Amazing championships. Munich is definitely worthy of WC.
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KennyShamrock wrote:
Is it just me, or does most every athlete seem way too preoccupied with their visage on the big screens/TV's? Is this a generation thing? Since Bolt's playing it up?
Not going to begrudge them... just seems odd to this old head.
Agreed and not everybody can pull off that kind of showmanship. The Spanish 800m runner, Garcia, and his "vroom vroom" motorcycle routine looked really over the top. Dude (Garcia), there's no need to do that - you're a good runner and you don't need to add anything.
Hughes of Great Britain is an example of modesty and self-effacement. No showing off from him and big respect in that regard.
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Netanyahole wrote:
moj wrote:
I don't think she was; there was no mention of 'running out of space' in the BBC studio. Richard Kilty's observation was that Phillips made an error in 'stopping' before the baton was firmly in Lansiquot's hand, and that if she'd continued running she could have had another attempt at handing over.
If you watch the race again in real time (not the replays, which give a shot from the front) there's a side view -- there's no way Philip is going to catch Lansiquot. Neither does Philip slow down. Lansiquot effed it.
The French leadoff runner is probably even more pissed than Asha.
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Ghost1 wrote:
10,000 m result
Well Ghost 1 , maybe you recogniced that someone find it funny to auto delete my two posts here about Riva and Schrub , and even auto deleted your post about Schrub and his interview? My posts here at LRC have been sabotaged like this for a couple of weeks now but I will contact the brojos to fix this to stop.
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Anybody know how Germany managed to snag the European Championships in 2018 and then again four years later? Seems rather odd.
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Netanyahole wrote:
If you watch the race again in real time (not the replays, which give a shot from the front) there's a side view -- there's no way Philip is going to catch Lansiquot. Neither does Philip slow down. Lansiquot effed it.
Will give it another watch but yeah, my initial reaction was Lansiquot went out too fast. I hope that's not the case: I'm very defensive of the girl, having been the first to spot her talent at my elder daughter's school sports day circa 2011*.
Still, she'll hopefully sleep better than the German second leg guy who forgot to run.
*I wasn't the first, but she and daughter were in the same class for seven years. Sadly I think she's going to wake up one morning and realise that she's Morgan Lake.
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moj wrote:
Netanyahole wrote:
If you watch the race again in real time (not the replays, which give a shot from the front) there's a side view -- there's no way Philip is going to catch Lansiquot. Neither does Philip slow down. Lansiquot effed it.
Will give it another watch but yeah, my initial reaction was Lansiquot went out too fast. I hope that's not the case: I'm very defensive of the girl, having been the first to spot her talent at my elder daughter's school sports day circa 2011*.
Still, she'll hopefully sleep better than the German second leg guy who forgot to run.
*I wasn't the first, but she and daughter were in the same class for seven years. Sadly I think she's going to wake up one morning and realise that she's Morgan Lake.
Sorry, meant no offense. She fell foul of one of the hazards of the event and wound up having a bad day. Happens all the time. I'm sure she'll bounce back.
That German guy looked asleep. Incoming runner wound up pushing him into the next lane over. Sort of thing you see in junior high.
Maybe Morgan Lake shouldn't be coached by her dad? At 25, she can still salvage her career or choose another path in life.
Oh, to be young again.
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Always the title threads are wrong on favorites.
From Worlds Athletics profil Garcia didn't made it to the final of Eugene 2022. He ranked 11 in the DL Rabat.
My pick for the 800m this year is this 23 aged Canadian
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hill_runner wrote:
African mercenaries 1st 2nd , who would've thought
Typical LRC Moran. Crippa and his brothers have been adopted by an Italian couple when he was 3.
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Ghost1 wrote:
Loppas wrote:
Zerei is age-cheating the opposite way so he can run in the world masters championships!
Very doubtful because in the world masters championships there's basically no money. Besides, Zerei comes from a rich country, Norway, in fact one of the richest in the world if not the richest, so I would be very surprised if he needed money, beyond his immediate needs and those of his family.
Yes, as I stated two posts later: it was a joke!🙂
But of course he needs money. He still goes to school to learn norwegian language and doesn't work. As a asylant in Norway, you don't get a lot of money. He gets covering the rent for for a flat, and an amount to cover basic needs, and not much more.
A couple of years ago he wanted to begin working as a taxi driver full time. But luckily his coach convinced him to go all inn with the running!
