Someone should petition Monaco race organizers to add Bryce and Sedjati to the men's 800m! With the two added, we will get at least 90% of the likely outcome at the Olympics! Had Marco Arop been in Paris, the final results would have read very different! Arop's presence changes everything! And I am not suggesting he would win. His presence in the race alters race tactics from his competitors!
We merged three threads into 1 but kept the title of the thread started by site co-founder Robert Johnson as he has dicatorial powers here.
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ha ha ha wrote:
OptionalUnlessRegistered wrote:
It's an Olympic year. Athletes taking more risks in terms of drugs/training.
I'm going to suspend my belief in some of these...
Eg. Azedinne Habz, PR at age 27: 1:49, 3:38. Age 30 runs 1:43.7.
I bet if he were a white American you'd be singing a different song. Funny how that works.
White anybody.
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Bat out of hell wrote:
This is proof the 800m is usually ran too conservatively.
And that is true of one event after another. I love it on the swimming site when the nitwits try to knock me for emphasizing the benefit of taking it out fast
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Bat out of hell wrote:
This is proof the 800m is usually ran too conservatively.
And/Or how much you loose in a tight pack - noone was really hindered and/or have to hold back adjusting cadence to others today.
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was that fake wrote:
...his build is weird for an 800 runner...
Not really an argument. Remember that Alfred Kirwa Yego the world champion in 2007 was thin and a head shorter than his competitors. Friend used to say he look like he was two lower ribs short but maybe that gave more rooms for his lungs to expand.
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Future asterisk.
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Bryce will not medal at the Olympics
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How can you compare a one-off race to a Championship rounds race?
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give up the shoe stuff & altitude stuff boomers wrote:
Burly Bartttt wrote:
The problem is the shoes.
Shoes have been around for ages now.
So why only now are we seeing a race on par with 2012 OG games?
The improvement in technology is better than shoes. It always has been.
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long gone wrote:
ha ha ha wrote:
I bet if he were a white American you'd be singing a different song. Funny how that works.
White anybody.
Exactly how many hundreds of doping busts out of Africa, and literally dozens of busts in Europe of North African descent runners, will it take before you stop using the race card?
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To the guy that said they have only six cases and they are not the Mexic.
Look at the difference between Morocco and Algerian tests and the transparency in this table.
13 millions tests vs 230.000 tests revealed
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You Edomites never change.
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Spot the JIDF wrote:
You Edomites never change.
I believe Hoppel will be in Monaco...The field is or was 9 with ai Presume the pacer, it could take one more...
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Bat out of hell wrote:
This is proof the 800m is usually ran too conservatively.
In essence yes, but I think more specifically it's about that first 250. When enough of them go out hard it leaves more space for everyone to run with less pace disruption, and as a result the field just needs to run faster to compete. The 800 is going to remain a distance for racers. I don't think they are generally afraid to go out hard, but only a few of them think it helps them win in the end. Unless someone is specifically going for a 1:41 at the Olympics we are not going to see fast times and medals are for the taking.
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king999 wrote:
Spot the JIDF wrote:
You Edomites never change.
I believe Hoppel will be in Monaco...The field is or was 9 with ai Presume the pacer, it could take one more...
Monaco will be another great race. Wanyoni is going to run the same way. Will they be recovered enough to run quick again? I think so.
If fully recovered and conditions are right Wanyoni can run close to 1:41 flat if he paces the 1st lap a bit slower.
This will be a great experience for Arop and he needs to go with the leaders no matter what happens....
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OptionalUnlessRegistered wrote:
It's an Olympic year. Athletes taking more risks in terms of drugs/training.
I'm going to suspend my belief in some of these...
Eg. Azedinne Habz, PR at age 27: 1:49, 3:38. Age 30 runs 1:43.7.
Habz started running at age 24, so his progression can make sens.
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No man is limited, I tell you, horizon is much higher and further back than we think
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Anyone know where I can find their splits?
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Bob Sack wrote:
Here we go again wrote:
Tual drops almost 2.5 sec off his pb. Seems legit.
French athletes have clearly been given the green light to dope in an Olympics they are hosting. Same thing happened with the UK in the London Olympics. Jessica Ennis heptathlon gold? One of the most doped up performances ever.
And Kelly Holmes LOL
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