Nader is low 3:29 and high 1:43 this year and always runs well tactically.
I had him for bronce. And Reynold for silver.
Claiming this is only a big surprise to Americans is completely moronic sorry. Josh Hoey also ran that fast this year. Those times do not necessarily equal an unsurprising winner these days
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Watching that back and focussing on Nader, I'm impressed with how he unboxed himself. He was boxed for 320m of that last lap. He got a bit lucky that Ben faded which opened up space to move out, but that makes his close even more impressive. Good on the guy for taking his chance. I bet there's a few guys in that field that are regretting their tactics. This was a chance for the unheralded athlete and it might not come around again with Jakob and P. Koech healthy in future champs.
Sure, he's an unexpected winner, but he's a 3:29 guy who has raced 6 Diamond Leagues, an Olympics and World Championships in the last 3 years.
If you had told me beforehand it would be a 3:34 race, I'd have given him a punchers chance.
I think any serious fan knows who Nader is, but if anything that resume underlies how shocking this is rather than makes the case we should have expected it. He’s been in the sport for a while and has never been a real factor at a global championship and certainly not in contention for the win.
Sure, he's an unexpected winner, but he's a 3:29 guy who has raced 6 Diamond Leagues, an Olympics and World Championships in the last 3 years.
If you had told me beforehand it would be a 3:34 race, I'd have given him a punchers chance.
I think any serious fan knows who Nader is, but if anything that resume underlies how shocking this is rather than makes the case we should have expected it. He’s been in the sport for a while and has never been a real factor at a global championship and certainly not in contention for the win.
Thats the resume of a guy you expect to finish like 6th. But the big names either didn’t make it (nuguse, Kessler), weren’t fit (Jacob), or ran crappy semis or finals. These slow races with a fast last 800 are really unlike DL racing. Being able run the 56/52 type closes is slightly different than grinding out 57s. Having a path at the right time can also make it a crap shoot.
None of this takes away from him showing up and executing.
I question this guy because until these championships he was a journeyman, a mediocrity at this level. No one here picked him to win and certainly not with a crushing finish over much higher-rated athletes.
Wrong. In my team we picked Isaac to medal.
1:43/3:29 is not mediocrity. You are mediocrity.
picking to WIN and picking to medal are two different things. Don’t move the goal post.
Sure, he's an unexpected winner, but he's a 3:29 guy who has raced 6 Diamond Leagues, an Olympics and World Championships in the last 3 years.
If you had told me beforehand it would be a 3:34 race, I'd have given him a punchers chance.
I think any serious fan knows who Nader is, but if anything that resume underlies how shocking this is rather than makes the case we should have expected it. He’s been in the sport for a while and has never been a real factor at a global championship and certainly not in contention for the win.
I consider myself a serious fan and didn't recognize his name until after the semi finals. Sharing this to help others in a similar situation feel better!
I'm surprised I hadn't though based on his run in Oslo. Just watched the race and he actually destroyed people over the last 100
Watching that back and focussing on Nader, I'm impressed with how he unboxed himself. He was boxed for 320m of that last lap. He got a bit lucky that Ben faded which opened up space to move out, but that makes his close even more impressive. Good on the guy for taking his chance. I bet there's a few guys in that field that are regretting their tactics. This was a chance for the unheralded athlete and it might not come around again with Jakob and P. Koech healthy in future champs.
On a lighter note: The men's 1500m final in Tokyo WC was Nader's unboxing video. Title: Hot steaming pile of garbage (another poster's desctiption of the race). Directed by Josh Kerr. Produced by Jakob Ingebritsen. Written by Jake Wightman. Starring Niels Laros as not himself. Cole Hocker as the Jostler. Narrated by Geoff Wightman. Soundtrack: Cheruiyots of fire. Any relation to actual people and events is purely coincidental.
How will he even get anyone of his caliber to race to push the pace though? He’ll be running alone with some b tier athletes behind him. This is gonna be for washed up/drug banned late in career crowd or hyrox athletes
My friend, us Brits are delighted with that. A medal for Wightman? Couldn't have imagined it at the start of the year
He seems like such a swell guy, at least best you can tell from interviews and social media posts. I hope he is able to pivot to some sort of ambassador for the sport somehow whenever he's finished competing. Providing commentary, doing publicity, whatever.
If your 3:28 guys all run 3:34 pace, it's no "upset" if some other 3:34 guy wins.
refusing to push the pace is stupid. This could have happened in 2021 if Tim and Jakob hadn't cooperated to prevent it.
This race was way slower than some athletes pbs and they just sat back and ran a silly race. Corcoran needed to take the thing by the balls a bit and get in the mix but he hung off the back for 12th. Not sure if that’s a confidence thing, but have to give it to Jake for going for it.
My friend, us Brits are delighted with that. A medal for Wightman? Couldn't have imagined it at the start of the year
He seems like such a swell guy, at least best you can tell from interviews and social media posts. I hope he is able to pivot to some sort of ambassador for the sport somehow whenever he's finished competing. Providing commentary, doing publicity, whatever.
He's an exceptional analyst as well. He was on BBC during Budapest 23. His post-track career should be fine. He's definitely one of the good guys of athletics.
Laros, Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse, Ingebrigtsen left off the podium
Fk is the right word to use for the entire 2025 Tokyo world championships. The DoD, NSA, CIA had them all fked up big time. Especially on the men's side, not one thing went right, when the heats of the 1500m were ran I already detected something was off in all the athletes. They were breathing way too hard just running high 3:30s and low 3:40s and they biomechanics were breaking down way too easily running at such pedestrian paces. then the 10000m race sealed my decision that this would be the most fked up world championships in history due to directed energy interference from those 3 muthafkers. Seb Coe should take this matter to the court of arbitration for sport and investigate and take down one of history's darkest schemes of all time.
Seb Coe can turn a complete disaster into the greatest victories against deep state corruption of all time. Kudos and waiting....
I consider myself a serious fan and didn't recognize his name until after the semi finals. Sharing this to help others in a similar situation feel better!
A 3:29/1:43 guy? Really?
I could see your mom's look when she got you report card. "Alexi does not pay attention in class. Needs improvement"