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Loppas wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
Very doubtful because in the world masters championships there's basically no money. Besides, Zerei comes from a rich country, Norway, in fact one of the richest in the world if not the richest, so I would be very surprised if he needed money, beyond his immediate needs and those of his family.
Yes, as I stated two posts later: it was a joke!🙂
But of course he needs money. He still goes to school to learn norwegian language and doesn't work. As a asylant in Norway, you don't get a lot of money. He gets covering the rent for for a flat, and an amount to cover basic needs, and not much more.
A couple of years ago he wanted to begin working as a taxi driver full time. But luckily his coach convinced him to go all inn with the running!
That is interesting. If you have any more information about this runner and his background please post here. Thank you.
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Ghost1 wrote:
Loppas wrote:
Yes, as I stated two posts later: it was a joke!🙂
But of course he needs money. He still goes to school to learn norwegian language and doesn't work. As a asylant in Norway, you don't get a lot of money. He gets covering the rent for for a flat, and an amount to cover basic needs, and not much more.
A couple of years ago he wanted to begin working as a taxi driver full time. But luckily his coach convinced him to go all inn with the running!
That is interesting. If you have any more information about this runner and his background please post here. Thank you.
He served several years in the eritrean army, and managed to escape. He hid in the top of a tree and managed to flea in the dark! Eventually he got to Europe and Norway and applied for an adylum here. In ca. 2012, I guess. He was first sent quite north while he waited for the reply. There he took up running. He had done some running in Eritrea earlier in his life. In about 2015 he moved to Stavanger on the south west coast, ca. 15 km from Sandnes (Ingebrigtsen-land), and have stayed there since.
His capacity have steadily improved, with some minor setbacks, injured last winter when training on the icy roads and covid later. So this year has not really been so good.
He seems like a guy who should focus on the roads. 27,39 on 10 k in Valencia (winner) and 60,07 in half marathon shows great potential in longer distances.
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moj wrote:
Netanyahole wrote:
If you watch the race again in real time (not the replays, which give a shot from the front) there's a side view -- there's no way Philip is going to catch Lansiquot. Neither does Philip slow down. Lansiquot effed it.
Will give it another watch but yeah, my initial reaction was Lansiquot went out too fast. I hope that's not the case: I'm very defensive of the girl, having been the first to spot her talent at my elder daughter's school sports day circa 2011*.
Still, she'll hopefully sleep better than the German second leg guy who forgot to run.
*I wasn't the first, but she and daughter were in the same class for seven years. Sadly I think she's going to wake up one morning and realise that she's Morgan Lake.
DLed BBC coverage of the meet, which shows in pretty good detail the botched exchange -- the YT stream I was watching does not.
To me, it looks like Lansiquot not only left early, but also took it out too fast, leaving Philip with just the one chance to pass the stick, well into the zone. Philip hits Lansiquot's hand, which, for some reason, she does not close. Contrary to what Kilty says, Philip does not have enough zone left to "re-punch the baton."
Very weird, all three studio commentators trying to dump it on Philip when Lansiquot is the one who blew it, in my view.
Also saw the Morgan Lake interview, which was just heartbreaking. Poor girl. I hope she re-dedicates herself and enjoys a career upswing.
Is Ashleigh Nelson the best-looking woman in UK Athletics? She just might be.30 -
Ghost1 wrote:
Agreed and not everybody can pull off that kind of showmanship. The Spanish 800m runner, Garcia, and his "vroom vroom" motorcycle routine looked really over the top. Dude (Garcia), there's no need to do that - you're a good runner and you don't need to add anything.
He is looking for a motorcycle company as a sponsor. So is Twanisha Terry.
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Loppas wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
That is interesting. If you have any more information about this runner and his background please post here. Thank you.
He served several years in the eritrean army, and managed to escape. He hid in the top of a tree and managed to flea in the dark! Eventually he got to Europe and Norway and applied for an adylum here. In ca. 2012, I guess. He was first sent quite north while he waited for the reply. There he took up running. He had done some running in Eritrea earlier in his life. In about 2015 he moved to Stavanger on the south west coast, ca. 15 km from Sandnes (Ingebrigtsen-land), and have stayed there since.
His capacity have steadily improved, with some minor setbacks, injured last winter when training on the icy roads and covid later. So this year has not really been so good.
