Is Alberto Salazar update?

Taro.... if you have to cite wiki, you admit that you lost the argument.

E.g., SafeSport decided on the ban after a long investigation, and then it was confirmed in arbitration.

Taro.... if you have to cite wiki, you admit that you lost the argument.

So point me to a transcript of the SafeSport deliberations in the Salazar case, which you've apparently read.

And tell me what's incorrect in that Wiki passage I quoted.

Comparing Alberto Salazar to Emmett Till.

False. Mentioning Emmett Till as the most notorious example of the fact that women have falsely accused men of unwanted sexual behavior in the past. Obviously, that's all Salazar could have in common with Emmett Till.

Other notorious examples: Crystal Mangum and the Duke lacrosse team (false rape accusation), Jackie Coakley at the University of Virginia (false rape accusation) , nado, nado.

Using "bipartisan Congress-generated institution" in a way meant to convey enhanced credibility is comical.

"She had nothing to gain from getting groped" I heard The Longest Race is just a prop that B&N puts in there stores-- they don't actually try to sell it or anything

Where were the GOAT's peers in his criminal proceeding?

Oh! You meant to say that Al Sal is rightly considered innocent (and thus Kara guilty of lying), since he (still) hasn't been convicted of a jury of his peers!

Actually curious what this guy is doing now

What do you think he’s doing ? He’s retired and living his life. He was one of the greatest distance coaches ever

Sure, everyone is living their life, but he would be much happier if was still coaching, and if his reputation hadn’t been severely blemished.

You say his reputation was severely blemished, like it wasn't his own fault. There is no one single human being responsible for his blemished reputation other than himself. This is a basic lesson we try to teach our middle schoolers all the time: you alone are responsible for your actions.

Why???? He's 66 years old and does not need to coach and has moved on. He's happy

Alberto is currently in a better place than Ms Goucher.

Alberto is quietly enjoying retirement with his wife and has no need to ever answer to anyone again.

Kara is continually having to try to make herself relevant in order to pay the bills. Kara spends every day in her professional life knowing that there are a large number of people that don’t believe her and she has to face those doubters because she remains in the industry.

I'd like to see Salazar write an extremely detailed book describing the training methods he used for Galen Rupp, Mo Farah, Hassan, and Goucher. A "here's how to develop an athlete from walking off the soccer field as a kid to multiple Olympic medals as an adult" and "how to take a mostly unknown pro and turn him into one of the most decorated Olympians of all time".

Skeptics will say it's all about the dope. But there are tons of people on dope who never make it to those levels. So even if they were on dope, their training program was far better than anyone else in the sport. With Salazar's hyper obsession you know they had optimized technique work, optimized diets, optimized speed development, optimized weight training, optimized recovery, etc. No stone went unturned in NOP.

Leaving aside the controversies that Alberto was involved in, there is huge value in such a book. Rupp is perhaps the only elite athlete in the last 50 years who was coached by the same person from childhood all the way to the top. How he was brought up from the beginning level season by season would be valuable to know from a development perspective.

Even Salazar's haters have to admit that the book would be gold. It doesn't matter if you think they doped; as we know from constant doping busts, there are a lot of pros who dope. Salazar turned Rupp into a medalist, Farah into a multiple gold medalist, and Hassan into one of the greatest female runners of all time. He even got Kara a medal and Mary Cain a U20 world championship. All of the rest of the world's dopers combined haven't accomplished that.

Even though he's banned from the sport, I don't think he can be banned from writing a book. I'd certainly be interested in reading it.

To my knowledge he's never really done the podcast rounds either. That would be a great place for him to get on and talk shop. I imagine it would come with the stipulation of not bringing up x, y, or z, but of the things on the table his methods and some behind the scenes stuff would be really interesting. Even if a big figure like Joe Rogan or someone with a big platform but not technically running focused did it. Rogan and some of these big podcasters set it up more like a "conversation" than an interview. I'd listen to it.

Actually, I didn’t don’t say that all. I was responding to the poster’s believe that Salazar is enjoying life and I believe he probably isn’t.

We teach these things to middle schoolers and not to elementary or high school kids? That’s a tight window to teach about responsibility.

I hate to break it to you, but he’s perceived by many to be a bad guy. It’s no different than thinking a book by Houlihan would be a big seller and/or fascinating.

In regard to your 4th paragraph, there have been others that have coached Olympic and WC medal winners.

All of the stuff regarding skirting rules over the years would be especially insightful.

Salazar was the king of efficiency and marginal gains. He correctly understood the state of the sport in the early 2000's- in particular, the 5 and 10k and how they were raced at the championship level, and worked really hard at making sure his athletes were the strongest and fastest (ie closing speed) they could be while at their absolute leanest. Runners weren't really Olympic lifting back then, and if they were, it was super light. Now, was he giving them something that allowed them to be that lean while that strong? Perhaps. Mo's the guy everyone accuses of doping, but he was notoriously weak, lazy, and inefficient, and Salazar deserves all the credit in the world for his improvements. Nike certainly deserves some credit there as well- super shoes, special pressure-sensing treadmills no one else had at the time, etc.