New detailed info about Shelby/btc relationship

She had elevated levels of a synthetic banned substance in her system and couldn't explain how it got there. How is that weak? She failed a drug test administered by a doping control agency. She got what she deserved. Her sob story PR campaign needs to end.

Typical letsrun troll who doesn't realize the right to movement and association is a right against the government. Since nobody wants Shelby arrested, that right does not apply.

If I had to guess, I'd bet you are a PINO -- "Patriot In Name Only" -- someone who wraps herself in American traditions but has no clue about those traditions.

You probably love the Pledge of Allegiance, not knowing it was written by a socialist who wanted to change Aermcians' values.

Well put!

Can you imagine how the Chef would react if a judge starting accepting "I don't know it got there" as a defence in criminal cases. I'm betting she'd go nuts.

better late than never Gault. This article was published 9/7. A little surprised it's just hitting the MB now. Ken Goe caught it.

Maybe they are using her like Salazar's sons while she is on the bench. Doping guinea pig who actually still trains at a pretty high level.

And again just like in the other thread - How are both Schweizer and Cranny used interchangeably as the same character in different tellings or version of this story.

Possible they were both there when Shelby read the email? Maybe.

But it seems like that is a detail you would want to keep straight in your re-tellings of your lie.

Agreed, although it seems pretty cut and dry. It is Jerry's own private gym space, with BTC staff present, not a YMCA where they bumped into each other.

That and the obviously planned runs with the group.

Gross.

This is in no way a statement about SH's guilt or innocence - about which I am unqualified to write. I withhold any opinion.

All I wish to say is that I am sceptical of the truth of anything I read in print. ANYTHING by ANYBODY. Not that this SH story is inaccurate, because it might be spot-on in its honest presentation of facts. However, I've seen over and over and over again how the written word twists the truth and even outright lies, because the writer is either unqualified to report accurately, or because bias has interfered with the supposed ability to present the truth.

Just because a journalist says something doesn't mean it's fact! It's a simple concept to comprehend. How many journalists have written that Trump won the election? How often was Rush Limbaugh pulling the wool over the eyes of his followers? People believe what they want to believe, independent of unbiased investigation.

Some writers present their results of groundbreaking research that is new, insightful, and accurate. This MAY be the case here. Some writers should be sweeping out horse manure from barn stalls for a career.

Dumbest post of the thread. You don't know what these rights actually mean.

Citizens have rights to movement and association without interference by THE GOVERMENT.

If you want to voluntarily participate in activities with USATF, World Athletics, Instagram, Red Lobster, or any other private body, they can limit your movement all day.

Examples for the ignorant: a company (but not the government) can limit your coffee break, or what you do on social media, and a private club can limit your access to the VIP area of the bar. Don't like it? Don't participate.

This is a really good point. She's not bumping into Jerry and the team at his own house.

If a lift session counts as practice (which it almost certainly does) then they violated the rules.

Those aren't/weren't journalists. This is also another red herring argument trying to make Shelby the victim of poor journalism.

She failed a drug test! She's not the victim of a media campaign!

something to think about in retrospect.

I guess it would be easier to do all the training and time trials "by yourself" when you aren't actually by yourself, huh. She basically trained so much with the team it was as though nothing had even changed.

I wonder what she'll do this year now that she's officially banned and outed as training with the team as much as she was.

Well said!

Step farther and ask why anyone still supports Nike? Or too far?

Who cares. She can't race any significant races and she does have to still pass all the tests for several years. It's borderline harassment the amount of scrutiny she is getting for easy runs and core workouts lol.

Stop it. It's not harassment. No one is posting about her private life. No one cares about what she does outside of running at all.

She has turned her own violation of rules and ban into a circus herself. Part of being banned means you can't continue to train with the team. Her persistence in doing so puts all her teammates at risk. It also makes everyone question whether or not she believes rules apply to her at all.

It matters when athletes don't comply with basic rules because the belief that you are above them is not a good look.

Exactly. She's thumbing her nose at the ban. First we find her winning a race when she's not allowed to compete. Now we find her training with her club when she's not allowed to. The big question for me now is whether AIU will respond to all of this or simply let the nose thumbing go on.

I think Shalane is too powerful to let her girl Shelbo fail. I could see them getting away with this for a long time.

I don't get the Landis reference?