Regina Jacobs -- outstanding role model

I've not heard of her attacking any other runners, she speaks very well and professionally, so her character appears to be of a high standard to me.

To the contrary, "you" are attacking "her".

Before you worry about what someone else is doing you need to clean out your own medicine cabinet.

Why are you still posting. Your posts have been shown to be faulty in every way. Either you didn't read these posts, or you just read them and continue to ignore the obvious logic spelled out in them. No one would personally attack you if you were actually participating in an actual discussion, but your not all you are doing is restating points that have already been proven faulty.

READ THE FOLLOWING POSTS BEFORE POSTING AGAIN!

SoCalPete

"dunes runner -

Either you are playfully enjoying yourself by getting people riled up over an issue you know to be assinine.

OR

At the risk of sounding like a snob, you are simply uneducated in matters concerning the rules of our sport and the effects of various compounds.

Contrary to many people's take on the matter, there is a vast difference between having a right to your own opinion and having an opinion worth considering.

A) You apparently have no clue as to the rules regarding performance-enhancing drugs. This "new" drug is actually a minor variation of two banned steroids. That makes it a banned drug itself under the "related substances" clause, clearly stated in the rules (which you can access on the USATF website).

B) Claiming there's no difference between Advil and steroids (and caffeine and heroin and Prozac and THC and cocaine and lidocaine and aspirin and alcohol and nicotine and all the various other substances that come under your one-size-fits-all heading of "Drugs") simply shows that you have zero background in physiology, microbiology, chemistry, or pharmacology. Listening to you address the effects of drugs is like listening to a second-grader who's struggling with multiplication explain why there's no difference between the alphabet and physics because both use letters.

You are welcome to believe that cheaters should be allowed to compete and set records. Heck, my own son believed in Santa Claus until last year. But don't try to frame your argument by making stuff up.

So keep this in mind for your future replies:

1) You don't know the rules.

2) You know nothing about drugs.

3) You don't understand what athletes mean when they talk about "winning" and "finishing first." (Here's a clue: they don't mean by cheating.)

All that said: I still think you have to be kidding!

And, yes, I am a druggie: in fact, I'm about to have another cup of coffee (no Advil for a week now!)."

AND THIS ONE ALSO

Just Say No.

"Good job SoCalPete, you slamdunked Dunes Runner on that last post! (of course the ball was thrown to you just right...there was no missing that shot :-) ). But he is dead serious. NO ONE would waste as much time as he does making these points if he did not believe them. My turn to pummel this dimwit:

Dunes Runner, your stupidity is so transcendent, it has had the power of brining the rest of the Let?sRun posters together in harmony. While we normally often disagree with each other, not a solitary soul agrees with your nonsense.

Let?s examine your points again:

1. Regina has run fast, is a ?good sport? when she runs (does not throw elbows), so therefore no matter how much she has cheated, you still like her.

Hey forgive if you want to, but she deserves the condemnation for cheating. All people have ?good sides? and maybe Regina does too. And sure, even without drugs, she is fast. But she committed the ultimate sin of sport: she cheated. She knew what the punishment for that would be. She?ll reap what she sowed.

2. TGH was not banned, therefore Regina did nothing wrong.

As many of us has shown on here, the rules unequivocally state that if you take something similar chemically to already banned substances, that is illegal. When in doubt, don?t ingest. She gambled and lost.

3. All substances are the same and should all be considered legal or illegal.

That one is even stupider than I thought possible. A substance is considered illegal on 2 counts: do the ?powers that be? consider it a major performance enhancer, AND if so, is it also harmful to the body? It really has to be both. There are many things harmful to you like heroin that they will not test for. Why? It does not help performance. And there are many things that help your performance like Carbohydrates or Protein, but are they not really dangerous to you (and yes ANYTHING in an extremely excessive amount is bad for you, so spare me that argument). It?s pretty simple. So?what about advil and coffee? Neither is considered to be an extreme performance enhancer (like EPO or Steroids), so they do not meet the first standard of an illegal substance. And not coffee, though a little bit helpful possibly, is considered VERY safe. Advil in high doses could be harmful, but a performance enhancer of a high degree?? Ha, no way. Explain why it is ( I guarantee you this, if it were, there would be somebody somewhere taking 10 pills before a race. But there is no one doing that, because it won't make you faster)

There is no hypocrisy at all here.

The saddest thing of all?? That you actually believe you are making sense, and raising good points, and that the rest of us are not ?on the same level? of thought as you. That is what is both EXTREMELY laughable AND sad at the same time. You are truly a NUT."

You are no longer seen as a fully sane person, but rather as a sideshow. I am totally serious your posts are so bad that they make for good conversation pieces.

dunes runner wrote:

I\'ve not heard of her attacking any other runners, she speaks very well and professionally, so her character appears to be of a high standard to me.

To the contrary, \"you\" are attacking \"her\".

