accuses you of sexual misconduct on the 90's!

It wasn't 'one guy', it was several females and it was in the hard copy newspapers (not just internet message boards) back in the late 90s.

But rsb will tell you nothing was ever proven (except that he left his university and Athletics Canada positions right at that time - quit or asked to leave?).

a) You've said that before.

b) Why the assumption that any mention of past issues automatically must be from one of those three you threaten to disclose 'juicy reading' about? The issues in question were published in newspapers back in the late nineties and anyone who was involved in the sport in Canada at that time is well aware of the story, both publicly reported and through the sporting grapevine. (It sure ain't like any of those who were around the sport in that time period wouldn't know who exactly you are referring to in your threats.)

c) Persecution complex much? Instead of addressing the issue you respond with threats to people who aren't posting gossipy stories or derogatory attacks on Athletics Canada on the internet. Real mature way to deal with things.

rsb, you need to reserve this name so that no one posts as you

rsb has definitely forgotten to take his meds!

Thanks for the correction " Bit O History "

Seems like you know the situation and have the best background of all of us on rsb.

So, let me get all this right.

1. rsb is not 'recruiting' kendra, although he offered her free room and board, and coaching, which despite me being a field event guy, looks a lot like a partial scholarship offer.

2. It appears that rsb has coached some good female runners in the past.

3. rsb fancies himself as an expert on eating disorders/female body issues, dismissing qualified MD's on the subject.

4. rsb was a coach in a respected position some time ago, but 'stepped down' amongst public allegations of misconduct with some of his women.

5. rsb wants to 'set the record straight' and call out a bunch of other guys whom initials it seems most Canadian track people from the 90's would know ( instead of saying that he has learned from his 'issues', moved on, and can now just concentrate on coaching with integrity ).

This is better than a soap opera!!

Questions for rsb;

1) Since you were a good, qualified coach, why would you not have the respect to Contact the Washington coach about potentially coaching Kendra? Would you not want the same courtesy when you coached at a high level?

2) Do you really think you are better qualified at eating disorder counseling than a professional? Really?

3) Do you think setting the record straight will make your actions acceptable? If the stories are true, tell away, I will read for interest/amusement and maybe change my opinion of the situation, and you, but you seem rather desperate right now.

I knew a few Canadians in college, they all seemed nice, tell us your story, I would love to run it across them...

yo rsb set the record straight if you have nothing to hide then just say it and everyone relax he seems like a cool guy maybe wrote some posts that didnt come out how he intended but who cares dont give so hard about it

Just keep taking your shots, lads... The truth will amaze some of you, believe me... Get it all out of your system now, pop your pimples, and then clean up...

Soon enough, I'll tell you the whole story.

P.S. Nope...still on the meds...I have been since 1998, thanks for asking. I haven't missed a day --- I dare not!

rsb wrote:

Just keep taking your shots, lads... The truth will amaze some of you, believe me... Get it all out of your system now, pop your pimples, and then clean up...

Soon enough, I'll tell you the whole story.

P.S. Nope...still on the meds...I have been since 1998, thanks for asking. I haven't missed a day --- I dare not!

drama queen!!!

That group of girls were so talented that my cat could have coached them to a Pac 10 sweep. Metcalf deserves very little credit here.

valley262 wrote:

That group of girls were so talented that my cat could have coached them to a Pac 10 sweep. Metcalf deserves very little credit here.

Credit for being a good recruiter, perhaps?

That Ron Bowker would put himself forward as someone who could deal with eating diosorders in young women is beyond the pale.

Given his history with vulnerable young females he is the last person who should have that position of influence.

If one NCAA school deems an athlete medically not fit to participate (even if the athlete is not currently a student there but perhaps a prospective student) are they bound to disclose that information to a governing body of student athletes or is there such an entity?

If the NCAA really wanted to promote healthy athletes as the image of sport they would insist that coaches and trainers take a more proactive approach to disclosing eating disorders and any potentially serious health concerns resulting from any unhealthy behaviors (eating disorders are not the only issues confronting athletes) that they may be aware of for all sports and all athletes, men and women.

If they took as strong a stand on this issue as they do on enforcing recruiting rules and athlete compensation rules they could fix a lot of problems.

8 days ago rsb wrote:

Soon enough, I'll tell you the whole story.

Bin Der Dun Dat wrote:

valley262 wrote:

That group of girls were so talented that my cat could have coached them to a Pac 10 sweep. Metcalf deserves very little credit here.

Credit for being a good recruiter, perhaps?

Nope. Kelly Strong was the recruiter.

why did she leave?

I don't have a personal interest in any of these folks, but just to give some info to others who may be as clueless as I was, here's Kendra Schaaf (2d from left) in 2008:

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/christine-babcock-kendra-schaaf-katie-follett-C2UbHZ.jpg

And here she is from fall 2009:

http://c0179261.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/381646_idvmizp4g7rrr0gjyla1_60.jpg