Yeah because Flilip And Henrik are equal to Jakob. What about Niels laros older brother? Or Jim Ryun's kids? Lets be real genetics are a fascinating thing where they are different.
That's the explanation offered for every stand-out achievement. It makes you wonder why so many other runners don't follow that simple formula for "good living". As for 25mpw - what can I say? Bannister would be impressed. Is there an arc trainer in there somewhere?
Because he is genetically a beast. I have been curious for a while when parents will use gene doping for advantage. If you do it when they are young it is literally impossible to know without the reciepts.
Of course. "Genetics" is always the explanation. But they are becoming a commonplace in the sport.
14 1:51.23 Brandon Miller USA 30 Jan 02 Humble TX 3 Aug 16
15 1:47.50 Max Burgin GBR 20 May 02 Manchester 12 May 18
16 1:47.27 Krzysztof Różnicki POL 29 Aug 03 Sopot 3 Jul 20
17 1:44.51 Krzysztof Różnicki POL 29 Aug 03 Chorzów 20 Jun 21
18 1:44.14 Max Burgin GBR 20 May 02 Ostrava, CZE 19 May 21
19 1:43.55 Donavan Brazier USA 15 Apr 97 Eugene OR 10 Jun 16
Kitum ran 1:42 at 17 and Amos ran 1:41 at 19 so these are definitely not accurate records. Maybe the non-African records. Kaki also 1:42 at 18. Kosencha 1:44 at 16...I could keep going but you get the picture.
That’s OK since the Africans are renowned age-cheats, Kiptum and Amos being prime examples.
Freshmen are age 14, nearly 15 ... he'll be 18, nearly 19 as a "senior". He was held back a year. Age group record, yes. Class record no.
There has to be some way to stop parents from abusing their kids and holding them back in the hope they get an athletic advantage. My suggestion is to force the athlete to compete as a member of the appropriate class group, in his case as a Sophomore. As 18-year-old 12th grader he cannot compete for his school. He could run in adult events without penalty, but no longer setting HS records.
Do not refer to a 15-year old as a "MF." What is wrong with you and letsrun.com??? The OP should be banned for life.
Well, the Brojos think making baseless doping accusations against 15 year old children is perfectly fine, so I doubt if they have any problems with that.
Crazy to think this thread already shows up on the first page of Google results for a child's name and it doesn't concern the Brojos or their virtuous moderators what is said in it. Surely it's only a matter of time before they get sued by a young athlete's parents?
Relax. That term doesn't mean what you think it means.
Take a chill pill (of course I don't mean you should physically swallow a pill)
1:47.58 to win the boys 800 at Brooks PR. Came back from a 20 meter gap with 200 to go and dominated that last 150. Really impressed with his pacing and racing tactics for being a freshman.
What is the world record for 15 year olds? The HS record is going down.
Have to wonder what kind of mile time he could run with 1:47 800 speed.
Not hard to order PEDS in middle school or highschool. I remember back in the day (I graduated hs I 2013) kids were already trying different Gear. Considering the old records and new drugs 147 is whatever
Never include any Africans in any age group records
they are ALL age cheats
every
single
one
Africans? Don’t mention their “highschool” times which everyone jsut knows as “African times” generally
it would bother the slow Americans on this thread that think 147 is a big deal lol. I’m African that is basically the time required to get to the well tk retrieve the water
Americans are weak and slow. They have “highschool times” lol
in Ethiopia they just break world records, they dont need to categorize into meaningless age groups aka the downfall of the western sport.
1:47.58 to win the boys 800 at Brooks PR. Came back from a 20 meter gap with 200 to go and dominated that last 150. Really impressed with his pacing and racing tactics for being a freshman.
What is the world record for 15 year olds? The HS record is going down.
Have to wonder what kind of mile time he could run with 1:47 800 speed.
Morally speaking…..You shouldn’t want any highschool kids to run that fast with that much intensity, because you know that if everyone else does that too, eventually it becomes a real pressure on the athlete and they eventually go to steroid usage. In a moral world, it would be illegal to speak about or sponsor the sports of children aka anyone under 18. America
I figured a Kenyan would have ran 1:45-1:46 at 15. I hope Lutkenhaus qualifies for the OTs with this performance - I’m sure the pros could pull him to a 1:46.xx
Sure but the "15 year old" Kenyans might have been born in 2000 and ran it in 2017. Lets be real I got no problem with Kenya(lie) but the ages they have cant be trusted as correct. Getting the birthday just is not important for a family trying to get food on the table every day.
I’m drunk and this guy seems like an idiot so think about it.
1. Kenyans as adults are wayyy faster than white Americans as adukts
2. so why TF would not a Kenyan teenager also be wayyyuyy faster than an American of equal age…
3. Americans EGO lol that’s why.
you seriously just like ohhh I don’t veeliev Kenyan ages, you probably would just say steroids if they could prove age. Terrible. You just are baseline discriminating lol. If they prove age, and no drugs, you’d say something else….basic. I’m bored.
kenyans are faster older….so even I drunk can assume they are faster younge too. Aka the American 1:47 boy is still slower than many Africans in my mind. Americans in my mind purposely ignore 10 Africans highschool era to every 1 American. So probably 10 Africans tan this time, and this 1 American does and everyone goes crazy…..lol it’s true and you know it.
No. There have only been like 50 threads about his DNFing this year.
Why TF does the title say “9th grader” that’s dumb. Age only matters. Lmao dumb. Next…
mohammed aman at 17 tan 1:43.37 this kid is slow for 15….needs to catch up. He will peak at like 146 in Hs get injured and suck for the rest of his life. I pray to gos cuz it’s true. Goodnight idiots
Lol. Aman’s coach said he believed Aman was 24 even though he claimed to be 17 ar that time. Considering Aman’s career trajectory, he likely was 24 when he ran that 1:43.
I'm not surprised he looks mature for his age. After all, he has run a 47.3 for 400 meters. That doesn't mean that he can't continue to improve.
Steve Ovett was very physically mature for his age (huge contrast between him and Coe at around 16) and he worked out OK.
Yet this 15 year old is as fast as Ovett was at 17, when he was the fastest in the world at that age. So when will we see a 14 year old, or a 13 year old, run as fast?
We are increasingly seeing teenagers running times that were once only considered possible for athletes in their prime. I remember the rise of Jim Ryun, who started running world class times at 17 and 18, and setting world records at 19. He was, however physically mature in his late teens and he never ran any faster than when he was 20.
But now we are seeing runners in their mid teens running world class times - and what is even harder to get your head around is that they are doing it on unexceptional training, that wouldn't have been out of place in the '40's or '50's. 25-30 mpw, or 50mpw - and so on. It is a very recent phenomenon, in the last few years, and raises the question why didn't we see this earlier in the sport when there is no apparent magic formula that explains it?
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