I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Kerr isn't even top-3 in this race. His first sce outdoors last year he finished 9th behind all of the OAC. I don't think it matters that much for Kerr if he doesn't place well, though I'm sure he'll want to. In each of the last four championship years, he's ran his fastest race of the year in the final of the global champs. He peaks at the right time. Of the three big hitters, I think Kerr would be the least bothered by a disappointing performance
Nah, Haile Geb and Hicham EL G were like best friends on and off the track. They were also neck and neck in terms of talent and ability level. Haile ran the occasional 1500m and even won 1999 world indoors 1500m with a kick in the last 50m even more shocking (faster) than Kerr's in even more shockingly slow/lousy shoes, while EL G ran the occasional 5k race. Both even ran together one time in an indoor track meet and later embraced and kissed each other on the cheek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The level of love, respect and intimacy between these 2 men were such that if one had to be clean so must the other and if one had to be exceptionally talented distance runner so had to be the other, and finally if one had to have almost 2 decades of top level running with few injuries and exhaustion so had to have the other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EL G was clean BECAUSE Haile was clean; Haile was clean BECAUSE EL G was clean, do you understand the supremacy of my subjective reason and persuasion right here?????
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Agree, it's a repugnant ad right here!!!!! Quite debase and immoral in my opinion too!!!
Distance running is not like MMA but world athletics is trying to pit 2 runners as if they were boxers??????
Shows that athletics is running out of ideas LOL!!!! Shocking to say the least that world athletics needs to resort to copying the paradigm of MMA/boxing to remain relevant?????
Disgusting!!!
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I wouldn't pick Kerr over Jakob in an early race like this, but I suspect Jakob won't be ready. People are not giving Kerr enough credit for the kind of shape he's been in. He can hang with a much faster pace now. Nuguse doesn't seem to want it bad enough so I'd say he's going to be happy just running a fast time in May. Kerr is just too smart and fit right now. I can see Jakob going for it, followed by Nuguse and Kerr, with Jakob struggling the last 300 and Kerr sniping Nuguse in the last 100.
Jakob won't only not be ready, he had lost the ability to be ready in the first place after siring part of his testosteronic energy to form a baby with Elisabeth, and, corrupt his Achilles tendon with irreversible scar issue!!!! Speaking of the most cut-throat event in track and field which is 1500m/mile, I'm sorry you simply cannot afford to spill your seed to form a baby and/or combine it with irreversible scar tissue from Achilles tendon injury 1 year out from the most supposedly cut-throat race of all time----Paris Olympic 1500m!!!!!
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I'd like Jakob to win but 4+ months of no running is a long time. Probably the longest injury period of his life. Much longer than Wightman was away from running at any point last year. And Wightman was still relatively rusty this indoor season despite having a full winter of training under his belt.
I can't see past Kerr right now. I'm totally on the hype train but don't want to be.
Smart guy. You finally see eye to eye with me if not on RF matters than on the matter of Kerr being the winner in this upcoming race.
My first instinct was to go with the very fit Josh Kerr.
Since it will have pacers, I would lean towards Jakob.
I’d be elated to see Nuguse pull it off.
I’d place odds at 45% Jakob, 30% Kerr, 20% Nuguse, 5% the field.
Not possible. Jakob's blemished Achilles tendon scar tissue will make the presence of pacers irrelevant if he can't even keep up with them like before the injury. It's Nuguse and Kerr who would be on the train of the pacers.
Kerr is in phenomenal form but in a rabbited race I'll go with Nuguse. He's consistently beaten him in these sorts of races and he has a faster PR. Jakob would be the favorite with no injuries but it's hard to pick him with so many question marks around his fitness. He's historically been a quick starter though with good performances indoors and early season, so maybe he will prove me wrong and run a world record.
