Brussels 2000m start lists out! Can Jakob break the world record??

Lolz, what illness? You fell for that?

No one's mentioned it yet but I really, really hope Hudson-Smith goes under 44.

He's just such a likable guy. I would love to see him become the first European under 44.

No. These are quality points. Jakob is not a pure 1500m runner so he will not run the same quality effort at 1500m. His 3k and 2mile will be better than his 1500/mile. Should still eventually dip under 3:27.00 and 3:45.00, but his 2k, 3k, 2mile will be his his best events.

I do, however, believe that 12:36 will come down the road a bit.

That’s beside the point though. Theoretically, the World Athletics tables can be used to compare two completely different types of athletes to see who’s relatively stronger in their respective disciplines. So while the 1304 points score for Jakob’s 2-mile doesn’t mean he should be capable of sub-3:26 or 12:34, if the tables were perfect (they never are, they’re fluid and change with new incoming data) it would mean he’s stronger at the 2 mile than El Guerrouj was at 1500 or Cheptegei was at 5k.

I mathed this out (jk) and these are my predictions for this 2k:

1. Jakob Ingebrigtsen 4:45.15 (55.13) AR
2. Reynold Cheruiyot 4:49.27 (57.88) WU20R
3. Narve Nordas 4:49.78 (56.30)
4. Mario Garcia 4:50.76 (57.39) NR
5. Stewart McSweyn 4:51.28 (59.22)
6. Abel Kipsang 4:51.53 (59.10)
7. Niels Laros 4:52.46 (58.65) NR
8. Charles Philibert-Thiboutot 4:52.65 (58.11) NR
9. Elliot Giles 4:53.34 (59.14)
10. Ismael Debjani 4:54.07 (59.32) NR
11. Ruben Verheyden 4:54.41 (60.02)
12. Jochem Vermeulen 4:55.06 (59.78)

Last lap splits in parentheses.

for whoever isn't already deservedly drowning in their own spiteful apoplexy, there is no such thing as a "2000m world record." It's a world best, and for good reason. Off-distance.

Face it folks. Look how low you're setting the bar for your hero. Even you know he can't break a real record.

You can vote that it hurts, you can vote that you hate me, but you can't vote it false. It's true and you know it. What kind of person hates the truth? By hating me you hate the truth. That's my talent, I'm Morpheus with the red pill.

For such a rarely run distance, the record is extremely strong. Behind the 1500m mark, but almost on par with the 3000m one.

All your acting (just to get attention) in this forum, is this of a child

Yawn

The 2.000 meter IS a world record. The 2 mile is a world best. Isn't that correct?

Fair enough!

Does anyone have the latest forecast on Jakob's temperature leading into this race?

I will make an exception and give you an upvote, although I as always disagree in what you are saying about Jakob and so forth -because your provocative approach is somewhat interesting (I suspect you yourself don’t believe in 90% of what you are saying), but first and foremost because your words about votes (arrows) seem to be of value and truth: Both up and down arrows tend to function cowardly in the sense that they try to manipulate what a poster can say, without giving a post in return with reasoning and critique that can be met and dealt with for further discussion… In this you make a space for honesty by ignoring any fear of unpopularity and downvotes (as only a few other posters “dare”) -would be perfect if you found the opportunity to fill this space with some serious stuff in between…

So to your content: I myself think Jakob could have beaten both the (real) 3 and 5000m WR this year, although I’m not totally sure of the last one. But given Jakob’s 2 mile time, his training and supposed constitution this seems likely/possible. But of course sad that sickness / Worlds / program made this untried this season…

I agree for the most part with this prediction but for the top 5 i would rather say:

1) Jakob Ingebrigtsen 4'46"08

2) Reynold Cheruyiot 4'48"70

3) Abel Kipsang 4'49"25

4) Narve Gilje Nordås 4'49"60

5) Mario Garcia 4'50"02

Jakob clearly has better 1500/3000m bests than either Ali Saïdi-Sief and/or Noureddine Morceli, the two closest on the list to El Guerrouj. The question is how much does Jakob have in the tank to run a 3:48 1600m and close in 56 to close in on El G's world best 4:44?

Correct, the 2000 meter is a WR by World Athletics.

Source:

worldathletics.org

World Athletics

Link:worldathletics.org/records/by-category...

Exactly my point. Tables allow comparisons of different marks/distances based upon quality. The 7:54.10 is absurdly fast. Unreal. I was pointing out to another poster that JI will not run a 1304 pt mark at 1500m because that's not his ideal distance. Bottom of his range. The 2k, 3k, 2mile are his best events where he will likely post the highest quality marks.

Maybe, but according to himself, and many in his circle, he is better the longer the distance gets (up to the half marathon). I hope we'll find out some day.

It's ok to hope for a good show, but a lot of people in this thread will be let down tomorrow.

A 4:47.5±1s is what I expect to see.

it depends on the results