That husband— no other way to say it. He’s a freaking pathetic wimp with no dignity and feels no shame.
He is protecting the paycheck because he doesn't work, he is her coach. Without her earnings they have no income. Guess Conor will need to find gainful employment in the not to distant future!
I think it would have been more helpful for me and anyone else who may still have some blinders on to have included more athlete quotes in the article or at least elaborate on the quote from Cherns. For example, the "pattern of interference" and "history of trying to disrupt athletes."
That is the real issue, not editing Wikipedia.
Although in Swedish (Google Translate does a good job), I wrote a summary of this case and some of the others where Camille/Conor have been involved at
Camille Herron är en av världens främsta ultralöpare. Nu har hon och hennes make och tränare, Conor Holt, hamnat i ett rejält blåsväder. Anledningen är att det har uppdagats att de har manipulerat Wikipedia-artiklar, för att...
I don't agree with this. It seems she has wronged people in other ways than editing wiki pages. I think definitely the athletes that she tries to prevent from having their records be ratified care. She should definitely not get a pass for her behavior regardless of how immature and stupid editing wiki pages is.
To clarify, did Herron ever successfully lobby to have someone's record actually nullified? Did any records ever get stricken? Or is it just something she always tried in vain to lobby for?
The accomplished distance runner, alongside her coach, had allegedly removed accolades from other runners’ Wikipedia pages while amplifying those on her own
I think it is "a given" that both of them will be monitoring LR threads and all of the major running sites - Camille's ego will not allow her to stay away. It is interesting to me that Conor replied to LR to release their statement. Did he think he was going to get a more positive response from us? Everything they do is just making the whole situation worse and ignoring Runner's World is not a good move.
I think it is "a given" that both of them will be monitoring LR threads and all of the major running sites - Camille's ego will not allow her to stay away. It is interesting to me that Conor replied to LR to release their statement. Did he think he was going to get a more positive response from us? Everything they do is just making the whole situation worse and ignoring Runner's World is not a good move.
Ok, well it’s always good to hear both sides and as is often the case the truth appears to be in the middle.
Probably some mean wiki edits but also lots of bullying towards Camille prior to this which is also wrong. Everyone can now move on since it has been cleared up.
Good luck in your next race Camille, I had not heard of you before today but I am now a new fan and I hope you show those bullies.
I bet you all a shiny nickel that Conor is working his burner account magic on this thread as we speak.
This should put any question regarding her alleged guilt in this matter to rest. Making mistakes is only human, it is good that he admits his mistake and takes responsibility so they can continue their focus on her sports endeavors. Which by the way should not be allowed to be besmudged by this unfortunate, but in reality inconsequential matter.
It is alleged that she is innocent, not proven. And I doubt you would get a lot of support for the notion that the corrections to other runner's pages are "inconsequential".
Man. You can tell Team Herron is trying to play this off as no big deal but this kind of petty nonsense is likely to stick with her the rest of her career. Just trying to imagine other industries having this scandal: the CEO of Ford editing the Chevrolet wiki page to include every negative article ever written about a Chevy model? A politician editing their rivals' early life section to include references to some petty vandalism charge from when they were 14?
Though it does get at the fact that Wikipedia, while still highly trustworthy for most topics, is not PERFECTLY trustworthy. I've personally been avoiding it when trying to read up on any issue or person that is even remotely controversial, since as this story also shows, there are interested parties with motivation to write the articles a certain way or edit/add/remove material to better present their version of reality.
I had no idea people give a rats ass about ultra running in this site, who knew & why? Seriously has this site now become a high school message board & Ultra running site. Let's run...
Both of these are more interesting than watching a bunch of anonymous East Africans running laps around a track.
Kinda crazy that these narcissists think she is the "GOAT". She has won a few mid level races a while back. Now she attempts obscure distances/records that nobody gives a sh** about and thinks she is a GOAT? Boy that ego is really inflated.
This FKF/obscure record chasing nonsense is for hobby joggers who can't cut it on the race circuit anymore (or never could).
Given the number of posts in this and a related thread, quite a few posters care. Some are ultra fans, some are sticklers for ethics and fairness, and some of us just like a good scandal.
Kinda crazy that these narcissists think she is the "GOAT". She has won a few mid level races a while back. Now she attempts obscure distances/records that nobody gives a sh** about and thinks she is a GOAT? Boy that ego is really inflated.
This FKF/obscure record chasing nonsense is for hobby joggers who can't cut it on the race circuit anymore (or never could).
Yeah, you really gotta feel for Camille's competitors. Even if they manage to beat her or beat one of her records, it's not over yet. Within hours they'd better start monitoring their Wikipedia page to make sure Camille/Conor hasn't edited away their accomplishment...along with any complimentary descriptions on their page like "highly-regarded", "one of the top ultramarathoners", etc.
