The Ivys don't do sports scholarships but they do sports based admissions (if a coach says they want an athlete and they meet minimum requirements, they are in), and then they do need-based financial aid, so while it isn't technically a sports scholarship, there are many athletes that are there because they are athletes and are on scholarship because their parents don't have a lot of resources.
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Should I take a gap year and reapply after the Supreme Court likely bans affirmative action?
- 1580, 36; 4.0 unweighted in the most rigorous classes, top 5%; 3 state level extracurriculars and 1 national level extracurricular, but I'm also biracial - half Asian and half white. My interviews also were good, and I'm sure my rec letters were good as well. I know that if I had been any other race, I'd likely have been accepted everywhere I applied
Should I take a gap year or apply to transfer as a freshman?
It won't change. Those schools already have back up routes ready to use to admit subpar black and Hispanic students in case AF is banned. I bet your parents voted for Barack and all the democrats. They are reaping now what they sawed.
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Be patient. I have 25 years higher-ed admin experience. There are a few thousand highly qualified minority students that apply to 10 to 15 or more institutions each. Their high school advisors tell them to do this to find the best package. They will typically get accepted to every school they apply for. Once these folks pick schools, the waitlists will open up. We see it every year. There is a still a good chance you will get into a top school. If you truly have a perfect ACT, you are one of about 4000. You are an elite student and will be in demand once other applicants start making decisions.
I have sat in many admissions meetings over the years. Here is how it goes. First, any elite minorities are automatically admitted. The athletes, musicians, or other students with exceptional talents are admitted if they meet a low minimum standard and are on a list given to the committee by the athletic department, or other university entity. Students with ties to the right people at the school are on a different list and are also immediately admitted. Children of school employees are admitted as long as they meet a low standard. Children of prominent donors are admitted at that low standard. Children of legacies are then admitted (not a sure thing like it used to be). Next, special circumstance applicants are admitted (handicapped, international from impoverished areas, etc...).
After all of these groups are taken care of, slightly less qualified minorities are admitted. (note - of all minorities we accept, only about 8-10% actually matriculate). Finally, at this point, things open up to everyone else. As for the process of how nearly identical high quality applicants are chosen...well...it is unscientific and pretty random. Schools like to geographically diverse so applicants for low population states have an advantage. Committees like home school kids because they are good citizens on campus. How impacted your intended major is will matter. Committees will look at your social media (if you are a partier, you will not get in). Yes...schools will look for political leanings on your social media. This is very important to some committee members. Extra curriculars and interviews are pretty much never discussed. Bad interviews only happen in movies and extra curriculars could all be made up and often are.
This is one of the best and most truthful posts in the history of this site! Bravo and thanks for dispensing a healthy dose of reality.
I forgot to mention a few other groups of people who take up admissions spots. School employees who want to obtain a degree are pretty much automatically admitted. Most schools only do this for your first degree. The other is tuition exchanges with other schools. Do not underestimate how many of these there are. So, an employee at school A has a child who wants to attend school B. School B will accept the child (at a low standard) and give free tuition in exchange for school A giving the same benefit at some point to a child of an employee at school B. Schools typically only have these agreements with similar schools. Once again, a surprising number of spots are taken at these schools before the regular admissions candidates are even considered.
Why not go Trans during the application process? You'll only have to pretend to be a degenerate freak for a few months, then you can go back to being a sane person. Ivy's love accepting they/thems.
The smarter move would stay as far away from the Northeast as possible as it's likely by the time you'd graduate, you won't be attending a school in the REAL US anymore anyways.
Should I take a gap year and reapply after the Supreme Court likely bans affirmative action?
- 1580, 36; 4.0 unweighted in the most rigorous classes, top 5%; 3 state level extracurriculars and 1 national level extracurricular, but I'm also biracial - half Asian and half white. My interviews also were good, and I'm sure my rec letters were good as well. I know that if I had been any other race, I'd likely have been accepted everywhere I applied
Should I take a gap year or apply to transfer as a freshman?
It won't change. Those schools already have back up routes ready to use to admit subpar black and Hispanic students in case AF is banned. I bet your parents voted for Barack and all the democrats. They are reaping now what they sawed.
