Was it a runner who committed this violent act against this woman, or was it some guy waiting to force her into a vehicle. I’m not sure I get how “we male runners” could have done anything to make Eliza “feel safe” here. If anything, this like all other “here’s what men can do to help women feel safe” threads, goes after the wrong people. You can lecture the good guys on all sorts of small things they should be doing while not actually putting women in real danger, and you won’t stop one single bad guy from putting women in danger. If you’re telling men to give a slightly wider berth when passing a woman on the sidewalk, you haven’t prevented an attack or a kidnapping.
I got the impression that the OP expects men to put doggie collars on females and lead them around on a leash on their runs like they were a poodle to keep them safe from that big mean old world.
I got the impression that the OP is clearly trolling.
When I run I exude sexuality... But that's just me... Anyway I don't think people should feel safe unless they are safe... Probably better off to feel somewhat related to your real level of safety... Anyway there's nothing weird about it though... it's not like I'm trying to be sexual it's just my natural vibe... People totally dig it cuz it's done in a healthy way...
Rarely hear about a woman attacked while running in the broad daylight with a running buddy. Also avoid high density crime areas regardless. As a fit male there are places I would not dare run, especially alone in the dark, use common sense. As a father of 3 females who will not run alone.
At my college I typically run during the day, but there are times where I'm wrapping up my runs at night. I heard from a female friend that it's nice to make a lot of noise when you're coming up behind, sort of yelling "behind" / "on your left" / "on your right", especially if you're in a relatively secluded area.
This. Heard this time and time again. Approaching anyone from behind when they might not hear you is always a bad decision.
The number of jokes on here are cause for concern but what can you expect with a website that does such a poor job on sensitive topics.
Best things I've read on this thread are to give a heads up when passing, to believe women when they talk about these types of things, and not to race women.
But the reality is that doesn't stop violence towards women so it's important to acknowledge that that is occurring, to not be defensive about it or make it about how men face violence too, and to support programs that work to dismantle gender biases. Men feel power over women. We need to untrain that.
Also I'm not trying to exude sexuality when I run it just happens... It's not like an in-your-face thing it's just a totally chill nonchalant vibe that you wouldn't really notice, but people kind of do... I guess I'm just trying to say I'm not like showing it off you know... Totally laid back... But still there... But not obvious... But clearly there
Wasn't this attack just like a random thing that had nothing to do with the woman being rich?
I mean wasn't this just some crazy guy who was out looking for anyone to abduct?
Anyway this thread is really dopey because why do you want to make people feel safer, wouldn't you want to make people in the world actually safer?
It's like you're almost asking how can we make people delusional or out of touch with reality?
That's how it seems, I wonder though. Who is the next in line for her money? Very possibly someone hired this criminal/scumbag to kidnap and kill her in order to inherit the huge sum themselves....it just seems too targeted to be random to me. I think it would be someone who knew that she normally goes out to run at a certain time in the morning. I hope the detectives look into this from this angle
Says the anonymous poster. The world is full of evil people that do evil things. Your fear of firearms doesn't change that reality. Sometimes the weak or outnumbered need a tool to even the odds.
Something I've been doing recently is escorting any female runner I see running alone in an isolated area. I don't do much I just kill my pace and hang 50-100m behind them. I get a bit closer when it's dark out since it's harder too make out details surrounding them.
The general crime stats I posted is evidence that women runners are safer. In particular, because the stats I looked at were in reference to attacks where the attacker was not known to the victim.
These are real world stats, which represent the real world. I don’t know why you want to believe women are more likely to be attacked, but all of the evidence suggests otherwise. You can go put your white amour away.
This is a ridiculous premise! You can't look at attacks in every situation and then assume that trend continues in every niche, like running, for example.
I did a search three ways. All three confirmed that women are attacked far more often than men.
First, I google searched for women attacked while running. I found pages of articles about women being attacked.
Next, I did a search for men attacked while running. The articles were overwhelmingly about women! I did find two stories about men in the first 20 pages, but otherwise the articles were about women. The story of Karnazes attack by a coyote appears a few times. (I'm aware that far more than two men have been attacked while running. I'm showing that the trend is far more attacks of women than of men.)
Finally, I did a search for runners killed why running. I found this list showing 14 women and 1 man.
So, this wikipedia article used to be super useful and have an exhaustive list of people killed while running. I am not really a wikipedia-editor, so I don't know much about it, but someone keeps reverting the article to a short list of 10 or so "notable" people killed while running. The original list is far more complete and useful:
People, primarily female, often report being harassed while running for exercise. Many of the harassment incidents and physical attacks happen during daylight hours. In one nine-day period in 2016, three women were murdered w...
I think that it is a cultural thing and that there are some segments of the population that devalue women--treating them as less than men. We must denormalize that. Nearly half the country voted for a guy who brazenly bragged that he grabs women by the crotch. That's simply not okay. There should be repercussions for such behavior. Support women in athletics, the sciences, and in business, or in whichever field they choose to pursue. Treat women as human first. Humans deserve the same basic respect no matter their gender or social status.
We need to teach both boys and girls to respect all humans. Children should learn to set healthy boundaries for themselves and to respect the boundaries of others--especially those who look or believe differently. If someone lives a life contrary to your beliefs, that's no excuse to dehumanize and bully them.
Out in public, a woman is best served to assume all males are a threat. Respect her space and let her be--especially if she's alone. Try to imagine the world through her eyes. If you're moved to approach a woman, do it respectfully in a safe setting with other people around and if she says "No", accept it and if she appears uncomfortable, politely excuse yourself and walk away.
Don't tolerate people treating women or others disrespectfully whether the affected person or people are present or not. Staying silent normalizes bad behavior.
Value the women in your life for more than their appearance or what they can do for you. Celebrate smart women, strong women, and women leaders. One of the great things about LetsRun is that this site recognizes women as athletes and celebrates their athletic achievements. It's a small but important thing.
Talk to women close to you about you concern for their safety and how you’re willing to help (share location, be on speed dial, run with them, bike alongside, etc) Make eye contact when passing Run without headphones so you’re more alert if someone is trying to call or signal for help Call out men when you see something that looks amiss (eg following) Donate to have call boxes or lights installed along running trails Leave porch lights on and security cameras in plain view Report petty crime If a woman looks hurt, drunk, etc offer to escort them to safety and if they refuse alert a police officer or another civilian of their location Encourage women to trust their gut and that you believe them, never down play concerns. Make sure they understand that trusting your gut has nothing to do with being racist Pay for a woman’s self defense classes or equipment (eg pepper spray) who cannot afford it Take care of the kids at bed time or for school pickup so she can get a run in during daylight Start a local running group Warn fellow runners if you see something that looks off or if you see a woman running alone in a location where it is risky. “Hey, you may want to be careful, I’ve seen some men who you may not want to run into alone on this trail.”
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