He seems like a guy who should focus on the roads. 27,39 on 10 k in Valencia (winner) and 60,07 in half marathon shows great potential in longer distances.
Fascinating stuff and thank you for the post. The first time I noticed this Norwegian was when he won a 10,000 m race in Norway, 2 years ago? which had ostensibly been set up to help a triathlete, Blum, to run under 28 minutes! in the end the triathlete got nowhere near his goal but the winner of that race was Mezngi. I noticed him because he has such an economical deceptive style - running fast but not giving the impression of running fast, and that to me is really high class and as you say that type of style with his low knee lift and economy would be ideally suited to the road so I see him, if time permits, and mileage permits, to eventually run a very fast marathon. 60:00 would logically convert to around 205 Marathon if I’m not mistaken.
If his age is really 36 and I’m not doubting it - then time is not on his side so his window is rather short but fortunately he started athletics late so he may continue running well until his early 40s in theory.
Many Kenyans told me that E. Kipchoge is really around 45 to 50 years old. Whether you believe that or not is a different matter.
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Ghost1 wrote:
Loppas wrote:
He served several years in the eritrean army, and managed to escape. He hid in the top of a tree and managed to flea in the dark! Eventually he got to Europe and Norway and applied for an adylum here. In ca. 2012, I guess. He was first sent quite north while he waited for the reply. There he took up running. He had done some running in Eritrea earlier in his life. In about 2015 he moved to Stavanger on the south west coast, ca. 15 km from Sandnes (Ingebrigtsen-land), and have stayed there since.
His capacity have steadily improved, with some minor setbacks, injured last winter when training on the icy roads and covid later. So this year has not really been so good.
He seems like a guy who should focus on the roads. 27,39 on 10 k in Valencia (winner) and 60,07 in half marathon shows great potential in longer distances.
Fascinating stuff and thank you for the post. The first time I noticed this Norwegian was when he won a 10,000 m race in Norway, 2 years ago? which had ostensibly been set up to help a triathlete, Blum, to run under 28 minutes! in the end the triathlete got nowhere near his goal but the winner of that race was Mezngi. I noticed him because he has such an economical deceptive style - running fast but not giving the impression of running fast, and that to me is really high class and as you say that type of style with his low knee lift and economy would be ideally suited to the road so I see him, if time permits, and mileage permits, to eventually run a very fast marathon. 60:00 would logically convert to around 205 Marathon if I’m not mistaken.
If his age is really 36 and I’m not doubting it - then time is not on his side so his window is rather short but fortunately he started athletics late so he may continue running well until his early 40s in theory.
Many Kenyans told me that E. Kipchoge is really around 45 to 50 years old. Whether you believe that or not is a different matter.
correction the triathletes from Norway attempted to go under 2824 10,000 m not 28 minutes. Sorry for the slight inaccuracy.
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Notice in the video how easy Mezngi moves and he looks like he’s basically jogging. You look at the guy in last place in that leading group, the blonde haired chap, and it looks like he’s sprinting to keep up with the group such as his stride cadence. Mezngi is economy of motion personified. I think he also ran that 10 km on the road which Jakob and Kilian ran in.
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Yep, that sounds about right. They only gave themselves the one shot at it. Philip initially seemed a little hesitant with her presentation, but I've no idea why Lansiquot didn't grasp the baton when it finally came.
I wonder if they were subconsciously trying too hard to compensate for the absence of Neita? They ran 41.99 in Oregon with Nelson>Neita; with Asher-Smith>Neita they had to be favourites here, but once Neita went home they no longer had the luxury of 'safe' changes.
The speed (if not positioning) of that first exchange was god-tier had Lansiquot actually taken the baton :-)
Re Lake, it must be so frustrating to be a phenomenal athlete from the age of 10-11, including two U20 World golds at 17, and then not 'kick on'. I think high jump (and polevault) must give you such a 'slow death', too: sitting there championship after championship after your elimination, watching the medal contenders clear heights you *know* you're incapable of.
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Ghost1 wrote:
Agreed and not everybody can pull off that kind of showmanship. The Spanish 800m runner, Garcia, and his "vroom vroom" motorcycle routine looked really over the top. Dude (Garcia), there's no need to do that - you're a good runner and you don't need to add anything.
Hughes of Great Britain is an example of modesty and self-effacement. No showing off from him and big respect in that regard.
Garcia always does this. He did this ahead of the World Indoors earlier this year, which he won.
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