The real question is are they all on t3? Not bashing just want to know the odds on this.
The real question is are they all on t3? Not bashing just want to know the odds on this.
They all see Dr. Brown who is a Thyroid specialist in Houston. Maybe they would show us the Blood work and medical files.
the most common thyroid replacement drug is levoxyl or synthyoid. these are T4 that convert to T3. You can also take straight T3 which is short acting.
it's generally throught that it doesn't matter which one you take since in the end, it's all T3.
So, i'm sure they are all taking suppplemental t3 in some form.
Wonder when Al Sal is going to try to get Ritz on the "full" program?
Houston we have a problem wrote:
They all see Dr. Brown who is a Thyroid specialist in Houston. Maybe they would show us the Blood work and medical files.
I actually have met him and I have discussed track with someone in his office before.
He also worked with some former elite sprinters in the area. I won't name names...But it isn't difficult to figure out.
What other U.S. Runners have this sort of Thyroid condition? How many have LowT and other conditions?
I watched the movie "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" and immediately thought about Rupp, Goucher's, etc, and their thyroid deficiencies. In the movie it shows how easy it is to get proscribed medication like this to help with "deficiencies."
More smoke wrote:
I'd take a wild stab at it and say that the reason so many runners under the same coach have "thyroid" problems is because they have figured out a way to use the thyroid drugs to mask some other performance enhancer. USATF and USOC need to get their act together and come up with better testing!
this is correct.
Lets not forget about Tegencamp's re oxygenated blood transfusion procedure he took this spring and solinsky's crazy pill regimine, something is going on here and it is not good, I guess this is the only way the rest of the world can bridge the gap to the africans.
bump.
Long discussion on salazar and thyroid meds. Good read, if outdated. I suppose this is the sort of shady thing Al Sal is being accused of in these parts.
The mean incidence is 3.5 per 1000 in women, and 0.6 per 1000 in men. The probability of developing hypothyroidism increases with age and reaches 14 per 1000 in women aged between 75 and 80 years. There is a clear consensus on how hypothyroidism should be treated. Monitoring of hypothyroidism is almost entirely undertaken in primary care. This measure is one of two Hypothyroid measures.
There is no clear evidence on the appropriate frequency of thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH)/T4 measurement. However, the consensus group on thyroid disease recommended an annual check of TSH/T4 levels in all patients treated with thyroxine. In addition, they recommend an annual check in patients previously treated with radio-iodine or partial thyroidectomy (Consensus statement for good practice and audit measures in the management of hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism. BMJ 1996).
agip wrote:
bump.
Long discussion on salazar and thyroid meds. Good read, if outdated. I suppose this is the sort of shady thing Al Sal is being accused of in these parts.
idiocy. read what the actual thyroid patients have posted.
also, something is only shady if it is hidden. salazar has shared all this stuff for decades in order to help inform other runners to look after their health.
Isn't a side effect for prolonged use of Advair (Corticosteroids) able to cause hypothyroidism?
YEP, it is a side effect:
http://asthma.emedtv.com/advair/advair-side-effects-p2.html
http://www.advair.com/asthma/about-advair/risks-and-side-effects/asthma-side-effects.html
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Question is, which one is a performance enhancer, or are both able to improve performance.
They use it as a masking agent for PEDS.
"They use it as a masking agent for PEDS."
---Source/Proof???
the adaption to running is a decrease in the rate of metabolism during rest
LMFAO!
Technorigine wrote:
Just because Rupp wears that thing on his leg doesn't mean he's on thigh 'roids. You guys need to just back off on the allegations.
sjm1368 wrote:
I've been on thyroid meds since HS and will be on them for the rest of my life unfortunately.
Who is this sjm1368 guy? Seems like he has a lot of knowledge re: thyroid conditions. We should ask him about the NOP stuff.
OnTheFence1 wrote:
sjm1368 wrote:I've been on thyroid meds since HS and will be on them for the rest of my life unfortunately.
Who is this sjm1368 guy? Seems like he has a lot of knowledge re: thyroid conditions. We should ask him about the NOP stuff.
yeah, good point. And maybe ask the Gouchers. Both of them are on thyroid meds, Adam is on anti-depressants also, and one of them might one asthma meds too.
Those Gouchers and their "gray area" meds, someone oughta look into that.
Well now we know. Galen is on Cytomel, the quicker acting T3 drug. Goucher said she is on Levoxyl, the more common type T4 drug.