CNN runs a piece celebrating a kid who was accepted to 185 different colleges after he announces he's chosen CORNELL!!!!

What were the other 182 schools you applied to?

The flipside is the "Asian Valedictorian with 1590 SAT rejected from all Ivies" story.

It’s only questioned by racist trash, you mean.

And….he’s…

White men were excepted into elite schools for decades before those colleges accepted women and before there was any racial diversity to speak of. They were also accepted with poor academic records and often got in just because they had attended the ‘right’ schools or have come from the ‘right’ families. They seemed to have been able to overcome any guilt about their college acceptances just fine.

I think you are referring to privileged white men who are now either dead or very old.

But if your point is that anyone getting special privileges over others due to gender or race is wrong, then I completely agree with you.

But if your point is that were biased based on race and gender then so we should do it again now with different criterion, I wholeheartedly disagree with you.

Its just wrong to do.

It must be so hard being part of the marginalized white power gang. How will you ever survive?

Would this have happened if he were Asian?

We're getting a bit astray here, but I do want to comment on the Ivy League (human) medical schools (Among the Ivies, Cornell has the only veterinary school of medicine and it is usually first- or second-ranked in the USA). Princeton has no medical school but the seven other Ivies do, and they are all highly-ranked or very-highly ranked. Here's how US News & World Report ranks medical schools based on research for 2023-2024:

1. Harvard

2. Johns Hopkins (non-Ivy League)

3. Penn (Perelman)

4. Columbia

5. Duke (non-Ivy League)

5. Stanford (non-Ivy League)

5. UC San Francisco (non-Ivy League)

5. Vanderbilt (non-Ivy League)

5. Washington University in St. Louis (non-Ivy League)

10. Cornell

10. NYU (Grossman) (non-Ivy League)

10. Yale

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35. Brown

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48. Dartmouth (Geisel)

2023-2024 Best Medical Schools: Research

Sorry Charlie. Plucking just the Ivies from Shanghai Rankings' Academic Ranking of World Universities for 2022 (the most recent available as I type), we find Penn 6th among the Ivies, so Penn is NOT "always the 4th best" of the Ivies:

Harvard 1st

Princeton 6th

Columbia 8th (This was, I believe, before a Columbia math professor exposed Columbia for fraudulent claims about spending on various academic programs.)

Yale 11th

Cornell 12th

Penn 15th

Brown 99th

Dartmouth 301st-400th ( I suspect that Dartmouth's low placement is due to the methodology's high emphasis on research.)

2022 Academic Ranking of World Universities

IIRC I applied to UTEP and UDub. Those I had seen some of, so I applied there. Oh, and Deep Springs, but I didn't complete the application.

Penn has a veterinary school and is the only program that awards the VMD.

BTW, ivy league refers to the undergraduate, not the graduate and professional schools.

I did my graduate work at PENN, but I am not an ivy league graduate.

Thank you. I'll try to remember that.

If a VMD is the same as a DVM, Cornell offers that. And its veterinary school is certainly ranked above Penn's.

Here are the QS World University Rankings for 2024:

1. MIT

2. University of Cambridge

3. University of Oxford

4. Harvard

5. Stanford

6. Imperial College London

7. ETH Zurich

8. National University o Singapore

9. UCL

10. University of California, Berkeley

11. University of Chicago

12. University of Pennsylvania

13. Cornell University

14. The University of Melbourne

15. Caltech

16. Yale University

17. Peking University

17. Princeton University

19. The University of New South Wales

19. The University of Sydney

21. University of Toronto

22. The University of Edinburgh

23. Columbia University

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73. Brown University

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237. Dartmouth University

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QS World University Rankings 2024

Explore QS World University Rankings® 2024 of 1400 institutions based on 8 key ranking indicators- academics, faculty/student ratio, international student & more.

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meh. All these "school Rankings" can be total BS.

I would wonder what college at Cornell he got into though?

Back when I applied and went there you had to pick ahead of time: (i.e. "Engineering" or "Arts and Sciences" college and the applications were specific and a bit different to that school within Cornell....even coming from the Common Ap etc). I actually had to take a bunch of SAT IIs (Physics, Math etc) also for Engineering.

I applied and got into Cornell Engineering because it was the program I wanted to be in. Don't get me wrong...Stanford would have been nice too! At Harvard I believe I applied to the "Design school" instead. Rojo told me to apply to the "Ag school" at Cornell because it was "easier to get into"....but I didn't listen to him and took my chances!

People look at college rankings without realizing the strength of certain programs and majors. You want a good engineering or architecture or vet school? Well look at Cornell!

Well, the following (excerpted from the article linked below) relates to the five Ivy law schools (Brown, Dartmouth, and Princeton are Ivies but have no law school) and not to undergraduate education, but it is interesting:

1. Columbia Law School
Median earnings of graduates four years after graduation: $280,926
Median Stafford and Grad PLUS loan debt: $198,924
Median debt as a percentage of median annual earnings: 71%

2. University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School
Median earnings of graduates four years after graduation: $261,434
Median Stafford and Grad PLUS loan debt: $171,488
Median debt as a percentage of median annual earnings:66%

3. Cornell Law School
Median earnings of graduates four years after graduation: $249,283
Median Stafford and Grad PLUS loan debt: $162,160
Median debt as a percentage of median annual earnings: 65%

4. Harvard Law School
Median earnings of graduates four years after graduation: $233,589
Median Stafford and Grad PLUS loan debt: $93,235
Median debt as a percentage of median annual earnings:40%

5. Yale Law School
Median earnings of graduates four years after graduation: $204,668
Median Stafford and Grad PLUS loan debt: $140,977
Median debt as a percentage of median annual earnings: 69%

Here's the percentage of law students who paid full tuition at the rest of the Ivy League schools during the 2021-22 school year:

Harvard: 57%

Penn: 45%

Yale: 36%

Columbia: 35%

Cornell: 15%

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Graduates of this Ivy League law school make the most money—and it's not Harvard or Yale

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Ivy League law school students may take on a small mountain of debt to attend. But median earnings among graduates are so high it might be worth it.

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