Real journalism creates enemies. The Brojos and Gault already face difficulties trying to get access for stories. They don’t cheerlead as blatantly as Citius, but they also don’t risk offending anyone in the sport.
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Not Woodward or Bernstein wrote:
Real journalism creates enemies. The Brojos and Gault already face difficulties trying to get access for stories. They don’t cheerlead as blatantly as Citius, but they also don’t risk offending anyone in the sport.
They’re my enemy. They offend me
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I was at Penn Relays in 95 and I was with a group of runners eating when Wetmore walked by. memory serves that Alan culpepper was injured and one person joked to wetmore that he heard culpepper was looking a little pudgy without training. Wetmore agreed and laughed. At that moment I knew Wetmore would get in trouble in about 30 years once the social norms changed to what they are now
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Hayduke wrote:
I was at Penn Relays in 95 and I was with a group of runners eating when Wetmore walked by. memory serves that Alan culpepper was injured and one person joked to wetmore that he heard culpepper was looking a little pudgy without training. Wetmore agreed and laughed. At that moment I knew Wetmore would get in trouble in about 30 years once the social norms changed to what they are now
Rightly so. Obsessing about weight to that degree (and yes that includes jokes at your athlete’s expense) isn’t healthy
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Hayduke wrote:
I was at Penn Relays in 95 and I was with a group of runners eating when Wetmore walked by. memory serves that Alan culpepper was injured and one person joked to wetmore that he heard culpepper was looking a little pudgy without training. Wetmore agreed and laughed. At that moment I knew Wetmore would get in trouble in about 30 years once the social norms changed to what they are now
Who are you LeBrun James?
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Soft Snowflakes - you obviously know nothing.
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plainsrunner wrote:
Soft Snowflakes - you obviously know nothing.
Wrong
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I wonder if this is the origin of the socktuber's eating disorders?
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Al Cantello much? wrote:
Hayduke wrote:
I was at Penn Relays in 95 and I was with a group of runners eating when Wetmore walked by. memory serves that Alan culpepper was injured and one person joked to wetmore that he heard culpepper was looking a little pudgy without training. Wetmore agreed and laughed. At that moment I knew Wetmore would get in trouble in about 30 years once the social norms changed to what they are now
Rightly so. Obsessing about weight to that degree (and yes that includes jokes at your athlete’s expense) isn’t healthy
The story is 💯 true. I mean I’m not sure I knew what would happen, but weight obsession was in then. We had a coach who weighed us before and after every practice, but to see how much weight we lost and we had to drink a cup of water for every pound lost. besides that the guys even had a gaunt culture. Remember the gaunt is beautiful shirt from once a runner?
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Al Cantello much? wrote:
Hayduke wrote:
I was at Penn Relays in 95 and I was with a group of runners eating when Wetmore walked by. memory serves that Alan culpepper was injured and one person joked to wetmore that he heard culpepper was looking a little pudgy without training. Wetmore agreed and laughed. At that moment I knew Wetmore would get in trouble in about 30 years once the social norms changed to what they are now
Rightly so. Obsessing about weight to that degree (and yes that includes jokes at your athlete’s expense) isn’t healthy
I would say that the more open or inclusive things are the more this happens. people who are not willing to push that far should not walk on they should walk away. Being at the top of any sport or job means almost always making unhealthy choices. It’s called sacrifice! but it’s a choice! It is very unhealthy to run until you have a stress fx, or if you cross the line to trim any excess weight from your body. Pushing to the limits.
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Sacrifice and choice yes, but no, unhealthy choices are unhealthy choices.
Doing something legitimately unhealthy is just that—unhealthy.
There are intelligent sacrifices you can make for success down the road and then there’s just stupid, unnecessary sacrifices.
For me, eating one meal a day and running upwards of 15 miles per day is foolish and idiotic. Nothing could make that an intelligent ”sacrifice”
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D1 athletics are rough and tough. It's not for everyone. One idea: Let people know what the standards are upfront. As an athlete, you make your choice. Maybe run for a different school or a lower level if those standards don't work for you.
Nothing wrong with saying that you want to give it all in terms or work and training, but then draw the line when it comes to eating a healthy diet as opposed to eating an optimal performance diet. Those two diets are not the same. It's more sane to eat healthy, of course.
