Minnesota Governor Tim Walz decided to run the Saint Paul Turkey Trot. He won the M60-64 age group and ran a 46:47 time, which is an age graded score of 70. On what appeared to be a legit, maybe even slightly long, course too! Tim Walz is faster than many people here. Who wants to see Rojo travel to Minnesota to race Walz next year. I think Walz would win!
my final position on Walz, as a republican, is that i definitely like him. He comes off really well in his interviews, outside of the try to hard weirdness that came with the presidential campaign. He definitely takes some weird sides that I fully disagree with, but overall, i think he wants what's best for his constituents. can't ask for more than that.
At the end of the day, in many ways, Tim Walz is ONE OF US!
Second, Trump falsely claimed Walz signed a bill to put tampons in boys' bathrooms. The bill makes tampons available in girls' bathrooms and neutral gender bathrooms, as well as nurses' offices for no cost; they don't put any in boys' bathrooms.
A variety of Minnesota public school districts say they do not provide tampons in boys’ bathrooms — debunking a claim former President Donald Trump has been making about Gov. Tim Walz, the Democratic vice presidential candida...
Second, Trump falsely claimed Walz signed a bill to put tampons in boys' bathrooms. The bill makes tampons available in girls' bathrooms and neutral gender bathrooms, as well as nurses' offices for no cost; they don't put any in boys' bathrooms.
Have you considered he might have been undertrained ten years ago?
Have you seen his body today?
Do you know how good a 46 minute 10k is for a 61 year old? At 6 feet tall and 195 pounds?
I have lost to some "heavy" guys in races. It turned out they used to be even heavier.
When a heavy guy loses his weight, he gets instant boost in cardiovascular fitness because his heart and lung had been trained to move that heavy body. VO2 Max is measured in relative to body weight. So any weight loss is gain in VO2 Max.
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Do you know how good a 46 minute 10k is for a 61 year old? At 6 feet tall and 195 pounds?
I have lost to some "heavy" guys in races. It turned out they used to be even heavier.
When a heavy guy loses his weight, he gets instant boost in cardiovascular fitness because his heart and lung had been trained to move that heavy body. VO2 Max is measured in relative to body weight. So any weight loss is gain in VO2 Max.
While it is admirable that Walz, as a prominent elected official, is participating in the sport of running, his performance on Thanksgiving is highly questionable when compared to his result in the 10 mile race on Oct. 5.
Second, Trump falsely claimed Walz signed a bill to put tampons in boys' bathrooms. The bill makes tampons available in girls' bathrooms and neutral gender bathrooms, as well as nurses' offices for no cost; they don't put any in boys' bathrooms.
political angle aside i'm kind of stunned at the hardcore hobby jogger forums melting down about an in-shape 60 year old guy putting up a 7+ minute pace for 10k. definitely an excellent performance but there are guys in their 60s doing that in my local clubs and nobody's busting out the blood tests when that happens. is this really surprising to people on here?
will say that in that segment there's a big contingent of former military-types, often engineers or similar, self-admittedly not "serious runners" when young but clearly stayed in shape their whole lives and had some considerable raw talent. you'd never see those guys putting up sub 15 5ks when they were younger, but they'd also never spend their time blasting 90 mile weeks while enlisted. walz's profile makes a lot of sense to me especially with the weight loss. particularly more impressive is that he's likely not able to do any semi-serious mileage, though you never know since synema was notably spending like 20 hours a week being a triathlon bum while doing nothing in the senate
the true curse of running is that you can be an semipro-level runner in your twenties and not be able to break 50 for a 10k in your retirement years, whereas any half-decent lifter can still put up some serious numbers after taking decades off... if rojo really can't go under 38 while jamaal bowman is benching 405 at 50 on a whim, really does make you wonder what the hell we're all doing here.
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz decided to run the Saint Paul Turkey Trot. He won the M60-64 age group and ran a 46:47 time, which is an age graded score of 70. On what appeared to be a legit, maybe even slightly long, course too! Tim Walz is faster than many people here. Who wants to see Rojo travel to Minnesota to race Walz next year. I think Walz would win!
