Transgender athlete complains about lack of sportsmanship from fellow runners after winning girls state title

chuckle wrote:

7eyeussy wrote:

I'm not surprised. Women are really crappy a out trans women, who belong in women's sports, competing. If a trans man beats me I have no problem congratulating them. I'd be surprised if one or two haven't at this point.

I don't get butt hurt because they pushed me down a place.

The way transphobe math works is that a single transwoman is responsible for pushing down not just one cis woman but everyone behind her as well even though the others were already behind whoever they were behind. 😅

Another bit of funny transphobe math is to cry that xyz transwoman would be ranked 452nd among boys but is ranked second among girls even though even the top ranked cis woman would also rank pretty poorly among boys; so all it says is that the trans doesn’t look that different from the cis girl.

RunRagged wrote:

christopher2 wrote:

A transgender athlete has voiced concerns about the lack of sportsmanship exhibited by fellow runners after securing a victory in a girls' state title race. The athlete, who has been the focus of intense scrutiny and debate, expressed disappointment over the cold reception and absence of congratulations from competitors. This incident underscores the broader challenges faced by transgender athletes in sports, highlighting not only the ongoing controversy surrounding their participation but also the need for fostering a more inclusive and respectful environment in competitive athletics.

That's how you see this situation. From my perspective, this is a more accurate description:

A 16-year-old male athlete who claims to have a trans gender identity has voiced annoyance about what he complains was the lack of "sportsmanship" exhibited by the female runners he trounced when he won a girls' Washington state championship race recently. The male athlete, who has been the focus of intense scrutiny and debate, expressed disappointment over the cold reception and absence of congratulations he got from the female competitors he beat when he climbed to the top place on the podium to lord it over them during the awards ceremony after the race.

As the male athlete walked to his place on top of the podium, he'd expected the female athletes he'd bested on the track to greet him with a shower of kisses, hugs, high-fives and delighted cheers of "Yaass queen!" and "You go gurl!" After all, as a male athlete who'd just succeeded at getting away with using questionable identity claims to win a girls' state championship and show a bunch of "cis girls" who's boss, he felt that kind of fawning was his due. So he was sorely put out to find that instead of paying him homage, the female athletes stood with their hands behind their backs in stony-faced silence as he ascended to his rightful place above them on the podium.

This incident underscores the broad (see what I did there?) challenges faced by the growing numbers of self-centered, attention-seeking male athletes who are using claims of having a trans gender identity to muscle in on girls' and women's sports so they can obtain easy wins and show the world how "girly" they are by engaging in a new kind of male dominance display, then turning around and cattily kvetching that any girl who isn't graceful about being put in her place in sports competition by a male is a bad sport, crybaby, bigot and transphobe. The whole sorry spectacle illustrates not only the ongoing controversy over male athletes being allowed to use flimsy identity claims to compete in the wrong sex category, it also highlights the need for males who claim to have a trans gender identity to stop acting like arrogant, entitled conquistadors and greedy, grabby colonizers and begin to show a modicum of respect for the female athletes whose rights to fair play they insist on trampling on in their quest for more male privilege and personal gold and glory.

Im Not Following wrote:

Transgenderism is an expression of liberalism, which is left wing. It represents a liberation from the shackles of all convention, now reaching sex/gender. The liberals believe that there is a difference between soul and body and your true self, as represented by your soul, should be free to pursue whatever endeavors in life it wishes. As such, we should not be confined by things like your sex, religion, nationality, family, race, etc.. All of your immutable characteristics are portrayed as obstacles in your soul achieving its true self.

This is obviously deeply incorrect. We are not just souls floating in the ether, we are also our bodies. We are both soul and body, inseparably intertwined. As such, our body, our immutable characteristics are important elements of our true selves. Our bodies should be respected and worshipped in a similar way that we think of our soul.

If you do not believe me, take a look at how the lives of these people who believe strongly in this liberal ideal (of emancipation from the body) destroy themselves, first through a disregard and destruction of their bodily health, which also destroys their mental health.

We see transgenderism and a general identity crisis because we have placed too much belief in liberalism. A path out of this would require us to embrace immutable characteristics and reject a soul/body dichotomy.

GD wrote:

Yes, the idea that human beings can treat their bodies as raw material in order to align the body with the soul is an extreme expression of mind over matter. It's hyper liberal.

It might go without saying, but probably does not, that there is a distinction between liberalism and leftist politics. We use liberal and left interchangeably in the United States. Trans can be viewed through a liberal or leftist lens. Liberal stresses individual autonomy, self-expression, and mind over matter dualism. Leftism focuses on liberation from oppression, particularly liberation from allegedly oppressive social structures. Some forms of leftism are anti-liberal.

In terms of Democrat versus Republican support: I know that a lot of Democrats oppose trans girls/women in female sporting categories, but the Democrat party continually supports such policies. I never in my life thought I'd side with Ted Cruz in any argument, but he and other Republicans are among the few members of Congress who openly oppose things like housing male rapists in women's prisons. People concerned about women's rights and poor people are hard-pressed to pick a party these days.

