Stop trying to spit shine a turd. He’s a banned for using drugs. He’s a professional athlete and has been for a decade. He knows the process. The likely scenario is when faced with the reality of finding a job after a decade of being of “professional“ runner, he’s realized he’s not qualified for anything and try’s to a last ditch effort for another year running.
pathetic. Makes me wonder just how many athletes out there are doping. I used to think it was just a few but now-a-days I think it's the majority, the caveat being not many actually get caught
Unfortunately there are many more doping on many levels than we can imagine, but with that said there are probably a few clean athletes out there.
April 24: Carl Lewis has broken his silence on allegations that he was the beneficiary of a drugs cover-up claiming he was just one of "hundreds" of American athletes allowed to escape bans.
If this substance is more for lifting / bodybuilding, then this bust & banning of a guy at the end of his distance running career is pretty pointless.. just stupid, actually. It makes the entire process look bad, imo.
What an incredible take. Dont you think strength is beneficial in running?
I know it's not the majority of people, but some of you on this thread have some pretty wild takes.
1) Yes people who are not at their peak anymore can still dope. Being 'over the hill' doesn't mean you wouldn't intentionally dope or that you shouldn't be reprimanded for it. 2) Anyone saying 'there's no point really' is completely missing the point, and the wider implications about Nike, USATF, etc. 3) If he was 'basically retired since earlier this year' as someone commented, then he wouldn't have been taking banned substances to boost his performance 4) For all any of you know, while his track times were declining, he could have been in the process with toying with moving to the marathon. Pure speculation by me, but my point again is you don't know. 5) Doping is possibly just as rampant in sub-elite athletics because of the ease of access to certain things on the internet combined with never being in a testing pool. If Joe Bloggs running 2:20 Marathons is doping in his suburban home, still-sponsored pro athletes can be doping, regardless of what you think of their performances.
There's this: Does ostarine actually help with running fast? There should be witnesses about whether Mead's been doing nothing but lifting since June. And they should link the drink.
If (according to this linked twitter post) he retired over the summer, had yet to complete the paperwork, began lifting and taking a readily available supplement, why not hide from the tester take a whereabouts violation?
Are SARMs actually available in any readily available supplement? They are available but I didn't think you could walk into gnc and walkout with a bottle....
And his first action when he quits running is to go for some heavy drugs? Sketchy as can be....
Lukezic was also suspended after refusing to give a sample when his door got knocked on 5+ months after he retired.
That was different though.
Chris retired to go work/start AirBnB, left running for 6 months and refused a drug test when the testers showed up.
Hassan took a drug test, knew he was going to fail and then retired.
Taking an OTC protein drink is obviously risky, but you wouldn't *know* that you are going to fail because of it. I can see not really caring at that point if really retired. It would have been more of a wakeup call to file officially for retirement. If he had really stopped running/training after May and told others he was retiring well before this test, like those close to him have said, I'd give him a pass like Lukezic.
Very interesting. 2016 Olympian and 2017 US 10,000 champ for OTC has accepted a 3-year ban.
U.S. Track & Field Athlete Hassan Mead Accepts Sanction for Anti-Doping Rule Violation
Colorado Springs, Colo. (November 29, 2022) – USADA announced today that Hassan Mead, of Portland, Ore., an athlete in the sport of track and field, has accepted a three-year period of ineligibility for an anti-doping rule violation.
Mead, 33, tested positive for ostarine (enobosarm) and LGD-4033 (ligandrol) metabolite di-hydroxy-LGD-4033 as the result of an out-of-competition urine sample collected on October 17, 2022. Ostarine and LGD-4033 are Non-Specified Substances in the class of Anabolic Agents and are prohibited at all times under the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing, the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee National Anti-Doping Policy, and the World Athletics Anti-Doping Rules, all of which have adopted the World Anti-Doping Code and the World Anti-Doping Agency Prohibited List.
Under Article 10.8.1 of the Code, an athlete who faces an anti-doping rule violation that carries a period of ineligibility of four or more years may receive a one-year sanction reduction if the athlete admits the violation and accepts the asserted sanction within 20 days of notification of the alleged anti-doping rule violation charge. Per the rule, Mead qualified for a one-year reduction to the otherwise applicable four-year period of ineligibility.
