This rivalry is so good for the sport precisely because it give us (the fans) a chance to decide what style of racer do we like the most. Kerr and Jakob represent two different ways of approaching the sport and honestly, I like the debate/controversy.
I am on team Jakob because I am sick of hearing people say he needs a rabbit to win. That is simply not true.
I am on team Jakob because he is unequivocally a generational talent who unless he gets injured or disenfranchised he will be an exciting runner to watch for many years.
Kerr is an exceptional athlete who can win any race but he is just not as special in what he can achieve. That is not saying he cannot amaze me in the near future. He just is a lot less likely to amaze me than Jakob.
As to the rivalry....Kerr is exceptionally good and getting under Jakob's skin. Maybe age will cure that but I doubt it.
Team GB placed third in the men's race, with all runners behind Jakob. Where was Duck Duck Kerr
Jakob's "unpaced win" count includes 2 Olympic gold, 2 WC gold, 6 Euro track gold, and 8 Euro XC gold. How are Kerr's numbers? Exactly two global golds -- one indoor. 😆
On the Kerr side. Jakob knows exactly where to find him this year. Meet him at grand slam not some paced world record attempt/set up for Jakob race.
LOL. Kerr knew that Jakob would be at European XC championships in December, but was too busy posting photos with his cybertruck to join team GB and race him.
On the Kerr side. Jakob knows exactly where to find him this year. Meet him at grand slam not some paced world record attempt/set up for Jakob race.
I mean sure, but it’s an odd doubling format with early timing especially vis a vis World Indoors. I hope he does LA and if he does Flagstaff it works. The other ones are Miami (early, unimpressive facility), Penn (wonky track), and Jamaica (not exactly much buzz for distance races). Pretty sure Oslo is pretty close to Penn one right?
And Kerr could meet him unpaced at any European Champs.
"...A deer on ice" lol what does that even mean. Not even clever. I guess he meant something like a deer in headlights but just think the phrase he tried to create was corny.
"...A deer on ice" lol what does that even mean. Not even clever. I guess he meant something like a deer in headlights but just think the phrase he tried to create was corny.
Actually, I’m tiring of both of their antics. Long gone are the days when elite runners in the same events quietly and tactfully measured one another, at the best saying little about one another, at the worst giving a back handed compliment. These Genz Z self absorbed motormouths can’t keep their mouths shut. Get on the track and just run. Because in a few years you will be a footnote.
"...A deer on ice" lol what does that even mean. Not even clever. I guess he meant something like a deer in headlights but just think the phrase he tried to create was corny.
Actually, I’m tiring of both of their antics. Long gone are the days when elite runners in the same events quietly and tactfully measured one another, at the best saying little about one another, at the worst giving a back handed compliment. These Genz Z self absorbed motormouths can’t keep their mouths shut. Get on the track and just run. Because in a few years you will be a footnote.
Jakob Ingebrigtsen will probably still be setting world records and winning in a few years, actually.
Kerr is a 2x World Champion. How many world 1500 titles does Jakob have?
Check out the note I put below that one:
LRC note. Jakob is a 2-time world outdoor champion (2022 and 2023 5000) and a 2-time Olympic champion (2021 1500, 2024 5000). Kerr's world titles came outdoors in the 1500 in 2023 and indoors in the 3000 in 2024. So Jakob has won twice as many overall global titles as Kerr and 4 times as many if you only count outdoors.
PS.I"ll plead guilty to being a bit obsessed with Jakob gut I like both guys.
Please remember this. If it wasn't for Hocker, Kerr would have had the most baller 2024. Talked xxxx and then backed it up - WR indoors in 2 mile (equivalent to like 724 3k), world indoor gold in 3k on home soil, Prefontaine win, Olympic win in Olympic record time. He said all along he could get fit enough to outkick Jakob in a super fast Olympic final and he was right.
Kerr was pretty sensational from January through August last year - by the narrowest of margins he missed out on legendary status.
Ingebrigtsen is clearly the greater athlete based on outdoor global titles - four compared to Kerr's one. Ingebrigtsen also has six outdoor European titles - Kerr has yet to win one.
Pretty sure Kerr was eligible for all these meets. How is Kerr's gold count in the same two years?