Before you worry about what someone else is doing you need to clean out your own medicine cabinet.

True, but actions speak louder than words. She is attacking the integrity of track and field.

runher wrote:

She is attacking the integrity of track and field.

Where is she attacking anyone?

She's doesn't knock anyone around on the track.

She's not posting here.

She's not criticizing or attacking anyone.

She runs well, she's black, and she's a woman.

But then some of you "always knew that" didn't you.

Honestly, I don't know why anyone is even paying attention to Dunes. I realize that my opinions have been in the minority before, but his are so absurd, that I question whether he even feels the way he's stating.

dunes runner is right, you people are so blinded by your hate, you don't listen to his arguments.

just keep calling Regina a cunt and keep your heads in the sand.

How many other great runners continued to improve with age, very few. That is why Regina is so good, she shows to all people that just because you get older doesn't mean you can't be a good competitor.

Dunes Runner/ Sammy whoever you are if you want anyone to take you seriously. Stop spouting out your typical race card shit. Read the posts that I quoted. You have done nothing except repeat your same illogical points over and over without giving any evidence to back them up.

I personally know of people who have given up their jobs in order to pursue the dream of making the olympics, and people like Regina using drugs as an unfair advantage are keeping those legitimate runners from acheiving their lifetime goal of making the olympic team. The fact that you refer to the feelings of those runners being cheated out of a spot on the olympic team as "Sour Grapes" makes me sick to my stomach. What is your answer to that?

SUZY wrote:

REGINA HAS A LOT TALENT. DRUGS DON'T MAKE AN EXELENT RUNNER, IT IS JUST A LITTLE BUST TO GET THERE. IF YOU DON'T AGREE, GIVE EPO TO ALL AMERICANS THAT RUN IN THE 2 '15 RANGE FOR THE MARATHON...AND SEE. THEY WON'T RUN 2'08, MAYBE 2'12. DRUG DOES NOT DO EVERYTHING, YOU GOT HAVE TALENT

suzy, if you gave epo to an american 2:10 he would run 2:05 what is your f***ing point?

Sammy -

CAlling someone a cocksmoker. good comeback you stupid f***. argue on the merits, or not at all.

go blow yourself, cocksmoker

Dunes Runner -

you are a f***ing idiot. just reading the crap that spews from your posts is making us all that much dumber. do us a favor and dont be such a dildo, regina is a cheater, and paula is just trying to clean up the sport

Fuck no. I am not joking. I am so tired of everyone bashing Regina. Every body bashes her because she is a successful black female distance athlete. People were calling her a cunt before she got caught with drugs. I hope her B sample is clean, then she can keep running faster than all you f***ing loser.

Regina is a great role model. Just as good as the stupid steriod monkey Mark McGuiwre or Jason Giambi or Barry Bonds.

At least she doesn't bang a bunch of groupies, or rape a girl in Colorado like that loser Kobe Bryant. Why don't you guys use your outrage where it matters, shut the f*** up, and go run.

peace.

Sammy wrote:

Fuck no. I am not joking. I am so tired of everyone bashing Regina. Every body bashes her because she is a successful black female distance athlete. People were calling her a cunt before she got caught with drugs. I hope her B sample is clean, then she can keep running faster than all you f***ing loser.

Regina is a great role model. Just as good as the stupid steriod monkey Mark McGuiwre or Jason Giambi or Barry Bonds.

At least she doesn't bang a bunch of groupies, or rape a girl in Colorado like that loser Kobe Bryant. Why don't you guys use your outrage where it matters, shut the f*** up, and go run.

peace.

And if her B sample is not clean? Then you will agree she is scum and shut the f*** up and go run?

Truly this is scary. At first I thought this was a joke, and I still have a shadow of a hope that it might still be. I am truly saddened that some people can be so blind to facts and logic. I don't know whats worse, that someone started a post proclaiming a drug cheat as an outstanding role model(I still hold on to the hope that this is a joke) or the fact that a few people have actually agreed with him/her/it.

"At least she doesn't bang a bunch of groupies, or rape a girl in Colorado like that loser Kobe Bryant. Why don't you guys use your outrage where it matters, shut the f*** up, and go run."

I said I wasn't going to respond to any posts, but this is post is unreal, so I'll keep this short. Are you seriouly making the point that she is a good role model because she hasn't raped anyone. So along the same lines Charles Manson is an upstanding citizen because he didn't kill as many people as Tim McVeigh.

Regina is a great role model because she is a black women who started to perform BETTER as she got older, not too many people can do that.

Also george bush is a good role model so f*** you.

dunes runner wrote:

Gucci Little Piggy wrote:

Regina is a thief and she makes me sick.

Since when is sickness related to intelligence.

Rather the inverse is true.

This is probably why a meaningless fine point, that you don't understand, results in your making irrelevant broad sweeping generalizations that are not related to anything.

That is why I used "and" and not "which makes me sick." You are a f***ing idiot.