No, the underlying ideology of "Black Lives Matter" is that police should not be killing our citizens; the underlying ideology of anti-racist groups is that people should not be racist. The underlying ideology of the cultural revolution was Maoist and included such DeSatan-like values as anti-intellectualism and xenophobia, as well as political mobilization, class struggle, and egalitarianism. Still, what defined the cultural revolution was the destruction of Mao's perceived enemies, closing schools, universities, churches, etc. and killing millions. I'm seeing estimates of 2 million deaths for the Cultural Revolution and from 15 to 55 million for the Great Leap Forward.
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The_Real_Bullet_Proof1 wrote:
zxvczvxc wrote:
Third, what's wrong with a little voluntary justice here when black people were long deprived of the ability to buy homes in white neighborhoods or to see their own homes appreciate in value because of federal and corporate redlining?
You cannot make this claim unless you yourself have “volunteered your justice” (sold your house for under market value to a minority).
Not at all. It's a question, not a claim. I am asking what is wrong with this. Whether I am right is independent of my own actions. However, to that point, I did volunteer two years of my life to service to people in a former British colony in East Africa, so I guess I'm good there.
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why are the sellers not selling to trans, gay, women, muslims, asians etc? why only black or indigenous? why not donate their homes those homeless or illegals?
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wokeness run amok wrote:
Being a "liberal" in America has always been about indoctrination and shoving woke values down people's throats.
Then Ron DeSatan must be a liberal because he is all about indoctrination and shoving his values down our throats. You can't teach certain concepts in Florida anymore, including the notion of "identity politics" and the notion that there is systemic racism, sexism, etc. in our institutions, yet there is also the claim that history has to be evidence-based. What if the evidence shows that there was systemic racism? What if it showed, say, that slaves were to be counted as 3/5 of a person, right there in the Constitution? Would I or would I not be allowed to teach that?
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zxvczvxc wrote:
No, the underlying ideology of "Black Lives Matter" is that police should not be killing our citizens; the underlying ideology of anti-racist groups is that people should not be racist. The underlying ideology of the cultural revolution was Maoist and included such DeSatan-like values as anti-intellectualism and xenophobia, as well as political mobilization, class struggle, and egalitarianism. Still, what defined the cultural revolution was the destruction of Mao's perceived enemies, closing schools, universities, churches, etc. and killing millions. I'm seeing estimates of 2 million deaths for the Cultural Revolution and from 15 to 55 million for the Great Leap Forward.
The funny thing about Leftists such as yourself is that you all always try to put lipstick on the ugliest pig imaginable. You can't decouple what one says from their actions. If there's a discrepancy, such as these people ostensibly having noble intentions and the reality that they're really just acting on baser instincts like envy, anger, etc., we're expected to believe in the ideological veneer of legitimacy offered up in vague platitudes about equity as Leftists define the word
Look, I get it. You'd want nothing more than to be able to send me off to the Gulag where I'd be murdered so you can eliminate a class enemy and all that. But you're still a vile, degenerate @$$ hole deep down no matter how you try to spin it.
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Mnjjkkjj wrote:
Is the formation of Israel one of the first form of reparation?
No, it is the last example of 19th century colonialism.
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Good for them. If people elect to do this for themselves, so be it.
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duder of la mancha wrote:
Not surprising. Anyone who hasn't should read into the Chinese Cultural Revolution. People with far left wing psychologies and personalities have done things like this throughout history. They don't worship anything but their ideology.
So you're saying that all of those people didn't have a religion? Really?
You write about hate in your later posts, but a lot of hate is coming from your direction. As for the person who wrote that no (doesn't matter if it's Conservative, Liberal, right or left) has hated him based on his sex or colour. It's not about you, it's not about one individual. Would you have had a difference experience if your sex and colour were changed? This isn't a left vs right thing.
When the left fights the right with a particular severity, the loser often isn't either of those sides but more the whole country.
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Many people donate to nonprofit organizations, political causes, or religious organizations that support causes they care about.
Many of the specific causes that some people choose to support may seem very strange to others. And yet, people do it. The commenters who are complaining about this probably support causes that I might think are insane.
I see this as being similar to other kinds of donations. I wouldn't do it myself, but I can understand it in a similar light. People see structural injustice and want to do something to help. Sure, it's only a drop in the bucket, but that's true for almost anything one supports charitably, because unless you're a billionaire, good things can only come through collective contributions of like-minded people.
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I’ll ask a reverse question: would you feel the same way if a white (or even Asian) homeowner refused to sell to a prospective black buyer?
