At what point does flakiness become a liability for race appearance fee offers from major races? I imagine there's got to be a certain point where races simply don't want to risk throwing big money at someone who's not likely to show.
We merged to threads into 1. The 1st was "Molly Seidel out of Nagoya Marahton?" and the 2nd was "Seidel withdraws from Nagoya - is she DONE?". Here is her instagram post explaining "pulled my glute badly at the half champs".
At what point does flakiness become a liability for race appearance fee offers from major races? I imagine there's got to be a certain point where races simply don't want to risk throwing big money at someone who's not likely to show.
Scooby Dooby wrote:
At what point does flakiness become a liability for race appearance fee offers from major races? I imagine there's got to be a certain point where races simply don't want to risk throwing big money at someone who's not likely to show.
They should make any appearance fees contingent on actually racing. Maybe some portion for showing up and doing some expo engagements if you are injured but they are dumb if they pay up front with no payback clause for not showing.
Her social media is the opposite end of Rupps and neither are good. Post about what you are doing, don't try to sell me anything, don't exaggerate interactions with the public, be mature, and that is a out all you need.
She ran a 1:16 at the B.A.A half at the end of last year, so she'd probably struggle to pull off a 2:32
Does she even have a qualifier yet? As far as I know, the last marathon she finished was NY21, which was outside of the window. And I don't think she's run a half in under 1:12 recently.
I'm just guessing but a 1:16 half would put her at 2:38-2:42? The new A standard is 2:37 for women (I think).
Mollys satanic boyfriend wrote:
Yeah the pentagrams and just a ton of occult stuff in general are on his Instagram page. The thing about the penises is they seem to be genuinely pornographic (and there are photos of naked women from porn on his Instagram page too). It’s all public so you can easily confirm all this. I think some of the pentagrams are on his tattoos too, and I’m 99% sure I recall seeing one be a bumper sticker on his car. Guy seems to be a really weird and bad dude overall tbh.
I agree it’s hard to balance fame, but how many excuses for immaturity can we make? Literally look at every other runner her age —-not just now, but I’m running history—-and none of them are posting 69 jokes and etc all the time. Drew, Grant, Galen, name any pro runner, and I just haven’t ever seen any of them stoop to middle school humor or drop f bombs and cuss words in from of high schoolers
Thank you for the clarification! I didn't want to come across as judgy on the porn stuff, some people like that and who am I to call it out? I'm curious if she has a publicist or a social media manager too.
doyouevenknow...? wrote:
Does anyone else honestly think Molly isn't a great influence on the sport? She looks like a nice innocent ND Catholic girl...but honestly she drops f bombs in front of young runners (like high school teams) all the time, makes constant immature middle school humor "69" jokes, and when I looked at her boyfriend's instagram page, he has a ton of pictures of penises and naked people....pentagrams too and other weird stuff...I used to be a fan but tbh she just seems very immature and a bad influence. Not someone I want my kids looking up to...
Her b/f's insta doesn't have what you are referring to unless it's a different boyfriend now.
Swearing doesn't make one cool but she may be doing it to try to at least relate to the kids in that age group. When did she ever make immature jokes? She doesn't seem like a girl who would do that.
Influencer wrote:
She’s a great influence. I’d appreciate her even more if her strava routes ended up being in the shape of penises.
If that happened, Columbus talk show hosts Common Man and T-Bone (97.1 FM) would love it. They are goofballs in the Central Ohio sports scene. To their credit they did a segment on Eliud running the 2:01 a few months ago.
whatawuss wrote:
They should make any appearance fees contingent on actually racing. Maybe some portion for showing up and doing some expo engagements if you are injured but they are dumb if they pay up front with no payback clause for not showing.
Her social media is the opposite end of Rupps and neither are good. Post about what you are doing, don't try to sell me anything, don't exaggerate interactions with the public, be mature, and that is a out all you need.
They do have contingencies. NYC marathon requires you to finish within a certain time range or you have a large reduction.
Scooby Dooby wrote:
At what point does flakiness become a liability for race appearance fee offers from major races? I imagine there's got to be a certain point where races simply don't want to risk throwing big money at someone who's not likely to show.
Well this probably needs to be targeted at Sara Hall for the number of times she “planned to run XX marathon” on social media and didn’t. She definitely surpasses Molly in that area.