As far as the pacers go, I'll bet they defer to Kerr. Defending world champ, in fine form, just beat Nuguse head to head and also set a world record this year. Gives him a bit of an advantage, but he is a brash runner and might ask for a hot (sub-1:52) pace anyway.
i just don't know about this. i feel like Nuguse is one of those guys who is incredibly strong inside his own head, can push himself to fast times, has the talent and ability to run really quick... but just doesn't have a racer's mentality or competitive drive. he'll fight against himself, but not against the likes of Kerr/Ing.
Kerr has looked really strong this winter. that strength could be the key to a win for him.
but this is Jakob's race to lose. how much fitness does he bring to this? make no bones, if he shows up, he's racing for the win. hopefully he's not so cocky that he races from the front.
Nuguse doesn't lack a racer's mentality or competitive drive, he lacks biomechanics. He can't react and respond to surges with no time delay due to a terrible arm swing. He can only react and respond to slow and gradual winding up of the pace ala Diamond League final 2023 when Jakob was rabbiting!!!
Jakob winds things up in a gradual and gentle manner whereas Taoufik Makloufi goes in a flash!!!!! Nuguse can beat Jakob and run him close but could never defeat Makloufi who is analogous to Kerr!!! Kerr also goes away quite suddenly albeit less so than Makloufi!!!
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Can Nuguse at least win a senior race first before the yanks start talking about him like the second coming of Christ?
Yank here. I actually think Nuguse has been unfairly disrespected since World Indoors, with everyone deciding he lacks the fire or killer instinct to win. Like ok, he’s won NCAA titles, USA titles, Diamond League races, a global silver medal and challenged Jakob at the end of a 3:43 mile but for some reason he lacks that magical essence needed to win a major gold medal (because he’s failed in his first two opportunities)…it doesn’t actually hold water for me.
As for his high ceiling/talent level, the man has already run 3:43.97. Can’t really argue with that.
And what we’re talking about here, the Bowerman Mile, is a Diamond League race. Nuguse was won 2 DL races (2 for 5), while Kerr has won 0 DL races (0 for 6).
This is an interesting spot for Jakob. I feel like the last few times he raced in sub-optimal shape, he either had a soft field (last year indoors after sickness), or at Monaco in 2021 (where Tim led it out and Katir/Tim beat him). This time, it's a strong field and if he's in less than top shape, Kerr and Nuguse are just gonna go by him.
I think there is much more upside for Jakob to racing them regardless of his fitness. If he doesn't win, I believe he will not be surprised and he can psychologically absorb the experience and relieve some of the tremendous pressure he has put on himself. He is not the world champ and the pressure is more on Kerr to assert some dominance - Kerr stands to lose more than he has to gain. With that said - I doubt we see these 3 lining up to race in the end.
Can Nuguse at least win a senior race first before the yanks start talking about him like the second coming of Christ?
Yank here. I actually think Nuguse has been unfairly disrespected since World Indoors, with everyone deciding he lacks the fire or killer instinct to win. Like ok, he’s won NCAA titles, USA titles, Diamond League races, a global silver medal and challenged Jakob at the end of a 3:43 mile but for some reason he lacks that magical essence needed to win a major gold medal (because he’s failed in his first two opportunities)…it doesn’t actually hold water for me.
As for his high ceiling/talent level, the man has already run 3:43.97. Can’t really argue with that.
And what we’re talking about here, the Bowerman Mile, is a Diamond League race. Nuguse was won 2 DL races (2 for 5), while Kerr has won 0 DL races (0 for 6).
Yeah but Kerr's fitness is superb right now... realistic to think he can ride a hot pace for a long time. I do not expect him to jump on the rabbit's shoulder one the gun goes off. With a field like this, if he manages to sit on Jakob or Buguse, he's guaranteed to run very fast. In other words, he can just race tactically like he always has.
Can Nuguse at least win a senior race first before the yanks start talking about him like the second coming of Christ?
Lolz, Nuguse has knocked on the door of something really special a few times already, but there does seem to be a lack of mental edge or urgency. Maybe he feels he has lots of room to improve still and doesn't get worried when he doesn't win. BUT the reality is you can't predict your health and fitness and assume you'll be able to improve significantly. He has a fantastic kick and doesn't need to break the WR to win a gold medal. But he does need to psych himself up to take down giants with fkn authority.