National healthcare (Democrats)

Border control, which affects low wage workers most (Republican)

Birth control and elective abortion for at least 12 weeks (Democrat)

Females and males exist and have some distinct needs and rights (Republican)

Due process (Republican)

Free speech (mostly Republican)

christopher2 wrote:

RunRagged wrote:

There has been plenty of pushback in CT. But all the powers that be in Connecticut that have sway in this matter - CIAC, the state department of education, the governor's office and administration, the state human rights commission, the school boards, principals and coaches at schools where boys have been allowed to compete on girls' teams - have dug their heels in whilst the Title IX lawsuit brought by female athletes back in 2020 slowly makes it way through the courts.

Moreover, most Democratic state legislators and the entire delegation of CT pols in the US House of Representatives and US Senate (all Democrats) have turned a deaf ear to those of us seeking to return fairness to the rules governing girls' school sports in CT, and to insuring that girls going to school in the state can count on having privacy and safety away from boys in locker rooms, toilets and overnight accommodations on school trips.

The Biden White House, the rest of the Biden administration - especially the US Department of Education, US Department of Justice and HHS under Biden - are similarly against us.

This past legislative session, Democrats in the state legislature proposed an amendment to the state constitution to include strong protections for "gender identity rights" and "reproductive rights." The amendment did this in a cynical way that made securing state consititutional protection of women's and girls' access to reproductive health care, including contraception and abortion, in CT contingent upon creating constitutional protections for both sexes and all ages to have unfettered access to "gender affirming" body modifications - and for males in particular to be able to use gender identity claims to compete in female sports and use spaces/facilities meant for females.

More than 220 people from all across the political spectrum showed up to testify when the CT legislature held a public hearing on the amendment in March. Out of that huge number, only five people testified in support of the amendment - all of them high-placed, well-paid executives of the following political lobbying organizations:

Equality Connecticut; American Civil Liberties Union of Connecticut (ACLU-CT); Reproductive Equity Now; Planned Parenthood of Southern New England; GLAD: GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders about how old is grace charis (this is the new name of the org that used to be GLAAD: The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation)

A transgender athlete has voiced concerns about the lack of sportsmanship exhibited by fellow runners after securing a victory in a girls' state title race. The athlete, who has been the focus of intense scrutiny and debate, expressed disappointment over the cold reception and absence of congratulations from competitors. This incident underscores the broader challenges faced by transgender athletes in sports, highlighting not only the ongoing controversy surrounding their participation but also the need for fostering a more inclusive and respectful environment in competitive athletics.

GD wrote:

Im Not Following wrote:

Transgenderism is an expression of liberalism, which is left wing. It represents a liberation from the shackles of all convention, now reaching sex/gender. The liberals believe that there is a difference between soul and body and your true self, as represented by your soul, should be free to pursue whatever endeavors in life it wishes. As such, we should not be confined by things like your sex, religion, nationality, family, race, etc.. All of your immutable characteristics are portrayed as obstacles in your soul achieving its true self.

This is obviously deeply incorrect. We are not just souls floating in the ether, we are also our bodies. We are both soul and body, inseparably intertwined. As such, our body, our immutable characteristics are important elements of our true selves. Our bodies should be respected and worshipped in a similar way that we think of our soul.

If you do not believe me, take a look at how the lives of these people who believe strongly in this liberal ideal (of emancipation from the body) destroy themselves, first through a disregard and destruction of their bodily health, which also destroys their mental health.

We see transgenderism and a general identity crisis because we have placed too much belief in liberalism. A path out of this would require us to embrace immutable characteristics and reject a soul/body dichotomy.

Yes, the idea that human beings can treat their bodies as raw material in order to align the body with the soul is an extreme expression of mind over matter. It's hyper liberal.

It might go without saying, but probably does not, that there is a distinction between liberalism and leftist politics. We use liberal and left interchangeably in the United States. Trans can be viewed through a liberal or leftist lens. Liberal stresses individual autonomy, self-expression, and mind over matter dualism. Leftism focuses on liberation from oppression, particularly liberation from allegedly oppressive social structures. Some forms of leftism are anti-liberal.

In terms of Democrat versus Republican support: I know that a lot of Democrats oppose trans girls/women in female sporting categories, but the Democrat party continually supports such policies. I never in my life thought I'd side with Ted Cruz in any argument, but he and other Republicans are among the few members of Congress who openly oppose things like housing male rapists in women's prisons. People concerned about women's rights and poor people are hard-pressed to pick a party these days.

National healthcare (Democrats)

Border control, which affects low wage workers most (Republican)

Birth control and elective abortion for at least 12 weeks (Democrat)

Females and males exist and have some distinct needs and rights (Republican)

Due process (Republican)

Free speech (mostly Republican)