Yea Liberty 28 Michigan 21 too if we're making sh*t up why not?
Best response ever!
Why can't anyone believe Michigan is the best team in the country? And all this talk about the coach "cheating" - all he did was get caught. If you think Alabama, Georgia, et. al. are not doing essentially the same thing, you are just like the guy who thought the power 5 conferences weren't paying players before it became "legal." I remember good football players who couldn't even afford a car before enrolling and then they were driving a new BMW. That was back in the 80s/90s. Please - they're all doing it. the NCAA just doesn't like Harbaugh. No way an SEC coach would have been cited under the same circumstances. Oh, and I am NOT a Michigan fan - just a realist.
Should have been the FSU team that went 13-0 (not the JV team that lost to Georgia).
But they weren't available this week. The team that was available lost by 30 scores.
Exactly. FSU should've fielded a team to back up all their "we belong" talk instead of going out and getting stomped by 60 points, which according to ESPN is the biggest blowout in bowl game history. Embarassing from a program that insisted they deserved a spot in the CFP and could compete with the best. If anyone "deserved" a spot, it was Georgia and they back it up, unlike FSU.
I know, that's why I put "deserved" in quotes. Doesn't take away from the fact Georgia had a much stronger case for the CFP than FSU ever did. For the record, putting Georgia just outside was the right call, I don't think they should've been in unless Washington lost in the Pac-12 Championship game.
I know, that's why I put "deserved" in quotes. Doesn't take away from the fact Georgia had a much stronger case for the CFP than FSU ever did. For the record, putting Georgia just outside was the right call, I don't think they should've been in unless Washington lost in the Pac-12 Championship game.
I know, that's why I put "deserved" in quotes. Doesn't take away from the fact Georgia had a much stronger case for the CFP than FSU ever did. For the record, putting Georgia just outside was the right call, I don't think they should've been in unless Washington lost in the Pac-12 Championship game.
They did not have a better argument.
They absolutely did. Ranked #1 all season beating multiple ranked teams, had a tougher strength of schedule than FSU (11 vs 55), and lost by 3 to a ranked Alabama team. FSU without Jordan Travis looked shaky at best in a limited sample size. BTW, the Louisville team they scored one TD against let an unranked USC's backup QB put up 372 yards and 6 TDs.
They absolutely did. Ranked #1 all season beating multiple ranked teams, had a tougher strength of schedule than FSU (11 vs 55), and lost by 3 to a ranked Alabama team. FSU without Jordan Travis looked shaky at best in a limited sample size. BTW, the Louisville team they scored one TD against let an unranked USC's backup QB put up 372 yards and 6 TDs.
No, they didn't. Georgia beat 3 teams who ended up in the top 25: Tennessee, Ole Miss, Missouri. Florida State beat 3: LSU, Clemson, Louisville. Georgia went out of conference to play the powerhouses of: UT Martin, Ball St. and UAB. Florida State played Florida, LSU and (2 cupcakes). I understand that Georgia looked like a stronger team all season and the ACC looked weaker than usual this year (but SEC didn't look like god's gift to football when they played out of conference this year either). But the first thing is winning and FSU did that. Georgia may have looked like the strongest team in college football all year, probably would have stomped FSU at full strength, but they were the 6th most deserving team (maybe 5th as maybe you can argue Texas deserved it less than Georgia)--it ain't a beauty contest. Moreover, the SEC championship game was clearly a play-in game, unless you had upsets across the rest of the league.
They absolutely did. Ranked #1 all season beating multiple ranked teams, had a tougher strength of schedule ...
... Georgia went out of conference to play the powerhouses of: UT Martin, Ball St. and UAB. ...
And, in the typical SEC win-padding way ("strength" of schedule), all three of those games were played on Georgia's home field.
Alabama played their three OFC games at home, including "powerhouse" South Florida which finished the regular season at 6-6. Alabama decided to "pad" the score by going for a TD with 30 seconds left, turning a 10-3 squeaker into a 17-3 "convincing" win. Alabama also needed a miracle play to beat 6-6 Auburn on 4th and infinity with 30 seconds left.
They absolutely did. Ranked #1 all season beating multiple ranked teams, had a tougher strength of schedule than FSU (11 vs 55), and lost by 3 to a ranked Alabama team. FSU without Jordan Travis looked shaky at best in a limited sample size. BTW, the Louisville team they scored one TD against let an unranked USC's backup QB put up 372 yards and 6 TDs.