Baffling, I think it's just because it doesn't line up with his other results. Clearly he put a big bullseye on his calendar for this one, and dialed in on his training and diet better than he had in the past.
his results are so very possible, but also incredibly atypical considering what's been published of his running accomplishments over the past 12 or 13 years.
the results are mostly undeniable though. we don't have mile splits, but we have offical race results, along with his garmin screenshot. so it's all very cool.
i would love to hear what he changed to get ready for this race, but I'm mostly doubtful that anybody who knows how to ask running related questions will interview him to get the kind of info that all of us here would love.
Honestly, this is something that would be cool for JG to go out of his way to look into.
It was the 10k. Who knows what his actual PR is because he was running most of his races in Mankato, where I'm sure not all of them end up on Athlinks, but his best on there were 21:43 for a 5k and 45:32 for a 10k around 50-51 ten years ago. He age grades best in the mile, where he ran 6:17 at 52. Given he probably doesn't have the time (or have the time then when he was a Member of Congress) to run more than 30 miles a week or so, impressive times.
This is why I question the Turkey Trot time. His times in his early 50s are respectable but they're not great. But 46:xx at age 61 is outstanding. It's the kind of time Bill Rogers ran at that age. I would have easily beaten him in his 50s but I couldn't touch 46:xx now (62).
I don't think you younger guys understand what getting older does to your speed.
I recently ran a 4 mile race where a 60-64M ran 24:59 (6:15/mi, about 6:25/mi converted to 10k) - sure, that's an outstanding time but it wouldn't be a huge stretch to have men that age running 75s/mi slower for a 10k
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz decided to run the Saint Paul Turkey Trot. He won the M60-64 age group and ran a 46:47 time, which is an age graded score of 70. On what appeared to be a legit, maybe even slightly long, course too! Tim Walz is faster than many people here. Who wants to see Rojo travel to Minnesota to race Walz next year. I think Walz would win!
unfortunately the likely and boring truth here is that most people don't care about how they do at most road races. they're there to jog with family or friends, or to pace somebody slower, or at best to get a workout in with a club or team. definitely understandable especially given what most are like - first corral littered with the people most oblivious as to why they should not be up there with their 3 small children, courses are often short or poorly marked, etc etc etc etc. some local olympians put up 19 min 5ks to jog along with their families, which was a great thrill for people to claim a scalp (mickey mouse of course but fun group run stories). for big politicians it's also a great chance to piggyback off the established security presence at the larger races to get to jog outside. clinton's secret service famously hated that he kept trying to run outside the white house, and a former governor would line up while in office at some lowkey road races in my area with some security to get to jog with his wife.
i think it'd be cool to do a feature on walz or other famous runners, written by people who actually know the space well like gault. did we ever get to the bottom of tswift claiming she goes on 4 hour training runs to prep for the eras tour? that said, probably not going to find anything juicy on this one, but you never know... my initial guess was that sarah palin's sub-4 in her 40s was fake and I was dead wrong, and i didn't think much of paul ryan claiming a sub-3 and that turned out to be fake. incredibly unlikely like you said given that we have the actual race and the garmin data though, but it'd be good to hear about his training. clearly he locked in for this one in particular.
I do not find it credible that this 61 year old chubby guy ran a 46 minute 10k.
how do you suppose he faked his garmin screenshot, along with the official race results postings?
Faking your screenshot in Garmin is very simple. The only part that you can’t fake is the Map of the run and the Temperature. Time of day, distance and race time are easily manipulated. I believe his screen shot is proof that it is fake. Why you ask? Because the temperature at race time was 23 degrees. His Garmin screenshot shows the temperature was 27 degrees. The temperature in St Paul didn’t reach 27 degrees until noon. Since this field can’t be manipulated, it means the run was done later in the day.
Looks like tim could be in some trouble. You hate to see it. Crime syndicate, (D), Shame.
Tim Walz is 100% responsible for massive fraud in Minnesota. We let Tim Walz know of fraud early on, hoping for a partnership in stopping fraud but no, we got the opposite response. Tim Walz systematically retaliated against whistleblowers using monitoring, threats, repression,… https://t.co/cEtbnuKmgn
— Minnesota Department of Human Service Employees (@Minnesota_DHS) November 30, 2025