Also, what do you think they do in wrestling or football? Do we treat women and men the same or not? Or just selectively when it suits an agenda?
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For me, eating one meal a day and running upwards of 15 miles per day is foolish and idiotic. Nothing could make that an intelligent ”sacrifice”
Ask el G or morceli if it was foolish to do that during Ramadan
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ChoppedSwordfish wrote:
Sacrifice and choice yes, but no, unhealthy choices are unhealthy choices.
Doing something legitimately unhealthy is just that—unhealthy.
There are intelligent sacrifices you can make for success down the road and then there’s just stupid, unnecessary sacrifices.
For me, eating one meal a day and running upwards of 15 miles per day is foolish and idiotic. Nothing could make that an intelligent ”sacrifice”
Every wrestler and every lineman in football are making unhealthy choices. They are sacrificing for their sports goals. It's not what I would do, but everyone can make their own choices for their own reasons.
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Hayduke wrote:
Al Cantello much? wrote:
Rightly so. Obsessing about weight to that degree (and yes that includes jokes at your athlete’s expense) isn’t healthy
I would say that the more open or inclusive things are the more this happens. people who are not willing to push that far should not walk on they should walk away. Being at the top of any sport or job means almost always making unhealthy choices. It’s called sacrifice! but it’s a choice! It is very unhealthy to run until you have a stress fx, or if you cross the line to trim any excess weight from your body. Pushing to the limits.
This is the bottom line. You can't have it both ways.
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8th place lol wrote:
Like when the guys on the team raped the female kicker? Yeah totally underserved.
Mark Wetmore is a douche bag. CU is a school for douche bags. The CU xc team is a whole bunch of douche bags and always has been. Everyone who is actually elite knows this. Couldn’t happen to a better program.
Fun Fact: CU has not had a male ncaa champion in over 15 years in any season. Overrated.
So angry. So bitter. Rage on bro!
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killing in the name of wrote:
ChoppedSwordfish wrote:
Sacrifice and choice yes, but no, unhealthy choices are unhealthy choices.
Doing something legitimately unhealthy is just that—unhealthy.
There are intelligent sacrifices you can make for success down the road and then there’s just stupid, unnecessary sacrifices.
For me, eating one meal a day and running upwards of 15 miles per day is foolish and idiotic. Nothing could make that an intelligent ”sacrifice”
Every wrestler and every lineman in football are making unhealthy choices. They are sacrificing for their sports goals. It's not what I would do, but everyone can make their own choices for their own reasons.
No. There’s a clear difference between a coach needing his or her athletes to watch what and how much they eat and coercion into an eating disorder. If a coach does not know the difference then they do not need to be a coach
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Hayduke wrote:
I was at Penn Relays in 95 and I was with a group of runners eating when Wetmore walked by. memory serves that Alan culpepper was injured and one person joked to wetmore that he heard culpepper was looking a little pudgy without training. Wetmore agreed and laughed. At that moment I knew Wetmore would get in trouble in about 30 years once the social norms changed to what they are now
Make sure you get in touch with the investigators at CU. No doubt this anecdote from nearly 28 years ago that may or may not have reflected the protagonist's actual views at the time will be extremely relevant to their look-see into how his program operates at the present time as well as how it operated at the time of the complaint, 20+ years after the interaction which you describe.
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Seymour Butz wrote:
Mmmaaaaaaddddd wrote:
You can separate how you want someone to try to look to how someone looks when they are in peak form.
In the Tour de France one year, they talked about how the cyclists would look at each other’s butts at the start of the tour and could tell who had put in the work and was fast based on a particular shape of the butt.
You shouldn’t tell runners to try and look like Wetmore described, but at the same time you can usefully recognize that that is what fast distance runners in peak form usually look like.
Tell me more about the shape of butts.
Ok. If you have a dumptruck like Serena Williams you will not be competitive in D1 XC.
If you are an emaciated pencil-neck twig you won't be competitive in d1 football.
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GettingFasterDude wrote:
Yes, runners need a certain body composition to be elite. Yes, that message can be conveyed without being abusive or triggering eating disorders and mental health breakdowns.
It’s 2022. We should be able to do both. It does not need to be this hard.
Maybe CU is doing both. Just because one person says they aren't doesn't mean they are.
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