COVID is a bioweapon that originated from a Chinese lab that manufactured highly contagious diseases. COVID wasn't any more dangerous than the common cold and anyone who got a vaccine is stupid.
Still entertaining to watch antivaxers try to reconcile these two arguments.
In retrospect, the lab leak theory/likelihood justifies lockdowns, school closures, distancing, masking, etc. even if we now know that some of these strategies weren't effective and had negative impacts. Proceeding with caution is the appropriate strategy for dealing with unknown bioweapons that have been unleashed on the public.
Three cheers for the Trump administration and Congress for giving away tens of billions of taxpayer dollars to individuals/businesses making fraudulent PPP claims. That's an outcome that some people DID see coming.
Trumphumpers will believe amything that sounds like it is bad for liberals. A few COVID examples.
1: China and the US were jointly developing a bioweapon.
2. China released this bioweapon on their own citizens first in a city with a population of 30M.
3. Trump got COVID, disappeared for days, was given experimental treatments that were untested and unavailable to anyone but him, but it was no big deal.
4.Trump fast tracked the vaccine and got it himself, but it is totally unsafe and gives people autism and heart failure and isn’t even effective.
5. COVID was no worse than a cold even though the death toll in the first few months was 10s of thousands and hospitals across the country were overwhelmed with critically ill patients despite shutdowns.
The list goes on, but damn these people lack critical thinking skills.
Well, we did just put Trump in office again with an overwhelming mandate...
Timing feels about right for the deep state to screw things up again..
Yes an overwhelming mandate (1% PV margin, historically close EC margin) for more vaccines 😎if anything
Popular vote was a tick under 50%. Looks to be closer to 2% than 1%. Largest electoral victory in nearly thirty years with the exception of Obama. Battleground sweep. Obviously not a Reagan like blowout as some would like, but a clear victory and a clear turn in the tide of the public’s perception. 8 years on from tossing his hat in the ring he received nearly 23% more votes than the first time. You can like him or hate him but you should at least be honest.
BREAKING: House Subcommittee Releases Explosive Final COVID Report: Virus Likely Originated in Lab, Billions Stolen, School Closures Devastated Kids, and Public Health Failures Exposed
Lab Origins of COVID-19: The report suggests that COVID-19 likely originated from a laboratory incident, supported by intelligence and scientific evidence.
Failures in Pandemic Response: Significant fraud, waste, and abuse plagued relief programs, resulting in billions of dollars lost to mismanagement.
Gain-of-Function Research Funding: The U.S. National Institutes of Health funded controversial gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
School Closures’ Long-Term Impact: Pandemic-era school closures caused lasting harm to children’s education, mental health, and development.
Public Health Missteps: Mask mandates, vaccine passports, and lockdowns were criticized for lacking scientific basis and causing widespread distrust.
Operation Warp Speed Success: The vaccine development initiative was highlighted as a major success that saved millions of lives. MY ASIDE -- YEAH RIGHT
Misuse of Emergency Relief Funds: Programs like the Paycheck Protection Program and unemployment insurance suffered from inadequate oversight, enabling transnational fraud.
Transparency and Trust Issues: Public health officials and the administration were accused of misleading the public about the pandemic's origins and response measures.
Failures of the World Health Organization (WHO): The WHO was criticized for yielding to Chinese Communist Party pressure and failing to address the pandemic effectively.
Yes an overwhelming mandate (1% PV margin, historically close EC margin) for more vaccines 😎if anything
Popular vote was a tick under 50%. Looks to be closer to 2% than 1%. Largest electoral victory in nearly thirty years with the exception of Obama. Battleground sweep. Obviously not a Reagan like blowout as some would like, but a clear victory and a clear turn in the tide of the public’s perception. 8 years on from tossing his hat in the ring he received nearly 23% more votes than the first time. You can like him or hate him but you should at least be honest.
Today is December 14. Happy 4 years of Covid vaccines. Congratulations to those of us who resisted injecting that garbage into our bodies despite the horrible way we were treated by the vax lunatics and many otherwise reasonable people who became temporarily insane during that period of societal madness.
The zero-dose unvaccinated are the heroes of the 21st Century. A shining example of humanity at its best: intelligent, proud, resolute, steadfast and strong !