Yes you see but Kerr didn't participate in those so they don't matter. But Grand Slam Track clown league will matter, because uhhh.... IT JUST WILL, OK?
"...A deer on ice" lol what does that even mean. Not even clever. I guess he meant something like a deer in headlights but just think the phrase he tried to create was corny.
A "deer on ice" means someone who looks completely out of their comfort zone; who is floundering. That would be a fairly accurate description of Ingebrigtsen in a competitive 800m.
Ingebrigtsen fans are getting pretty desperate. They have to go back to an earlier stage in his career to boost his competitive record, when he was still winning 1500 races. The fact is though the field - and not just Kerr - have caught up with him in his specialist distance. He may still currently have the fastest time (paced, of course) but in any big race he is getting routinely outkicked. Wightman, Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse - it won't end there. He has been beaten by Kerr three times alone in the last year and on the biggest stages - the WC, Prefontaine and the Olympics. He hasn't won a global 1500 title in years. He's in everybody's sights. He may need to focus even more on the 5k.
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On the Kerr side. Jakob knows exactly where to find him this year. Meet him at grand slam not some paced world record attempt/set up for Jakob race.
LOL. Kerr knew that Jakob would be at European XC championships in December, but was too busy posting photos with his cybertruck to join team GB and race him.
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All the coping for Jakob is insane. This is what Kerr meant by yes men surrounding jakob. The quotes were about the 800 or at least their preferred distance the 1500m. All these posts about the 5k or cross country have nothing to do with the 1500m. In the 1500 Jakob has not beaten Kerr in a final since 2022.
LOL. Kerr knew that Jakob would be at European XC championships in December, but was too busy posting photos with his cybertruck to join team GB and race him.
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All the coping for Jakob is insane. This is what Kerr meant by yes men surrounding jakob. The quotes were about the 800 or at least their preferred distance the 1500m. All these posts about the 5k or cross country have nothing to do with the 1500m. In the 1500 Jakob has not beaten Kerr in a final since 2022.
Because Kerr has been ducking finals left and right.
We are only nine days into 2025 and the Kerr-Ingebrigtsen war of words has already resumed.
On an episode of the Citius Mag Podcast that was released on Thursday, Josh Kerr offered his thoughts on Jakob Ingebrigtsen not signing up as a Racer for Grand Slam Track:
"I think it's smart that he didn't sign up, to be honest. In any non-paced race, he hasn't won in the last couple of years. And so you're going to throw him in a bunch of non-paced races? It seems silly, to do that. It's gonna expose most of his tactical stuff. And if he was in the 800-1500 group, watching him run the 800 would be a lot like a deer on ice."
The amusing thing to me is that neither of them are giving the other any credit at all. Ingebrigtsen is certainly more vulnerable in non-paced races, but he was brilliant in winning the European champs last year without rabbits -- a meet that Kerr notably skipped.
Meanwhile Kerr's first race of 2024 was a world indoor record in the 2 mile that he announced he was targeting months ahead of time. Now it helped a lot that Kerr had Grant Fisher pushing the pace up front in that race, but Kerr said he was going for the WR and got it.
Josh Kerr is absolutely so right about his take. He cares that Jakob better not sign up!! It’s not a careless remark !! He cares that Jakob’s ass is not handed over to him for a beating! However Jonathan, Kerr isn’t trash talking, we don’t call that in the UK. We call that EARNESTNESS!!
Try to use the right vocabulary in space and time please.
while as for Jakob’s reply that’s also not trash talking, it’s called VINDICTIVE in Scandinavia! Norwegians are pretty vindictive in general aside from being harsh and impolite. Jakob is not one of them and if he’s trash talking then he is doing right by Norwegian habits.
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All the coping for Jakob is insane. This is what Kerr meant by yes men surrounding jakob. The quotes were about the 800 or at least their preferred distance the 1500m. All these posts about the 5k or cross country have nothing to do with the 1500m. In the 1500 Jakob has not beaten Kerr in a final since 2022.
Because Kerr has been ducking finals left and right.
At least he isn’t ducking being the exemplary suave posterboy and best male persona of Britain isn’t it?
LOL. Kerr knew that Jakob would be at European XC championships in December, but was too busy posting photos with his cybertruck to join team GB and race him.
