Oh well, must be a different "Young Men's Christian Association"
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The 80 year old sounds like a perf . watching somebody long enough to notice who that person is looking at is invasive in itself . But to be fair to the 80 year old it was probably the first time she had seen a penis in a very long time.
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Donald Trump found a way to ogle naked teen girls without claiming to be trans. . Of course not everyone can follow his example. Here is what he said on the Howard Stern show in 2005 about the Miss Teen USA pageant.
"Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed, and ready and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good.
"You know, the dresses. 'Is everyone okay?' You know, they're standing there with no clothes. 'Is everybody okay?' And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good."It boggles the mind that conservatives didn't puke when they heard he said that. Let alone when they saw videos of him boasting about being able to grab women's p******.
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thislilguyisquick wrote:
The 80 year old sounds like a perf . watching somebody long enough to notice who that person is looking at is invasive in itself . But to be fair to the 80 year old it was probably the first time she had seen a penis in a very long time.
To be fair also, it is really difficult not to look at a penis dangling bare, irrespective of sexuality, probably some combination of animalistic sizing-up-the-other and the perverse economics of curtailed visual supply via modesty artificially increasing demand; irrespective even of age like even if it’s a little naked boy; and irrespective even of whether it’s a living form like a male statue of any depicted age with a dangle on display.
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carmine9 wrote:
Ex L wrote:
I did not call her a liar.
In fact, I said that if what she said is true, it should be addressed.
You. You are a liar. I have seen you lie many times on this site.
The old lady may have misconstrued something or in fact, maybe she was absolutely right. That should be looked into.
I see.
She is old and may have "miscontrued something".
Got it.
List some of the many lies I have told on this site or be decent enuff to apologize
I’m calling her a possible liar. There are conflicting reports about this, some which claim she was a nuisance way before this.
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Plot twist: The transexual is the old lady and she was screaming a conversation at herself in a mirror. "Do you have a penis?!" "None of your business!" "Then get out!"
and then as others ran from the locker room she smiled at herself and slowly backed into the shower softly singing YMCA. Oh and she looks like Ted Levine.
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Let's say I'm born male, 6'4" 230 and mid 50s. To prove a point and explore my feminine side, can I crash the ymca women's locker room in a two piece bikini? Would anyone look twice it being Washington and all? Is there a time limit on how long I can literally hang out in the women's locker room?
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The LRC considers Marjorie Taylor Greene tweets a reliable news source, right?
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OP here. I try to be a straight shooter so I've done some research. The staff claims there is more to this story.
But bosses at the facility see it differently - and have explained Jaman's barring as the culmination of a series of incidents where she 'violated the facility's code of conduct' and was not solely due to this specific incident.
'Julie Jaman was permanently suspended from the Mountain View Pool due to her repeatedly violating our Code of Conduct, specifically, using disrespectful words or gestures toward YMCA staff or others; abusive, harassing and/or obscene language or gestures toward YMCA staff or others,' Erin Hawkins, communications manager for the Olympic Peninsula YMCA, said to Fox News.Of course, who knows if that's true. The trans woman in the bathroom actually was employee and she's trying to raise 25k off of this incident for bottom surgery and other things. I will admit, I at least respect the trans people who go through with the surgery. The rest are total fakers.
Article include pics:
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working_dc_runnermom wrote:
OP here. I try to be a straight shooter so I've done some research. The staff claims there is more to this story.
But bosses at the facility see it differently - and have explained Jaman's barring as the culmination of a series of incidents where she 'violated the facility's code of conduct' and was not solely due to this specific incident.
'Julie Jaman was permanently suspended from the Mountain View Pool due to her repeatedly violating our Code of Conduct, specifically, using disrespectful words or gestures toward YMCA staff or others; abusive, harassing and/or obscene language or gestures toward YMCA staff or others,' Erin Hawkins, communications manager for the Olympic Peninsula YMCA, said to Fox News.
Of course, who knows if that's true. The trans woman in the bathroom actually was employee and she's trying to raise 25k off of this incident for bottom surgery and other things. I will admit, I at least respect the trans people who go through with the surgery. The rest are total fakers.
Article include pics:
yeah, bro, just mutilate yourself. SO COOl!!!
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working_dc_runnermom wrote:
OP here. I try to be a straight shooter so I've done some research.
and quotes the dm. sheesh. must be a us phd.
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working_dc_runnermom wrote:
OP here. I try to be a straight shooter so I've done some research. The staff claims there is more to this story.
But bosses at the facility see it differently - and have explained Jaman's barring as the culmination of a series of incidents where she 'violated the facility's code of conduct' and was not solely due to this specific incident.
'Julie Jaman was permanently suspended from the Mountain View Pool due to her repeatedly violating our Code of Conduct, specifically, using disrespectful words or gestures toward YMCA staff or others; abusive, harassing and/or obscene language or gestures toward YMCA staff or others,' Erin Hawkins, communications manager for the Olympic Peninsula YMCA, said to Fox News.
