Josh Kerr: I want to be the best 1500m runner of this era - "That means I need to have more titles.. and run faster times."

He is overrated but we like him because he is perfectly clean of drugs. He subtly aired his displeasure at the American camp of Hocker, Nuguse and Kessler, trolling them as ‘I can’t control what the other camps are doing’ and prefaces the meaning of this sentence with ‘since I’m not cheating’.

That Josh prefaced the latter statement above with the former very clearly implies that he was referring to cheating in the other camps.

He is furious I tell you at Hocker, but he is masking it expertly in the name of diplomatic relations on the track.

So that’s that.

Rojo should report Hocker, Nuguse and Kessler to first USADA and if it usually doesn’t work since it’s a national AD then report them to WADA directly through secret whistleblowing channels. I’m sure Kerr’s camp has done it already. Looking at their tone it’s absolutely unequivocal that they are very hard done by the loss as felt they lost to cheaters rather than honest athletes.

Remember, Josh beat Hocker and Nuguse all season long in 2024, smashing them by vast margins each time whatever the distance. Josh smashed Hocker and Fisher at Millrose then smashed Nuguse at worlds and then smash them all at the same time at Prefontaine. Smash after smash, izzy victory one after another. From my point of view, as an American, I’m supposed to defend my countrymen but even I am finding it hard to do so.

It is arguable as with anything on the fence. Most scenarios in our today even in the political battle between Democrats and republicans are be try nearly evenly balanced. There is no clear outright moral winner. I like to think the same applies to 1500m running. It’s all up for grabs. Sometimes you win and some you lose.

Because now he knows something is suspicious in the American 1500m camps. There is a strong smell of hanky panky and he is hiding in his belly what is macabre anger and vengeance. He doesn’t bely it because he has a good team around him to console him and talk sense. A good fiancee, good coach who is his best friend and close knit family. They absorb all his nights of furiously tossing and turning in bed in the aftermath of the loss in Paris like a punching bag.

He says he doesn’t have a particular stance on any of his competitor for now but already has a general one. He generally believes they are cheating. He is using his finely honed gut racing instincts to probe around how Hocker moved past him and Nuguse almost had him. He can sense their uncharacteristic physical prowess, their breathing and whether there is weakness in them and found it foreign. It don’t belong to natural ability from training and dieting.

It is Kerr´s own choice that he isn´t joining more fast races!

See my post 78 on page 4.

Both Kerr and Jakob run a PACED indoor mile in February. Who do you think will run the fastest?

Any sane and honest ethical fan knows Josh Kerr is the real Olympic 1500m champion of 2024. The diplomatic side of Josh would not admit explicitly he was the winner because he knows he would be assassinated in public. The unseen side of Josh would know he was the real Olympic champion and. Or Hocker or even Nuguse. He would have also felt Jakob would be second and none of those 2 Americans in second place.

There was no dark horse. Read Josh’s comments in the article again, he didn’t refer to the Americans as outsiders to the gold medal, he subtly hinted instead that they were cheaters to the gold.

Yes but those choices are constantly evolving and prone to change for whatever economic or strategic reasons. Before we know it he is now about to race more in 2025, and maybe he is going to change again in 2026, 2027 and so on.

I think both can run equally well for next month. They are professional milers after all. The issue right now I feel is that Josh is finding Jakob less of a problem now than Hocker, Nuguse and Kessler with his latest shots are American camps cheating.

I believe somebody has tipped him off about Hocker, Nuguse and Kessler and they very well could be Americans who did so since he is surrounded by American pals and training partners, so over the next couple of months I do believe he will gradually loosen the grudge on Jakob and tighten it over Hocker, Nuguse and Kessler. And that’s because he knows Jakob is running clean after all.

For the last season he isn't the clear no. 1 since he hasn't medaled at the Olympics and Kerr has a positive win/loss record against him.

But I personally definitely would rank him no. 1.

Even for the last two seasons you can have arguments for Kerr, who has beaten him twice at the global champs. Looking for a longer period (up to Doha 2019), you can't come up with another no. 1, since Ingebrigtsen leads at any measure some might look for.

That is an absurd statement.

I do agree if he wins gold this year it becomes a lot more interesting but Kerr's record outside of the Worlds and Olympics isn't super impressive. Yes Worlds and Olympics are super super important but there are a lot more important races.

Yes we do need more depth but some people have threatened the honor of our sport with unsavoury methods and ways of training and winning. This has riled up Josh Kerr who still has managed to hide his displeasure extremely well. I always say that we must trust the bases of a well achieve professional athlete like Josh. If he senses something is up, our first response must be to always believe him on his senses because after all we are talking about the best athlete in the world who has the best mental and physical fitness for the job which job includes ‘sensing’ behavior on the track foreign to natural performances.

We can’t just dismiss him and say ‘ha he is a poor loser or douchebag or lacking ethics and reasons’. It’s unethical and imprudent to do that.

Not yet the best. But the same for Jakob as well. The word best is an unsuitable choice of vocabulary for all the athletes in this era. And for all the reasons already stated herewith on this thread.

When you say somebody is best, it means you are doing so from hindsight long after the end of their professional careers or at least near its twilight when they are in their 30s.

You can’t say somebody is best when they are still concurrently competing without clarifying that you are describing a certain limited time frame and selected races and competitors

You can't be serious.

Well Kerr has not won either of them so I guess. He is supposed to be such a good championship racer but does not run Euros for an easy medal.

That is what he has done since 2022.

What?

Yeah sorry that was unclear. I assumed everyone knew I meant he was a 3:26-high guy.

Nah but you talk about him so much that we just assume.

The guy with the shorter season had less chances to race? Also you really saying the DLs only purpose is WRs? That seems kind of ignorant and devaluing the races people do during the year.

Yeah I like the Jakob-Josh rivalry but lets not pretend that either of them are clean. Most of them are doing the same drugs so it ends up being an even playing field.