WHOOPSIE: A new study has confirmed that COVID shots for kids are making the problem WORSE.
Children who got the COVID shots were found to be 159% MORE likely to catch COVID and 257% MORE likely to have symptoms compared to kids who didn’t get the shots.
BREAKING: House Subcommittee Releases Explosive Final COVID Report: Virus Likely Originated in Lab, Billions Stolen, School Closures Devastated Kids, and Public Health Failures Exposed
Lab Origins of COVID-19: The report suggests that COVID-19 likely originated from a laboratory incident, supported by intelligence and scientific evidence.
Failures in Pandemic Response: Significant fraud, waste, and abuse plagued relief programs, resulting in billions of dollars lost to mismanagement.
Gain-of-Function Research Funding: The U.S. National Institutes of Health funded controversial gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
School Closures’ Long-Term Impact: Pandemic-era school closures caused lasting harm to children’s education, mental health, and development.
Public Health Missteps: Mask mandates, vaccine passports, and lockdowns were criticized for lacking scientific basis and causing widespread distrust.
Operation Warp Speed Success: The vaccine development initiative was highlighted as a major success that saved millions of lives. MY ASIDE -- YEAH RIGHT
Misuse of Emergency Relief Funds: Programs like the Paycheck Protection Program and unemployment insurance suffered from inadequate oversight, enabling transnational fraud.
Transparency and Trust Issues: Public health officials and the administration were accused of misleading the public about the pandemic's origins and response measures.
Failures of the World Health Organization (WHO): The WHO was criticized for yielding to Chinese Communist Party pressure and failing to address the pandemic effectively.
Devestating for whom? Much of this looks like a damning indictment of the failed and incompetent and delayed initial response of the Trump Administration, losing valuable time.
Two things to keep in mind:
1) A subcommittee composed of politicians are not qualified to answer some of these questions, like "likely origin", nor decide a dispute among competing scientists.
2) The initial responsibility for the COVID response was under the Trump Adminstration, and some of the failures that occurred then were difficult to undo, and will be difficult for decades to come.
Regarding the likely origins, this question cannot be settled as the evidence is lacking. The primary argument against the lab leak is that the Chinese lab wasn't working with any virus closely resembling the SARS-Cov-2 virus. All of the hypotheses regarding the origin (evolution in bats, in intermediate animals, in humans, or in the lab) require more evidence to prove or disprove before deciding one option is "likely". It took 14 years to decide the origin of the SARS 2003 virus.
The failure in pandemic response is a damning indictment of the lack of leadership and competence of the Trump Administration, and unqualified appointees like Jared Kushner, unable to communicate a scientifically coherent message to the people, or organize competent responses, and generally failing to take control of the response.
Regarding gain of function research, it is still debatable whether the research conducted qualifies as gain of function prohibited by the US government, but more importantly, there is still no evidence that the research conducted in Wuhan was on PPP, or that the Wuhan lab possessed any virus that could have become the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
Regarding school closures, other countries without so much mixed messaging seemed to have managed it better than in the US. These closures could have been reduced with better messaging, and higher mask and social distancing compliance.
Initial scientific recommendations, e.g. mask wearing and social distancing, were indeed initially not based on COVID-19 science, but on previous experiences from other viruses, until better scientific data was available. The goal was never to prevent the spread, but to reduce the spread and slow the growth, as measured by the "r-factor".
Regarding Operation Warp Speed, this seems to be the one positive thing that Trump could take credit for, but that is the one thing you doubt. It's also contradictory that the Committee acknowledged that Operation Warp Speed was universally considered a good thing, but then criticized the Biden Administration for aggressively approving and distributing the vaccines.
Regarding misuse of funds for emergency relief and paycheck protection -- this lack of oversight and competence are repeated features of the Trump Administration, who seem to have other agendas.
Establishing transparency and trust fell squarely on the Trump Adminstration, and doubt was sowed when Trump started highlighting unproven alternatives like injecting disinfectants, or light radiation, or promoting hydroxychloriquine, and giving voices to anti-vaxxers. Once the seeds of distrust were sown within the public, it would not, and will not, be easy to regain the trust. It will probably take decades and costs lots of lives (especially as we put people like RFK Jr. in charge of resurrecting childhood measles and polio).