No, they didn't. Georgia beat 3 teams who ended up in the top 25: Tennessee, Ole Miss, Missouri. Florida State beat 3: LSU, Clemson, Louisville. Georgia went out of conference to play the powerhouses of: UT Martin, Ball St. and UAB. Florida State played Florida, LSU and (2 cupcakes). I understand that Georgia looked like a stronger team all season and the ACC looked weaker than usual this year (but SEC didn't look like god's gift to football when they played out of conference this year either). But the first thing is winning and FSU did that. Georgia may have looked like the strongest team in college football all year, probably would have stomped FSU at full strength, but they were the 6th most deserving team (maybe 5th as maybe you can argue Texas deserved it less than Georgia)--it ain't a beauty contest. Moreover, the SEC championship game was clearly a play-in game, unless you had upsets across the rest of the league.
Yes, they did have a stronger case. Georgia looked and played like the better team all season, especially in the games Jordan Travis missed and the backup/third string played. The same Florida team FSU beat 24-15, Georgia beat 43-20. Further, Georgia had a tougher in-conference schedule than FSU as all of its ranked wins game against SEC opponents. And 3 cupcake games vs 2 isn't exactly a great argument for who deserves to be in more, considering they share a common opponent in Florida (. Which, Georgia beat 43-20 while FSU won 24-15.
Regardless of who "deserved" a spot between Georgia and FSU, Alabama earned their spot with four ranked wins (Georgia, Ole Miss, Tennessee, and LSU), won the SEC Championship, and only had a loss to #3 Texas. A better resume than both Georgia and FSU.
... Georgia went out of conference to play the powerhouses of: UT Martin, Ball St. and UAB. ...
And, in the typical SEC win-padding way ("strength" of schedule), all three of those games were played on Georgia's home field.
Alabama played their three OFC games at home, including "powerhouse" South Florida which finished the regular season at 6-6. Alabama decided to "pad" the score by going for a TD with 30 seconds left, turning a 10-3 squeaker into a 17-3 "convincing" win. Alabama also needed a miracle play to beat 6-6 Auburn on 4th and infinity with 30 seconds left.
You do know that FSU played the powerhouse programs of North Alabama and Southern Miss. at home, right? And the LSU game was held in Orlando, which was basically a home game (4 hours away). See how dumb of an argument that is? Georgia and Alabama played a tougher in conference schedule than FSU, which takes the pressure off of needing to play a tough out of conference schedule.
Every team in the Top 6 does the same thing. All out of conference games against bad teams are played at home. Any OFC against good teams are either part of a home-and-awya series that switches each year, or played at a neutral site. And in-conference games are swap the home team each year, doesn't matter the opponent. It's not the "typical SEC win-padding way" it's the typical "Good Power 5 team paying a bad team to beat at home."
And, in the typical SEC win-padding way ("strength" of schedule), all three of those games were played on Georgia's home field.
Alabama played their three OFC games at home, including "powerhouse" South Florida which finished the regular season at 6-6. Alabama decided to "pad" the score by going for a TD with 30 seconds left, turning a 10-3 squeaker into a 17-3 "convincing" win. Alabama also needed a miracle play to beat 6-6 Auburn on 4th and infinity with 30 seconds left.
You do know that FSU played the powerhouse programs of North Alabama and Southern Miss. at home, right? And the LSU game was held in Orlando, which was basically a home game (4 hours away). See how dumb of an argument that is? Georgia and Alabama played a tougher in conference schedule than FSU, which takes the pressure off of needing to play a tough out of conference schedule.
Every team in the Top 6 does the same thing. All out of conference games against bad teams are played at home. Any OFC against good teams are either part of a home-and-awya series that switches each year, or played at a neutral site. And in-conference games are swap the home team each year, doesn't matter the opponent. It's not the "typical SEC win-padding way" it's the typical "Good Power 5 team paying a bad team to beat at home."
Why won't the SEC play 9 conference games like everyone else? Seems that only playing 8 conference games, with the 9th replaced by a cupcake team, is an easy way to pad the resumes of all SEC teams, giving the illusion of a more difficult in-conference schedule, and avoids potential losses. How many times have Georgia and Alabama played each other during the regular season? Ohio St. and Michigan play every year, same for Oklahoma/Texas (obviously this will all change soon). Credit to Florida for scheduling Utah in addition to their usual FSU game.
You do know that FSU played the powerhouse programs of North Alabama and Southern Miss. at home, right? And the LSU game was held in Orlando, which was basically a home game (4 hours away). See how dumb of an argument that is? Georgia and Alabama played a tougher in conference schedule than FSU, which takes the pressure off of needing to play a tough out of conference schedule.