Why not go Trans during the application process? You'll only have to pretend to be a degenerate freak for a few months, then you can go back to being a sane person. Ivy's love accepting they/thems.
The smarter move would stay as far away from the Northeast as possible as it's likely by the time you'd graduate, you won't be attending a school in the REAL US anymore anyways.
That was equal parts hateful, angry, bigoted, and unfunny. Have you tried becoming a writer for "GUTFELD!"?
Seeing as how you're the type to come to Letsrun to complain about how you perceive affirmative action harming you- your interviews weren't nearly as good as you thought they were.
Why not go Trans during the application process? You'll only have to pretend to be a degenerate freak for a few months, then you can go back to being a sane person. Ivy's love accepting they/thems.
The smarter move would stay as far away from the Northeast as possible as it's likely by the time you'd graduate, you won't be attending a school in the REAL US anymore anyways.
That was equal parts hateful, angry, bigoted, and unfunny. Have you tried becoming a writer for "GUTFELD!"?
Sorry the accurate representation of America in 2023 offended you. Not all of us can live in a world of delusion like you've obviously been groomed into.
Seeing as how you're the type to come to Letsrun to complain about how you perceive affirmative action harming you- your interviews weren't nearly as good as you thought they were.
That was equal parts hateful, angry, bigoted, and unfunny. Have you tried becoming a writer for "GUTFELD!"?
Sorry the accurate representation of America in 2023 offended you. Not all of us can live in a world of delusion like you've obviously been groomed into.
I am truly sorry that you are threatened and very frightened by 0.58% of the population. Sadder still, you are afraid that they are superior to you in some way since they obviously control nearly all aspects of American life and conservative legislators are working overtime to stop them from taking over completely.
Well, what can you expect. You’d be better off waiting for affirmative action to be shut down. But still they’ll keep doing this in some other way. Like how some prestigious institutes are abandoning test scores. We know why
More fun with UC admissions data from OC public schools:
The more students exceeded English and Math standards, and the higher their average AP test score, the lower their UC Berkeley 2022 acceptance rate at their school.
"All major institutions systematically persecuting your race for being too successful is on you bro" You know a black person scoring a 1200 on the SAT is seen as better than an asian scoring 1650 (50 points above a perfect score), but yeah op shouldve just done that
Seeing as how you're the type to come to Letsrun to complain about how you perceive affirmative action harming you- your interviews weren't nearly as good as you thought they were.
Typical democrat racists. They automatically assume the OP didn't interview well. Isn't that the line of reasoning admissions at one of the Ivy's used to discriminate against Asians? Let's talk about numbers. This is what I gathered at Harvard admissions data.
Black's SAT score puts them at 78 percentile vs Asians at 96 percentile. So the trio of supposedly marginalized students take up over 30% of the spots at Harvard. You think this is fair? The right question is why do these people belong at Harvard just because of their skin color? They can get into a lot top state schools with those numbers. This is a blatant form of racism. Democrats are the real racists.
Honestly, that’d probably help. Even though virtually every top college is extremely liberal and woke, the ones he’s considering are both in red states. If he claimed “I feel unsafe due to M.AGA republicans…” every college would eat that up.
It’s obviously not the most ethical, but I wouldn’t consider it fully unethical either - the ends justify the means
The kind of people that DON'T get wholesale rejected by these schools are not the type to make this thread with this scapegoating if they did. Victomhood isn't going to help. We know he interviewed poorly and had poor essays based on his time here, not because of his race.
Honestly, that’d probably help. Even though virtually every top college is extremely liberal and woke, the ones he’s considering are both in red states. If he claimed “I feel unsafe due to M.AGA republicans…” every college would eat that up.
It’s obviously not the most ethical, but I wouldn’t consider it fully unethical either - the ends justify the means
Not sure about Washington University in St. Louis though. It's filled with rich liberal's kids. You know the ones who virtue signal from their safe havens away from urban youth problems. The school itself is exactly that. It's located in the 'safe' area in the outskirts of the city but it can get pretty dicey quick if you veer off to the wrong area.
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