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All the coping for Jakob is insane. This is what Kerr meant by yes men surrounding jakob. The quotes were about the 800 or at least their preferred distance the 1500m. All these posts about the 5k or cross country have nothing to do with the 1500m. In the 1500 Jakob has not beaten Kerr in a final since 2022.
This is what I call a reasonably good assessment, fair and unbiased. If you are fair and unbiased, your conclusion needs to be that Kerr is better than Jakob today and Jakob simply can’t handle it.
"...A deer on ice" lol what does that even mean. Not even clever. I guess he meant something like a deer in headlights but just think the phrase he tried to create was corny.
A "deer on ice" means someone who looks completely out of their comfort zone; who is floundering. That would be a fairly accurate description of Ingebrigtsen in a competitive 800m.
Ingebrigtsen fans are getting pretty desperate. They have to go back to an earlier stage in his career to boost his competitive record, when he was still winning 1500 races. The fact is though the field - and not just Kerr - have caught up with him in his specialist distance. He may still currently have the fastest time (paced, of course) but in any big race he is getting routinely outkicked. Wightman, Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse - it won't end there. He has been beaten by Kerr three times alone in the last year and on the biggest stages - the WC, Prefontaine and the Olympics. He hasn't won a global 1500 title in years. He's in everybody's sights. He may need to focus even more on the 5k.
That’s as fair a comment as it can get! Thank you Armstrongluv! Truly in luv here.
People need to see that the Jakob has been weakening by the minute ever since 2022 after he got mRNA vaccine and the virus. While he had been earlier on a crescendo up till 2021 under his father, the rupture in the biolelectromagnetic field bond between father and son has caused son’s own field to lose its energy especially with the egging from the toxic fields from the vaccine and virus. Their fields are supposed to merge everywhere they go and feed on one another as healthy energetic resource but due to their breaking up Jakob is now left severely weakened!
the deception comes where people like some LRC idiots still thought to themselves that Jakob has actually gotten better after he ruptured the energetic field bond with his dad but they forgot that even stock markets look bullish for a moment after a critical event in space and time before taking a protracted plunging trend!
Armstrongluv says it all right, Jakob’s ship in the 1500m has been sinking steadily even if slowly and it will take some time to realise its full range of destruction.
The only way to save his ship from sinking is to change ship and jump to a nearby one, the 5000 WR. It’s simple, set his ego aside, listen to the savants of LRC, and execute! There is a greater chance of him getting the 5000WR than the 1500 one even if both are still excruciatingly low.
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LRC note. Jakob is a 2-time world outdoor champion (2022 and 2023 5000) and a 2-time Olympic champion (2021 1500, 2024 5000). Kerr's world titles came outdoors in the 1500 in 2023 and indoors in the 3000 in 2024. So Jakob has won twice as many overall global titles as Kerr and 4 times as many if you only count outdoors.
PS.I"ll plead guilty to being a bit obsessed with Jakob gut I like both guys.
Please remember this. If it wasn't for Hocker, Kerr would have had the most baller 2024. Talked xxxx and then backed it up - WR indoors in 2 mile (equivalent to like 724 3k), world indoor gold in 3k on home soil, Prefontaine win, Olympic win in Olympic record time. He said all along he could get fit enough to outkick Jakob in a super fast Olympic final and he was right.
Kerr was pretty sensational from January through August last year - by the narrowest of margins he missed out on legendary status.
Ingebrigtsen is clearly the greater athlete based on outdoor global titles - four compared to Kerr's one. Ingebrigtsen also has six outdoor European titles - Kerr has yet to win one.
Euros are nothing competition. It’s soft since most of Jakob’s real rivals come from the PED landlocked nation USA! Also the rest from Europe had been sick and injured and whatnot, you really thought Jakob had a deserved victory at 2024 euros? I will only count his first 1-2 Euros in 2017-2019 as legit achievements because he has immunity from being the true underdog. After that he can kiss me ass! He has to win the Olympic and world championships after that to be any real legit. And beat El G WR which he can’t 😆😆😆
This is how you conduct space-time analysis esta bien senor?
People on this forum clearly lack Physics acumen and judgment.
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