Every team in the Top 6 does the same thing. All out of conference games against bad teams are played at home. Any OFC against good teams are either part of a home-and-awya series that switches each year, or played at a neutral site. And in-conference games are swap the home team each year, doesn't matter the opponent. It's not the "typical SEC win-padding way" it's the typical "Good Power 5 team paying a bad team to beat at home."
Why won't the SEC play 9 conference games like everyone else? Seems that only playing 8 conference games, with the 9th replaced by a cupcake team, is an easy way to pad the resumes of all SEC teams, giving the illusion of a more difficult in-conference schedule, and avoids potential losses. How many times have Georgia and Alabama played each other during the regular season? Ohio St. and Michigan play every year, same for Oklahoma/Texas (obviously this will all change soon). Credit to Florida for scheduling Utah in addition to their usual FSU game.
That guy is wrong with his evaluation of FSU vs Georgia resume, BUT….FSU (and the ACC) only have 8 conference games, like the SEC. Now some have to play Notre Dame each year, but not all.
And, in the typical SEC win-padding way ("strength" of schedule), all three of those games were played on Georgia's home field.
Alabama played their three OFC games at home, including "powerhouse" South Florida which finished the regular season at 6-6. Alabama decided to "pad" the score by going for a TD with 30 seconds left, turning a 10-3 squeaker into a 17-3 "convincing" win. Alabama also needed a miracle play to beat 6-6 Auburn on 4th and infinity with 30 seconds left.
You do know that FSU played the powerhouse programs of North Alabama and Southern Miss. at home, right? And the LSU game was held in Orlando, which was basically a home game (4 hours away). See how dumb MY argument that is?
Four hours away is a "home" game! LOL. Yes, your argument is really DUMB. Another SEC scheduling trick is forcing better teams to play at "neutral" sites, hours away.
LSU refused to play FSU on FSU's HOME FIELD. It is 440 driving miles from LSU to FSU -- a ~6 hour drive. Instead of meeting somewhere in-between, LSU forced Orlando as the game site. Orlando has direct flights from New Orleans, but only 1-stop flights from Tallahassee. By flying, LSU gets to Orlando faster than FSU can by either flying or driving.
Why won't the SEC play 9 conference games like everyone else? Seems that only playing 8 conference games, with the 9th replaced by a cupcake team, is an easy way to pad the resumes of all SEC teams, giving the illusion of a more difficult in-conference schedule, and avoids potential losses. How many times have Georgia and Alabama played each other during the regular season? Ohio St. and Michigan play every year, same for Oklahoma/Texas (obviously this will all change soon). Credit to Florida for scheduling Utah in addition to their usual FSU game.
That guy is wrong with his evaluation of FSU vs Georgia resume, BUT….FSU (and the ACC) only have 8 conference games, like the SEC. Now some have to play Notre Dame each year, but not all.
The 8 conference games were part of the agreement to allow ACC teams to more easily schedule Notre Dame. Otherwise, there would be a 10 game commitment and only two cupcake games for ACC teams rather than the longtime standard of three cupcakes the SEC uses to pad their number of wins. Also, in the SEC some teams do not play each other every years, same as the setup with Notre Dame.
That guy is wrong with his evaluation of FSU vs Georgia resume, BUT….FSU (and the ACC) only have 8 conference games, like the SEC. Now some have to play Notre Dame each year, but not all.
The 8 conference games were part of the agreement to allow ACC teams to more easily schedule Notre Dame. Otherwise, there would be a 10 game commitment and only two cupcake games for ACC teams rather than the longtime standard of three cupcakes the SEC uses to pad their number of wins. Also, in the SEC some teams do not play each other every years, same as the setup with Notre Dame.
I’m aware of and pointed out the “why”, but the facts are that FSU played the same number of conference games as SEC schools. Kudos to them for having 2 SEC opponents, though.
The 8 conference games were part of the agreement to allow ACC teams to more easily schedule Notre Dame. Otherwise, there would be a 10 game commitment and only two cupcake games for ACC teams rather than the longtime standard of three cupcakes the SEC uses to pad their number of wins. Also, in the SEC some teams do not play each other every years, same as the setup with Notre Dame.
I’m aware of and pointed out the “why”, but the facts are that FSU played the same number of conference games as SEC schools. Kudos to them for having 2 SEC opponents, though.
You called the Orlando site a home game for FSU. Thereby, giving LSU an excuse for losing by three TDs.
I’m aware of and pointed out the “why”, but the facts are that FSU played the same number of conference games as SEC schools. Kudos to them for having 2 SEC opponents, though.
You called the Orlando site a home game for FSU. Thereby, giving LSU an excuse for losing by three TDs.
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