The WHO was singled out for not holding the CCP to account, but the Committee acknowledged that the WHO doesn't really have any enforcement power, and relies on cooperation from all members. The WHO was a victim of the CCP's restrictions and restricted access to data, just like the rest of the world. It's unfortunate that scientists' hands are routinely tied by politicians.
There are many areas of valid criticisms for a world that was not prepared for such a highly contagious and fatal pandemic, and the obstruction caused by world and national politics, and other agendas. But we need to stop following politicians -- especially the ones who point fingers at others for their own failures and inaction -- and start encouraging collecting and sharing the data and following the data, and being prepared to change the direction when new data comes (rather than accusing officials of lying when facts evolve), and understand that even among scientists, there will be differing opinions about how to interpret the data, and what to prioritize when preparing a response.
"Children who got the COVID shots were found to be 159% MORE likely to catch COVID and 257% MORE likely to have symptoms compared to kids who didn’t get the shots."
Talk about cherry-picking.
The summary of the paper wasn't so damning:
"Summary: Children younger than 5 years with prior infection had lower risk of SARS-CoV-2 compared to those without. There was no difference in incidence by vaccination status. While COVID-19 vaccines reduce severe disease, they may not reduce overall SARS-CoV-2 infections in young children."
Looking at Table 2, it looks like factors that make it worse are: 1) Moderna appears to be better than Pfizer for those who have never had COVID (but worse for those with prior infections); 2) Whether the Pfizer vaccinations were the "original" non-Omicron vaccine rather than the "bivalent" Omicron developed vaccine ; and 3) if the vaccination was greater than 60 days.
The best combination of protection seems to be a combination of Pfizer and prior infection.
COVID is a bioweapon that originated from a Chinese lab that manufactured highly contagious diseases. COVID wasn't any more dangerous than the common cold and anyone who got a vaccine is stupid.
Still entertaining to watch antivaxers try to reconcile these two arguments.
In retrospect, the lab leak theory/likelihood justifies lockdowns, school closures, distancing, masking, etc. even if we now know that some of these strategies weren't effective and had negative impacts. Proceeding with caution is the appropriate strategy for dealing with unknown bioweapons that have been unleashed on the public.
Three cheers for the Trump administration and Congress for giving away tens of billions of taxpayer dollars to individuals/businesses making fraudulent PPP claims. That's an outcome that some people DID see coming.
Trumphumpers will believe amything that sounds like it is bad for liberals. A few COVID examples.
1: China and the US were jointly developing a bioweapon.
2. China released this bioweapon on their own citizens first in a city with a population of 30M.
3. Trump got COVID, disappeared for days, was given experimental treatments that were untested and unavailable to anyone but him, but it was no big deal.
4.Trump fast tracked the vaccine and got it himself, but it is totally unsafe and gives people autism and heart failure and isn’t even effective.
5. COVID was no worse than a cold even though the death toll in the first few months was 10s of thousands and hospitals across the country were overwhelmed with critically ill patients despite shutdowns.
The list goes on, but damn these people lack critical thinking skills.
Wow.
A report comes out of our govt acknowledging that the Covid response was a disaster and you guys respond "Trump, Trump, Trump, and more Trump".
"Children who got the COVID shots were found to be 159% MORE likely to catch COVID and 257% MORE likely to have symptoms compared to kids who didn’t get the shots."
"Children who got the COVID shots were found to be 159% MORE likely to catch COVID and 257% MORE likely to have symptoms compared to kids who didn’t get the shots."
Talk about cherry-picking.
Cherry picking?
Jesus H
"The major limitation of this study was the lack of sample size ..."
"Other limitations of this study, most notably, the potential for missed prior infection detections ..."
"CONCLUSIONS
Despite the limitations, data from this community cohort of young children with any SARS-CoV-2 infections and symptomatic COVID-19 disease contribute to understanding protection from vaccination and prior infection. COVID-19 vaccines are recommended to reduce severe illness; the overall risk of infection may not differ substantially between vaccinated and unvaccinated naïve children less than 5 years."
Norwegians who got COVID vaccines had lower death odds.
Not just from COVID!
From all-cause mortality in general. Two YEARS post-vaccination, vaccinated people were about 30% (!!!) less likely to have died. pic.twitter.com/EjO6WxyLVz