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zxvczvxc wrote:
But you seem to think that the behavior of black people is something critically important to your conception of civilization, so why wouldn't you want to do something to change the trajectory of that segment of the population whose ancestors went through slavery and segregation in this country?
I have done "something to change the trajectory of that segment of the population whose ancestors went through slavery and segregation in this country?" Lots of somethings, over many years. All of them positive and I believe would meet your approval.
Why do you ask heavily loaded rhetorical questions when you could just say exactly what your reasons are for supporting reparations, and what your opinion is of the character of people who oppose it?
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Welfare wrote:
I’ll ask a reverse question: would you feel the same way if a white (or even Asian) homeowner refused to sell to a prospective black buyer?
That's what has been happening for decades and decades, and caused the problem that this group and individuals are trying to mitigate.
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Sonnys wrote:
Must think they're morons. But I'd take it
It's "Morans" in these parts...
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Self-loathing European-Americans are the most pathetic people on earth. They hate themselves, their culture, their background, their DNA and openly wish genocide on their own people and country. No other culture has this craziness going on. People who have faith in the future don't wish replacement for their own people.
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How am I being replaced?
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what 't is wrote:
Welfare wrote:
I’ll ask a reverse question: would you feel the same way if a white (or even Asian) homeowner refused to sell to a prospective black buyer?
That's what has been happening for decades and decades, and caused the problem that this group and individuals are trying to mitigate.
The barrier to entry for the neighborhood in the article was simply cost. The woman decided to sell her second home -- valued at over $400,000 -- for the balance left on the mortgage (something like $230,000). No one was refusing to sell the man in question a home; he simply couldn't afford the neighborhood.
I couldn't afford my current neighborhood until I was in my 40s, we now have 20-somethings who are trying to get in, because they "deserve" a nice home in the $400,000 range (a high price in this midwest rustbelt city). Their parents are footing the bill, that is if they can outbid the 30-somethings and 40-somethings who can actually afford the homes on their own income.
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NY Times wrote:
A Black loan applicant in the United States is more than twice as likely to be denied a home mortgage as a white applicant, aggravating the homeownership gap between Black and white Americans, according to a new report.32 -
what 't is wrote:
NY Times wrote:
A Black loan applicant in the United States is more than twice as likely to be denied a home mortgage as a white applicant, aggravating the homeownership gap between Black and white Americans, according to a new report..I can't read the article, paywalled.
Are they being refused because of their race? Or is it bad credit, can't meet income requirements, or some other reason related to their finances, job, etc?
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blork1980 wrote:
Self-loathing European-Americans are the most pathetic people on earth. They hate themselves, their culture, their background, their DNA and openly wish genocide on their own people and country. No other culture has this craziness going on. People who have faith in the future don't wish replacement for their own people.
Fascinating, isn’t it? The superior white race just lets themselves get replaced. I’m not worried about it though. Our culture of imperialism and baseball will be around for a long time I’m sure. Much longer than I’ll be alive
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Nancy B. wrote:
what 't is wrote:
.I can't read the article, paywalled.
Are they being refused because of their race? Or is it bad credit, can't meet income requirements, or some other reason related to their finances, job, etc?
National Assoc. of Realtors wrote:
Discrimination in Transactions
In addition to being asked about their recent homebuying experience, home buyers were asked if they had experienced or witnessed discrimination during their real estate transaction. Half of Hispanic American home buyers said they experienced steering toward or away from specific neighborhoods, followed by 29% of White, 12% of Black and less than 1% of Asian American home buyers. Forty-six percent of Hispanic American home buyers experienced discrimination by the refusal of a homeowner or agent to show property, followed by 24% of Black, 15% of White and less than 1% of Asian Americans. Thirty-nine percent of Black American home buyers reported discrimination through home appraisal, followed by 17% of Asian, 9% of White and less than 1% of Hispanic Americans.NY Times article previously linked wrote:
Racism and discrimination — baked into the federal government’s housing policy for decades via redlining, inequitable division of resources and the disparate distribution of federal funds and grants dating back to the Jim Crow era — have put Black people at a disadvantage, the report notes. It persists today in appraisal bias, fees on home buyer assistance, and even the way in which student loan debt is calculated in loan applications, and will remain insurmountable until the policies themselves are fully unraveled, said Jim Carr, the report’s co-author.
“Blacks are making progress in slowly obtaining homeownership,” said Mr. Carr, a housing finance and urban policy expert. “But the barriers are so substantial and so multifaceted that they’re never going to come anywhere near to closing the gap unless the federal government takes action that repairs the damage which the federal government did.”21
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