Some folks care about the competitive element of parkrun and some folks telling them they shouldn't care about it. Theres not going to be any compromise between these two groups.
Then theres the "should trans women be counted as female in sport?" Which is a whole wider subject than parkrun. And the presumption is that parkrun dont know how they could deal with it, or even want to go near it, so have just deleted the bits where its causing ripples?
Its not Park Run hiding the agenda -Its you that wants to share some wierd transphobe agenda behind the fact that now you cant complain about trans people taking a record that never actually exisited.
I'm confused- are you saying that the reason parkrun removed all of the records was indeed to not 'put off' new parkrunners? Despite the fact that almost none of them would even know there was a 'category record' page hidden away far beyond the registration page? Despite the fact that the number of parkrun athletes and volunteers already expand way beyond expectations year after year? Despite the fact that the results page- the most accessible page of them all- still lists times and places of all participants in time order? If so, I have a bridge to sell you.
I'm one of those women who can run around 19.30 on a good day. That means I can win my local park run occasionally. I also live in an area where there just aren't that many races within 90 minutes - 2 hours drive. So park run is very much a race for our local fastest female runners. Its like if you allowed cyclists into park run. You might be a man who can run 16.45 and win, but how would you feel if you were beaten by a guy on a bike? What about a scooter?
Stop telling women what to think. You aren't a woman, and you have no clue about what motivates women or even the fact that we are all different. Our local park run is very much a race, or at least it is amongst us women. I don't want some 50 year old man getting recorded as first woman over the line because he identifies as a woman for the purpose of getting a first place finish recorded against his name, or because he's twice my size and does'nt have to put up with the threat of being followed or sexually assaulted while he's out training and has to fit all his runs into his lunch break from work in order to stay safe.
You are thinking something is a race when the people who set it up, organise it, run it, support it, advocate it etc etc etc for the last bloody time.....DONT
How many more times can i tell you, just because you love to think its a race, the women with pensis think they are a Woman beither of you are right.
The rest of the world who dont live in this tiny myopic world dont think its a race.
And before you tell me lots of people are complaining, its a massive massive event run but millions of not billions of people.
A tiny tiny section of offended people are complaining
You are thinking something is a race when the people who set it up, organise it, run it, support it, advocate it etc etc etc for the last bloody time.....DONT
How many more times can i tell you, just because you love to think its a race, the women with pensis think they are a Woman beither of you are right.
The rest of the world who dont live in this tiny myopic world dont think its a race.
And before you tell me lots of people are complaining, its a massive massive event run but millions of not billions of people.
A tiny tiny section of offended people are complaining
So you're telling me, and all the other women who race park run and are interested in getting a top 3 finish recorded, that we are all mistaken and we are not racing at all? Because you are a self admitted slow male runner who has never come within a chance of winning a race?
Our poor little female brains, not knowing what to correctly think!
Thank goodness a great man has come along to correct the error of our ways!
Next time, I will make sure to run along sprinkling fairy dust, dressed in pink, leaving the men (all incarnations of them) to race past me!
Except there won't be a next time, because all of the fast women runners in our local area are boycotting park run for the foreseeable future.
Then you can complain about how slow female park runners are compared to males. At this rate, even you will be in with a chance of finishing in the top 100 overall!
You are thinking something is a race when the people who set it up, organise it, run it, support it, advocate it etc etc etc for the last bloody time.....DONT
Then they should remove times, placings and fixed 5k distance. Remove from it contributing from runBritain and power of 10.
fyi - the people who originally set it up, named it Bushy Park Time Trial. Later renamed UK Time Trial (UKTT) - if this is not considered a race then I don't know what is! Then later renamed to Parkrun. Yes things evolve and change. If parkrun really want to move away from being a race then as said, see my point above
So you're telling me, and all the other women who race park run and are interested in getting a top 3 finish recorded, that we are all mistaken and we are not racing at all? Because you are a self admitted slow male runner who has never come within a chance of winning a race?
Our poor little female brains, not knowing what to correctly think!
