Doping in md and distance running was virtually non-existent in the early '60's. There was no EPO and blood doping was not known to occur in sports till the late '60's. It was mainly then believed to be skiers. The practice wasn't banned until the '80's. In the '70's Viren was rumoured to blood dope. We also know that doping in one form or another was state-sponsored in the E Bloc in that era. So, in answer to your question, the chances of Snell doping were virtually zero and in Walker's case in '76 it was unlikely. There have been no rumours about him.
By the '90's doping was rampant in all sports and was estimated to be up to 80% of athletes in many sports at the '96 Olympics. At the time, there was no test for EPO - which had been around since the late '80's.
My view is that doping has since become endemic and no athlete can now get to the top without it. So stand-out athletes today - of any nationality and not just Africa - are almost certainly on it.
So, if someone could run 1:44.3 on grass 60 years ago clean and someone else could run 4:51.4 46 years ago clean, then clearly all the times from El G, Bekele, Cheptegei, Gidey, Hassan, Kipyegon and so on also could be achieved clean. Stop calling any fast runner to be a doper without a positive test.
You're naive and know nothing about the prevalence of doping today. Only 1-2% of tests produce a positive yet confidential athlete surveys have indicated more than 40% of championship athletes are doping. It was estimated at 80% in some sports at the Atlanta Olympics. According to a former WADA head, only the "dumb and the careless get caught". You need to find another interest if you don't like the idea of doping in elite running.
You would call any African runner running today a similar time to John Walker's 4:51.4 over 2000m from 1976 to be a doper. Same for Peter Snell's 1:44.3 (can you find which distance without mentioning it?) from 1962 on a grass track.
Doping in md and distance running was virtually non-existent in the early '60's. There was no EPO and blood doping was not known to occur in sports till the late '60's. It was mainly then believed to be skiers. The practice wasn't banned until the '80's. In the '70's Viren was rumoured to blood dope. We also know that doping in one form or another was state-sponsored in the E Bloc in that era. So, in answer to your question, the chances of Snell doping were virtually zero and in Walker's case in '76 it was unlikely. There have been no rumours about him.
By the '90's doping was rampant in all sports and was estimated to be up to 80% of athletes in many sports at the '96 Olympics. At the time, there was no test for EPO - which had been around since the late '80's.
My view is that doping has since become endemic and no athlete can now get to the top without it. So stand-out athletes today - of any nationality and not just Africa - are almost certainly on it.
Again you need to be educated. Anabolic steroids and amphetamines were used widely by athletes, including middle distance runners, in the 1960s. You act as if the temptation and availability of PEDs is a recent phenomenon. You cannot be this naive or maybe you simply must worship your heroes? Grow up.
They weren't. Name a middle distance runner in the '60's who was busted for doping or even widely believed to have doped. Doping was in its infancy. Steroids built bulk - which is why they aided the power events but not stamina events like distance running. Amphetamines had begun to be used by cyclists but this was exceptional. Blood doping did not develop in sports till the 70's and EPO was not invented till the late eighties. You have simply projected the present back onto the past. You don't know what the '60's were like because you weren't there. I was.
CAN WE PLEASE BAN THIS MAN ALREADY? EVERY THREAD IS CONTAMINATED BY DOPING TALK.
Again you need to be educated. Anabolic steroids and amphetamines were used widely by athletes, including middle distance runners, in the 1960s. You act as if the temptation and availability of PEDs is a recent phenomenon. You cannot be this naive or maybe you simply must worship your heroes? Grow up.
They weren't. Name a middle distance runner in the '60's who was busted for doping or even widely believed to have doped. Doping was in its infancy. Steroids built bulk - which is why they aided the power events but not stamina events like distance running. Amphetamines had begun to be used by cyclists but this was exceptional. Blood doping did not develop in sports till the 70's and EPO was not invented till the late eighties. You have simply projected the present back onto the past. You don't know what the '60's were like because you weren't there. I was.
You were. And like today dopers are way ahead of testers, back then they were way ahead of public knowledge - that includes yours.
They weren't. Name a middle distance runner in the '60's who was busted for doping or even widely believed to have doped. Doping was in its infancy. Steroids built bulk - which is why they aided the power events but not stamina events like distance running. Amphetamines had begun to be used by cyclists but this was exceptional. Blood doping did not develop in sports till the 70's and EPO was not invented till the late eighties. You have simply projected the present back onto the past. You don't know what the '60's were like because you weren't there. I was.
CAN WE PLEASE BAN THIS MAN ALREADY? EVERY THREAD IS CONTAMINATED BY DOPING TALK.
They weren't. Name a middle distance runner in the '60's who was busted for doping or even widely believed to have doped. Doping was in its infancy. Steroids built bulk - which is why they aided the power events but not stamina events like distance running. Amphetamines had begun to be used by cyclists but this was exceptional. Blood doping did not develop in sports till the 70's and EPO was not invented till the late eighties. You have simply projected the present back onto the past. You don't know what the '60's were like because you weren't there. I was.
You were. And like today dopers are way ahead of testers, back then they were way ahead of public knowledge - that includes yours.
So you can't name a middle distance runner who was busted in the 60's or known to have doped. As I said - your argument is mere projection, without substantiation.
CAN WE PLEASE BAN THIS MAN ALREADY? EVERY THREAD IS CONTAMINATED BY DOPING TALK.
Yes, he has to be banned, but not because he talks about doping. He has to be banned because he fills the boards with post after post, usually with long, long nested series of quotations of previous posts above his new post, essentially spamming up the boards and usually completely off topic. There is never anything productive about these interchanges with his nemesis either.