Under the Code, all athletes serving a period of ineligibility for an anti-doping rule violation are required to continue to make themselves available for testing in order to receive credit for time completed under their sanction. If an athlete retires during their period of ineligibility, the athlete’s sanction will be tolled until the athlete returns from retirement and once again becomes available for no-advance-notice, out-of-competition testing for the period of ineligibility. Mead’s three-year period of ineligibility took effect on November 2, 2022, the date his provisional suspension was imposed, but Mead retired on November 8, 2022. Therefore, his period of ineligibility will continue until Mead returns from retirement and serves the remainder of his period of ineligibility. In addition, Mead has been disqualified from all competitive results obtained on and subsequent to October 17, 2022, the date his positive sample was collected, including forfeiture of any medals, points and prizes.
In an effort to aid athletes, as well as support team members such as parents and coaches, in understanding the rules applicable to them, USADA provides comprehensive instruction on its website on the testing process and prohibited substances, how to file and update athlete Whereabouts, how to obtain permission to use a necessary medication, and the risks and dangers of taking supplements, as well as performance-enhancing and recreational drugs. In addition, USADA manages a drug reference hotline, Global Drug Reference Online (www.GlobalDRO.com), conducts educational sessions with National Governing Bodies and their athletes, and distributes a multitude of educational materials, such as a supplement guide, a nutrition guide, a clean sport handbook, and periodic alerts and advisories. USADA makes available a number of ways to report the abuse of performance-enhancing drugs in sport in an effort to protect clean athletes and promote clean competition. Any tip can be reported using the USADA Play Clean Tip Center, by text at 87232 ("USADA"), by email at playclean@USADA.org, by phone at 1-877-Play Clean (1-877-752-9253) or by mail. USADA is responsible for the testing and results management process for athletes in the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement and is equally dedicated to preserving the integrity of sport through research initiatives and educational programs.
Wooow. So where does that leave Mark Rowland? With Amos I thought it was entirely plausible that Amos just did what he wanted for whatever months of the year he wasn't in the US and Rowland in theory could have no clue - he just meets them at a training facility every day for a few hours and gives them the plan. But now you have another guy, US based and same group popped - is it possible Rowland knows nothing about this too?
Sad stuff - all of the once "big 3" West Coast distance running squads (of course it's 2 now and Julians "team" magically sucks now) all under huge clouds with respect to doping. Sad times.
Chris retired to go work/start AirBnB, left running for 6 months and refused a drug test when the testers showed up.
Hassan took a drug test, knew he was going to fail and then retired.
Taking an OTC protein drink is obviously risky, but you wouldn't *know* that you are going to fail because of it. I can see not really caring at that point if really retired. It would have been more of a wakeup call to file officially for retirement. If he had really stopped running/training after May and told others he was retiring well before this test, like those close to him have said, I'd give him a pass like Lukezic.
Can you give a link to a single otc protein drink with sarm? I am pretty sure that is about as likely as nandolone burrito...
you could walk into gnc and walkout with a bottle....
And his first action when he quits running is to go for some heavy drugs? Sketchy as can be....
This is the part I find kind of crazy. How many of us clean runners would decide to start taking sketchy supplements loaded with SARMS to put on some muscle the moment we give up running? Ryan Hall is the only one I can think of, but he retired first.
Lukezic was also suspended after refusing to give a sample when his door got knocked on 5+ months after he retired.
That was different though.
Chris retired to go work/start AirBnB, left running for 6 months and refused a drug test when the testers showed up.
Hassan took a drug test, knew he was going to fail and then retired.
Yeah second this - Lukezic was on his way to becoming a multi-millionaire many times over and didn't give a single f--k about ever running a race again. I wouldn't waste my time pissing in a cup for an irrelevant test either.
As you said - Meed is a totally different situation.
If (according to this linked twitter post) he retired over the summer, had yet to complete the paperwork, began lifting and taking a readily available supplement, why not hide from the tester take a whereabouts violation?
Are SARMs actually available in any readily available supplement? They are available but I didn't think you could walk into gnc and walkout with a bottle....
And his first action when he quits running is to go for some heavy drugs? Sketchy as can be....
SARMS are easy to get via the interweb. Hell, they were selling them on Ebay until around 2017. SARMS are definitely not heavy drugs. If PEDs were allowed in professional sports, I doubt many, or any, would take SARMS. AAS, HGH and good ole testosterone would be far better options.
Chris retired to go work/start AirBnB, left running for 6 months and refused a drug test when the testers showed up.
Hassan took a drug test, knew he was going to fail and then retired.
Taking an OTC protein drink is obviously risky, but you wouldn't *know* that you are going to fail because of it. I can see not really caring at that point if really retired. It would have been more of a wakeup call to file officially for retirement. If he had really stopped running/training after May and told others he was retiring well before this test, like those close to him have said, I'd give him a pass like Lukezic.
Show me a protein OTC shake with SARMs in it though.