Thank goodness a great man has come along to correct the error of our ways!
Let me try to mansplain you again....
Lots and lots of people think things.
Those people can be male or female.
I have no doubt that they can all believe what they think is true.
But just because they think these things it does not mean they are automatically true
This is the park run website....
parkrun is a free, community event where you can walk, jog, run, volunteer or spectate. parkrun is 5k and takes place every Saturday morning. junior parkrun is 2k, dedicated to 4-14 year olds and their families, every Sunday morning. parkrun is positive, welcoming and inclusive, there is no time limit and no one finishes last. Everyone is welcome to come along.
So you're telling me, and all the other women who race park run and are interested in getting a top 3 finish recorded, that we are all mistaken and we are not racing at all? Because you are a self admitted slow male runner who has never come within a chance of winning a race?
Our poor little female brains, not knowing what to correctly think!
Thank goodness a great man has come along to correct the error of our ways!
Let me try to mansplain you again....
Lots and lots of people think things.
Those people can be male or female.
I have no doubt that they can all believe what they think is true.
But just because they think these things it does not mean they are automatically true
This is the park run website....
parkrun is a free, community event where you can walk, jog, run, volunteer or spectate. parkrun is 5k and takes place every Saturday morning. junior parkrun is 2k, dedicated to 4-14 year olds and their families, every Sunday morning. parkrun is positive, welcoming and inclusive, there is no time limit and no one finishes last. Everyone is welcome to come along.
Please let me know where it says its a race?
It’s not what you say, it’s how you act. They can say anything they want, but until they stop running the event as a race, it’s a race. Do you believe everything you read and are told? Of course not.
They really should remove powerof10 and runbritain rankings. That makes no sense.
Giving people an individual time and performance history is perfectly sensible.
It is possible and permissible to race in something that's not a race. Just don't expect a medal or a ranking, and please try not to step on any small dogs.
they dont run the event as a race - only the people running the community event as a race think its a race. Again i dont care you can be as competative as you want and race it as hard as you want, many pros do and millions enjoy it for that. But millions of people buy Coca Cola to clean old coins but but its not what its for so dont be suprised if they change the recipie and it does not clean them
Is the objective of Mara Yamuchi and her band of followers to get Parkrun cancelled completely??? Because it seems like it, judging from her response to Parkruns deletion of the records.
She and her band of followers have been targeting Parkrun for months. Some even turning up at events with leaflets and wearing t-shirts with the logo SAvINgWoMeNsSpOrTs. They say that trans and non binary people should have their own category but some marathons introduced this and they were still not happy. No matter what you do to appease these people they just move the goal posts again.
Under the 'race' category you will find they have raced at 6 parkrun events Note these 'races' would have contributed to their runBritain and powerof10 rankings
You are thinking something is a race when the people who set it up, organise it, run it, support it, advocate it etc etc etc for the last bloody time.....DONT
How many more times can i tell you, just because you love to think its a race, the women with pensis think they are a Woman beither of you are right.
The rest of the world who dont live in this tiny myopic world dont think its a race.
And before you tell me lots of people are complaining, its a massive massive event run but millions of not billions of people.
A tiny tiny section of offended people are complaining
So you're telling me, and all the other women who race park run and are interested in getting a top 3 finish recorded, that we are all mistaken and we are not racing at all? Because you are a self admitted slow male runner who has never come within a chance of winning a race?
Our poor little female brains, not knowing what to correctly think!
Thank goodness a great man has come along to correct the error of our ways!
Next time, I will make sure to run along sprinkling fairy dust, dressed in pink, leaving the men (all incarnations of them) to race past me!
Except there won't be a next time, because all of the fast women runners in our local area are boycotting park run for the foreseeable future.
Then you can complain about how slow female park runners are compared to males. At this rate, even you will be in with a chance of finishing in the top 100 overall!
One minute you're a 19.30 runner, next minute, you and the other 'fast women runners are boycotting'.
19.30 is slow, i'm sorry Parkrun inflated your ego. What a blow your absence will be to the volunteers at the free community event.