It's amazing (not really) that some people think girls should voluntarily give up their opportunity to compete in the biggest races of their career so that their opportunity would not be denied by trans athletes.
What are they interested in? Defending the rights of girls? Or humiliating trans students?
If they do, then I don't care - they made their own bed. However, if just one girl doesn't want to compete against a biological male - or if one of the actual girls who had their opportunity taken away doesn't - it's a travesty of justice
Based. The only way to stop this madness would having the 100m finals be all male
Exactly. Lean in
Convince 4 conservative atheltic boys that play baseball/football/basketball to come out to run track and form a super relay team of males identifying as females. Watch them crush the competition and win multiple state medals. Have them form a 4x4 and 4x1 team that wins state.
Honestly 4 untrained atheltic varsity football and basketball players could easily win multiple state titles with little training.
Please, someone in California try and form a team to do this.
I don't think this will work because it won't be interpreted as sincere trans identification. Supporters will simply dismiss this as hateful rightwing behavior. You're up against a hermetically sealed worldview that ignores its own contradictions and dismisses all outside criticisms. In fact, even insiders who criticize the logic will be dismissed as people who have succumbed to hateful rhetoric.
This may have to be settled via lawsuits and/or financial threats. A major malpractice insurance provider in Australia recently announced that they will not indemnify physicians who give puberty blockers, hormones, and surgery referrals for minors outside of speciality clinics. For sports, women and girls may have to file claims based on sex discrimination and Title IX violations. Like many women's rights advocates before them, these women and girls will be called immoral, hateful, and crazy. It's sad that we have to revisit this stuff in 2023, but that's the reality we're confronting.
There is a world of difference between acknowledging gender atypicality in children, or even tolerating/accepting adults who decide to live as if they are members of the other sex, and insisting that these gender atypical people are literally members of the other sex. This is also leaving aside the fact that a non-negligible proportion of males who identify as women are acting out a sexual fantasy (autogynephilia) while others are predators exploiting a Grand Canyon-size loophole in the law and social norms.
People who are hellbent on forcing others to say or believe something patently false are inherently dangerous, whether they know it or not.
It's amazing (not really) that some people think girls should voluntarily give up their opportunity to compete in the biggest races of their career so that their opportunity would not be denied by trans athletes.
What are they interested in? Defending the rights of girls? Or humiliating trans students?
I imagine some of them are interested in defending truth.
It's amazing (not really) that some people think girls should voluntarily give up their opportunity to compete in the biggest races of their career so that their opportunity would not be denied by trans athletes.
What are they interested in? Defending the rights of girls? Or humiliating trans students?
I imagine some of them are interested in defending truth.
Imagine they are willing to throw teenage girls under the bus to score some ideological point.
I think the only solution is to lean into this hard.
Get a conservative Christian private school in California to field a basketball team of males that all "identify" as females. Watch them go undefeated and destroy the competition at state by enormous margins.
Liberals will seethe and stop the nonsense.
I'm not kidding. I bet I could get a trolling alt right organization to fund a team of athletic males to do this....
The coach of your dream team would be the biggest POS in the history of HS coaching. I can’t think of anything much worse than using people you hate as pawns to make some stupid point.
as opposed to the coaches CURRENTLY letting a male compete in high school track against OPs daughter?
Who is to say this dream team is not also experiencing gender dysphoria? You are gatekeeping trans identities.
I hope someone does this and trolls california hard. they will be forced to make a rule that males cannot compete.
The coach of your dream team would be the biggest POS in the history of HS coaching. I can’t think of anything much worse than using people you hate as pawns to make some stupid point.
as opposed to the coaches CURRENTLY letting a male compete in high school track against OPs daughter?
Who is to say this dream team is not also experiencing gender dysphoria? You are gatekeeping trans identities.
I hope someone does this and trolls california hard. they will be forced to make a rule that males cannot compete.
A coach can’t prevent a transgender athlete from competing.
STOCKTON, CA—Cackling as the steps of the dastardly plan crystallized in her mind, local trans teen Brie Chandler told reporters Tuesday that she had hatched a nefarious plot to undergo years of medical treatments and counsel...
I have watched videos of the two trans kids...and obviously feel bad for them knowing their life can't be easy.
My daughter has asked me about this in the past and I have assured her that it wouldn't affect her. Now she's going to have to line up in a prelim on California's biggest stage against one of them...and hopefully she'll make the final (and then face both of them).
But these kids are getting faster and this problem is not going away.
REAP WHAT YOU (probably) VOTED FOR.
I've never been a fan of this notion on either side.
When we vote, we vote for a myriad of issues that are important
I am a liberal, I care about bodily autonomy (in all things from gender affirming care to reproductive rights), making sure our kids learn actual history good, bad and ugly, not a watered down version of it, climate change is real and things need to be done about it, and I would like to not be shot at a grocery store and a school because our gun laws were too lax.
But I also think that trans women playing sports with cis women is wildly unfair.
No one is going to align completely with your values but you have to prioritize and make compromises.
If my daughter was racing this weekend, chances are I'd have mated with a Demi god because she'd be running sub 5 (!!!!) and my genes would need some help getting there. But if she was, I would be concerned and believe it was unfair. But I wouldn't change the way I vote for this and this alone. Because I'd also care about her rights to choice, her right to breathe clean air, and not get shot in school and all that stuff.
She'd probably be well on her way to a college scholarship anyways.
I have watched videos of the two trans kids...and obviously feel bad for them knowing their life can't be easy.
My daughter has asked me about this in the past and I have assured her that it wouldn't affect her. Now she's going to have to line up in a prelim on California's biggest stage against one of them...and hopefully she'll make the final (and then face both of them).
But these kids are getting faster and this problem is not going away.
There is a real possibility one of them will win the whole thing and by next year they will be clocking in the 4:20s. Taking down all of the state records. Sucks that we all just have to watch it happen.
I actually want this to happen. At this point, if they have a shot at winning, just go the whole way.
Then maybe people can see what a joke this is. This weekend one of the most gifted young runners in America ever is towing the line in the state final. She is a thrill to watch but she's hardly mentioned. Instead it's all Athena Ryan and Lorelei Barrett, two Trans identifying males stealing the attention. This is what women and girls are losing.
I wish we could be excited about Sadie Engelhardt instead.
I've never been a fan of this notion on either side.
When we vote, we vote for a myriad of issues that are important
I am a liberal, I care about bodily autonomy (in all things from gender affirming care to reproductive rights), making sure our kids learn actual history good, bad and ugly, not a watered down version of it, climate change is real and things need to be done about it, and I would like to not be shot at a grocery store and a school because our gun laws were too lax.
But I also think that trans women playing sports with cis women is wildly unfair.
No one is going to align completely with your values but you have to prioritize and make compromises.
You're on the side of evil, and against bodily autonomy. What you call "reproductive rights" is the legalized murder of another human being, "gender affirming care" is the grooming, gaslighting, and sexual butchering of an underage child, or if the mentally ill person is an adult, the medical abuse of mentally ill person who can't give consent because of being mentally ill. And of course you're on all in on hoaxes like Climate Change, probably took the "vaccines" and continued to support the Left as they tried to coerce them upon the population of the collective "West."
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