All-time content coming from Khamis here. What are the betting odds on Nuguse being a virgin?
Yes, my content reasons and persuades more people than some believe because I know which space-time to prioritize in which moment and occasion. It's a TOTAL all-encompassing reasoning and persuading.
Yes Nuguse is subjectively a virgin based on his space-time susceptibility, do not ever doubt that!!! That's the reason why he is running 'fast enough' and contending for positions and medals----his bioelectromagnetic field is at least not compromised or corrupted by another woman's if it's already somewhat compromised by anthropogenic RFs!!!
While as for Jakob at this moment in space-time, he has compromised his bioelectromagnetic field with both an impending baby, and, anthropogenic RFs, so he is worse off than Nuguse, meaning Nuguse will beat Jakob from henceforth no matter what happens!!!!
We just got a press release from TrackTown USA announcing the three headliners for the Bowerman Mile at the 2024 Pre Classic on May 25: Jakob Ingebrigtsen, Josh Kerr, and Yared Nuguse.
It will be Ingebrigtsen's first race of 2024 and his first race against Josh Kerr since he was upset in the 2023 World Championship final.
Can Nuguse at least win a senior race first before the yanks start talking about him like the second coming of Christ?
Lolz, Nuguse has knocked on the door of something really special a few times already, but there does seem to be a lack of mental edge or urgency. Maybe he feels he has lots of room to improve still and doesn't get worried when he doesn't win. BUT the reality is you can't predict your health and fitness and assume you'll be able to improve significantly. He has a fantastic kick and doesn't need to break the WR to win a gold medal. But he does need to psych himself up to take down giants with fkn authority.
regards,
Armchair coach
It's Nuguse's terrible arm swing mechanics that is causing him problems for the win, not that he lacks urgency and mental edge!!! Look at how urgent he finished the race at world indoors behind Kerr, his face said it all gritting his teeth and all!!!! Rather he COULDN'T BE URGENT AT THE MOMENT IN SPACE AND TIME MOST NEEDED OR MOST SUSCEPTIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do I mean??????
I do mean that he couldn't be urgent (react and respond) in or at instantaneous moment in space and time as when Kerr and Barega took off which was most needed or most susceptible of him to have done so in order to win the race!!!!!!!
There is also thus no problem with his psyche given that he ultimately BECAME URGENT nonetheless!!!!! It's rather that he did not or couldn't become urgent AT THE RIGHT (SUSCEPTIBLE) MOMENT IN SPACE AND TIME to beat Kerr and win world indoors!!!!
That's it!!!!! That's how you do reason and persuasion!!!
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Can Nuguse at least win a senior race first before the yanks start talking about him like the second coming of Christ?
Yank here. I actually think Nuguse has been unfairly disrespected since World Indoors, with everyone deciding he lacks the fire or killer instinct to win. Like ok, he’s won NCAA titles, USA titles, Diamond League races, a global silver medal and challenged Jakob at the end of a 3:43 mile but for some reason he lacks that magical essence needed to win a major gold medal (because he’s failed in his first two opportunities)…it doesn’t actually hold water for me.
As for his high ceiling/talent level, the man has already run 3:43.97. Can’t really argue with that.
And what we’re talking about here, the Bowerman Mile, is a Diamond League race. Nuguse was won 2 DL races (2 for 5), while Kerr has won 0 DL races (0 for 6).
Dear John, dun worry, I'm not one who believes Nuguse lacks fire or killer instinct as can be evoked from all my posts and comments in this thread. Instead, I reasoned and persuaded that Nuguse lacks arms/biomechanics to supply the fire and killer instinct to win a top level race. In a kicker's race, all firepower is activated from the arms and mid-section. Nuguse looks like he is juggling a tennis ball in his 2 hands the way he is carrying them.
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