Of course, who knows if that's true. The trans woman in the bathroom actually was employee and she's trying to raise 25k off of this incident for bottom surgery and other things. I will admit, I at least respect the trans people who go through with the surgery. The rest are total fakers.
Article include pics:
I found the initial story very hard to believe. Having worked at a pool in the past the only way you get banned is by assaulting someone or getting caught using needles.
An 80 year old woman would never get banned for asking someone that is trans if they have a penis. 80 year olds are treated like 3 year olds, meaning they can get away with a lot since we all know they ain't woke and have much less of a filter.
I would be exceptionally surprised if this lady hadn't been a nuisance for a long time and this final grandstanding sealed the deal.
I think the employee would get more satisfaction in the long run if she saved up the money for the operation on her own. Willpower and persistence are the ultimate gofundme.
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working_dc_runnermom wrote:
OP here. I try to be a straight shooter so I've done some research. The staff claims there is more to this story.
But bosses at the facility see it differently - and have explained Jaman's barring as the culmination of a series of incidents where she 'violated the facility's code of conduct' and was not solely due to this specific incident.
'Julie Jaman was permanently suspended from the Mountain View Pool due to her repeatedly violating our Code of Conduct, specifically, using disrespectful words or gestures toward YMCA staff or others; abusive, harassing and/or obscene language or gestures toward YMCA staff or others,' Erin Hawkins, communications manager for the Olympic Peninsula YMCA, said to Fox News.
Of course, who knows if that's true. The trans woman in the bathroom actually was employee and she's trying to raise 25k off of this incident for bottom surgery and other things. I will admit, I at least respect the trans people who go through with the surgery. The rest are total fakers.
Article include pics:
It's a different story to which has been presented originally. This thread is full of the usual anti-transgender talking points about predatory men with naked penises in the shower making children uncomfortable. It's the same rhetoric that was directed towards gay men a generation ago.
Turns out this trans person is a member of staff and was clothed and accesses the men's and women's changing rooms as part of her job. All pools routinely monitor the changing rooms for cleaning and safety and duties are carried out by both men and women.
Also, the pool doesn't actually have communal showers as evidenced by the complainants description of events.
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HmmmmLetsSee wrote:
RunRagged wrote:
Many on the so-called "left" today only give lip service to supporting the right to privacy when it comes to abortion because abortion is something men benefit from.
Just as many on today's "left" say that "diversity and inclusion" means persons with testes and/or penises and male sports advantage must be allowed to engage and compete in women's and girls' sports if they demand it, many on the left today also believe female people in countries like the USA, Canada, UK and Ireland do not have - and should not have - any right to any single sex facilities or services where we can be assured of safety, privacy, dignity, comfort and freedom from "the male gaze" when were are in situations outside our homes where we are undressed, naked or semi-naked and thus especially vulnerable to male sexual predation, prying, perving, harassment and assault.
The standard view of the "left" today is that males who claim to "identify as" the opposite sex should have unfettered access to all spaces and services set up to provide female people with privacy, dignity, safety and comfort outside the home - be they locker rooms; communal toilets, showers and spa facilities; retail store fitting rooms; workplace dressing rooms and showers; rape crisis centers; homeless shelters; refuges for victims of domestic violence/intimate partner violence; school dorms; sleep-away camp bunk houses; hostels; health care facilities including nursing home accommodations for elderly women; gathering spaces for lesbians; workplace lactation rooms; prisons and jails; group homes for at-risk teenagers; and care facilities, long-term residences and hospital wards for girls and women whose severe physical disabilities, learning disabilities and/or mental health illnesses make them sitting ducks for abuse.
Moreover, the standard view on the "left" today is that males should be given unfettered access to spaces where females are physically most exposed and vulnerable to untoward behaviors by males just because some males want and demand it - and based solely on males saying they now "identify as" women or girls themselves.
When actual girls and women dare to object and point out all the reasons why we are not comfortable with the new policies and dogma of male intrusion and dominance posing as inclusion and diversity, then men and some women on today's supposed "left" slag us off as right-wing bigots, haters, pearl-clutchers, prudes, TERFs, old-fashioned fuddy duddies, "old bxnts," conservative nutters and other words I can't share here.
Just watch: soon enough a LRC poster on "the left" who considers himself a brogressive paragon of virtue and forward-thinking will come along and call me a bunch of misogynistic names whilst finger-wagging that any laws, policies and social customs which provide female human beings with spaces and services that allow us to have privacy, dignity and safety outside our homes are now outmoded and hateful.
There's an old saying that's never been truer in the past than it is today in 2022: the right see women and girls as private property; the left see women and girls as public property.
The disregard for the human rights of women and girls seen on the left today - and the contempt many on the left have for us that causes them to call us newfangled names dripping with misogynylike menstruators, vagina havers, pregnancy carriers,birthing bodies, milk producers and cisters - is why so many women who have been on the left all our lives are now politically homeless. And it's why so many women are mighty pissed off too.
What a load of malarkey!
Roe gets overturned and women lose the right to abortion in multiple states overnight, including blanket bans, and you somehow believe that women should actually be most angry about TERF issues? Are you insane?
