Oslo 5k being paced at sub 12:30

I think the argument for 10k goat is much stronger if he wins in Paris

Eh I don’t think he’ll win in Paris, but if he did I think he would be the only 2x Olympic Champion that had a WR in the last 100 years of the 5000.

Which is a cool stat, but I just have respect for Bekele racing the 3000/5000 much more and winning at a high level. We’ll see if Cheptegei doubles as he’s done it just once as well. Bekele doubled 4x in his 6 global champs (skipping in Helsinki and Osaka) during his prime with 2 Golds and 2 Silvers in the 5, and 4 golds in the 10. Cheptegei has done a double just twice in 4 prime opportunities to date (‘23 withdrawal due to injury) .

They’ll need a 4k pacer. Excited for the attempt

JI does not currently have the standard, but is ranked 5th which currently places him easily in the olympics as the 25th entry in a field of 42 behind 24 athletes who have the standard. Looking at the list on road to Paris it seems unlikely that all slots would be filled by those with the standard, but you never know.

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That is true. None of the 5000m runners WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE 5000M IN OSLO.

But what about the 5000m runner who is probably participating in the 1500m?

Jakob: I AM the pacemaker.

Based on what he has said he will compete in, I think he is either not doubling or just counting on what you said by world ranking

If you’re referring to Ingebrigtsen, he can’t approach 7:50, either. His 7:54 is likely to be the record for a long, long time and he’s not a 5000m runner.

Possible pacers:
McSweyn
Barega
Mills
Krop
Girma
Kipkorir
Mo Ahmed, likely not fit enough
Tefera
Nordas
Kipsang


Unlikely but would be an option:
Balew
Jakob, obv wouldnt do it
Fisher
Kerr, especially after that i3000
Nuguse, probs wouldnt do it

The two time defending world champion in the 5000 is not a 5000m runner? News to me. Also, you should probably rewatch the race of his 2 mile where he closed in 55 the last lap, splitting 4:00 / 3:54 if you think 7:54 was the absolute fastest he could've gone.

That's just wrong. He in fact is a 5000 runner. He won both WC's in a row in the 5000. But he's not a 5000 runner? Plus, he opened in 4:00 in that 2 mile and ran 3:53 point at the end. Nowhere near an ideally paced race. Your comments confuse me.

He can run a fast 5000m but you could also call him a 1500m or maybe a 2-mile runner. The correct description of his skills is 1500/5000m.

I didn’t realize his 2-mile negative split was that significant. If you’re going to go with only one label, he should be called a 2-miler.

Your pacer options are way too accomplished, to be honest. McSweyn paced Jakob as a favor for a friend, but why would 12:45 men be pacing their competitors? Last year we saw Birke Haylom pace Tsegay in a similar scenario. So, the best bet is to look for someone under the same management/coach who is more of a 1500/3000 runner or up-and-comer. Kuma Girma maybe if Lamecha was in this race. Daniel Kimaiyo or Samuel Kibathi potentially. Munguti if he has some 1500s later in his trip. Dan Kibet potentially. It is unlikely to be a highly-credential 5K runner.

Lol. I can completely guarantee that this won't happen haha, EPO or not. They'll say they're going for it until they run a 2:39 3rd kilometer and hit 3k in 7:50. Then, they'll all run a huge negative split for the win with a 54:xx last 400. Probably a little bit under 13 minutes.

Only hope for this race is if Kelejcha is in it; seems like he's the only dude that will willingly make a huge move mid-race to break everyone.

Jakob is a 5k runner who has a deep obsession for the 1500. If he were to abandon his efforts in the 1500 and focus purely on the 5k and up, he would most definitely be in the conversation to be the first sub 12:30 runner, let alone breaking the 5k world record.

I don´t think Jakob is able to run 7:50.5 in the 2 miles at the moment (or sub 12:30 in the 5000m).

But I am one of the (minority?) guys who think Jakob can improve his AEROBIC CAPACITY significantly the coming years. So -barring serious illness or injury - I think he can get both marks. I, however, guess he will go after the 3000m WR before he attacks the 2 miles again if ever.

You can be certain that he will double. He would possibly also triple if the 10000m was run last.

Did you guys watch the fast DL 5ks last season? With 12:40, 12:41 and 12:42 winning times in 3 different races with 3 different winners, I wouldn’t be so confident this will wind up being a 12:50s race. Also, in those 3 races, Kiplimo, Aregawi and Krop, respectively, all forced the pace mid-race.