I can promise you that women ARE pissed off right now, and almost NONE of them are pissed about the relatively rare transgender intersection with their personal lives. MANY of them are in a quite rage about the removal of abortion rights.
TERFs are a tiny minority of women, most of whom hold compassion and acceptance toward the trans among us. Having been a TERF will not age well years down the road.
It is impossible to codify any rights for girls and women if our institutions can no longer define sex.
You might be correct that many women are more angry about Roe than policies that recast sex-based rights as gender identity-based rights, but I don't think they fully understand the ramifications of gender identity-based policies. Most women faced with the actual consequences of such policies in real life are very angry.
The most disturbing thing is this: trans advocacy is not about protecting trans people (how should we define this category) from discrimination, it's about ignoring science and defining sex out of existence. The real, horrific end goal of some advocates is transhumanism. In actuality, this would amount to a billionaire-owned transhuman metaverse. Call me a Luddite, but I want to live freely as a human being in my natural body.
In the short run, girls and women are faced with the intrusion of psychosexual predators into formerly sex-segregated spaces. Some of the virtue-signaling "progressives" will pretend that there's no danger and that women in favor of sex-based rights are simply hating on feminine males who only want to live their lives in a way that feels authentic to them. Obviously these males exist (no, they're not females no matter how female-typical their personalities), but there are also deeply disturbed males whose female identification is sadistic and predatory. Denis Rader, the BTK serial killer from Kansas, literally said that he feels like he is part female. He privately dressed as a woman to pose for bondage photos to satisfy his sadistic sexual urges, then moved on to binding and killing actual women and their families. He had to do all this privately in 1970s and 80s Kansas, but you're fooling yourself if you think men with similar pathologies today will not take advantage of the "inclusive" social policies meant for people who don't pose a threat. And here's the key: women have no way of differentiating between these two types of men.
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It used to be normal for communal showering 30-40 years ago. Saw plenty of older dudes junk as a young teen. Now I'm an older dude with the same sagging body parts. It is our destructive society that made this not normal due to our collective "pedo around every corner" outlook.
Got news for everyone, they were always there before.
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Tatar... wrote:
working_dc_runnermom wrote:
OP here. I try to be a straight shooter so I've done some research. The staff claims there is more to this story.
But bosses at the facility see it differently - and have explained Jaman's barring as the culmination of a series of incidents where she 'violated the facility's code of conduct' and was not solely due to this specific incident.
'Julie Jaman was permanently suspended from the Mountain View Pool due to her repeatedly violating our Code of Conduct, specifically, using disrespectful words or gestures toward YMCA staff or others; abusive, harassing and/or obscene language or gestures toward YMCA staff or others,' Erin Hawkins, communications manager for the Olympic Peninsula YMCA, said to Fox News.
Of course, who knows if that's true. The trans woman in the bathroom actually was employee and she's trying to raise 25k off of this incident for bottom surgery and other things. I will admit, I at least respect the trans people who go through with the surgery. The rest are total fakers.
Article include pics:
It's a different story to which has been presented originally. This thread is full of the usual anti-transgender talking points about predatory men with naked penises in the shower making children uncomfortable. It's the same rhetoric that was directed towards gay men a generation ago.
Turns out this trans person is a member of staff and was clothed and accesses the men's and women's changing rooms as part of her job. All pools routinely monitor the changing rooms for cleaning and safety and duties are carried out by both men and women.
Also, the pool doesn't actually have communal showers as evidenced by the complainants description of events.
And this thread also contains the usual Tatar comment defending men invading women's spaces, showing little girls their dicks in the name of fighting against "anti-transgenders." So woke, way to stick it to the patriarchy. As a horny guy who wants to be allowed to see more boobies, I applaud you fighting the good fight for us.
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GD wrote:
The most disturbing thing is this: trans advocacy is not about protecting trans people (how should we define this category) from discrimination, it's about ignoring science and defining sex out of existence. The real, horrific end goal of some advocates is transhumanism. In actuality, this would amount to a billionaire-owned transhuman metaverse. Call me a Luddite, but I want to live freely as a human being in my natural body.
In the short run, girls and women are faced with the intrusion of psychosexual predators into formerly sex-segregated spaces. Some of the virtue-signaling "progressives" will pretend that there's no danger and that women in favor of sex-based rights are simply hating on feminine males who only want to live their lives in a way that feels authentic to them. Obviously these males exist (no, they're not females no matter how female-typical their personalities), but there are also deeply disturbed males whose female identification is sadistic and predatory. Denis Rader, the BTK serial killer from Kansas, literally said that he feels like he is part female. He privately dressed as a woman to pose for bondage photos to satisfy his sadistic sexual urges, then moved on to binding and killing actual women and their families. He had to do all this privately in 1970s and 80s Kansas, but you're fooling yourself if you think men with similar pathologies today will not take advantage of the "inclusive" social policies meant for people who don't pose a threat. And here's the key: women have no way of differentiating between these two types of men.
What if it's got nothing to do with the forthcoming transhuman metaverse, psychosexual predators or BDSM serial killers from the 70s? What if it's just trans people wanting to pee without being harassed?
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