GRANT FISHER WAS ROBBED

I felt like Krop got in front of him unintentionally while slowing down and Grant speeding up. I think he would’ve even challenged or come closer to Jakob with the kind of pace he was going at. Very unfortunate!

Robbed?

Why, did someone steal his last place trophy from him as he walked away from the stadium after tripping on the rail?

Krop didn't have inside position, he was trying to get outside Ingebrigtsen to sprint from there, but Ingebrigtsen pulled away so Krop went to the rail. His first step at rail position is where Fisher checked up. Krop impeded him, but I don't think it was DQ-worthy, he appeard to have some room. Fisher should have anticipated him sliding in and should have adjusted, but he was starting his sprint and didn't give himself a choice.

I don't know why people are complaining about Fisher's tactics, he was in a perfect position until he reacted poorly to Krop's move.

Jerk comments from you throughout this post.

my heart goes out to Fisher.

He was robbed.

Krop ran dirty and Mo (unintentionally) may have clipped him.

Fisher was in his windup and would have had a medal.

His future is bright. Medals will come.

A couple of real race competition experience after Tokyo would have made the difference. Invested mostly in speed and times. It's not enough for real racing. Hope he goes to some of these:

Monaco
10th August 2022
Lausanne
26th August 2022
Brussels
2nd September 2022
Zurich
7th - 8th September 2022

This is exactly what happened. TLDR; Krop cut Fisher off, which forced him to slow/hit the rail.

Disappointed the race recap from LR doesn't mention this at all and just says he tripped on the rail on his own.

I've watched the reply at least a dozen times, and at super slow speed. While it's still not certain exactly what happened, this what I see.

1) I did not see Fisher step on the rail,. At least not before he started flailing.

2) I did not see contact with Mo. At least not before he started flailing.

3) I see Krop almost in lane 2.

4) I see Fisher almost on the rail.

5) I see Jakob start to pull away and Krop start to move back in.

6) Krop only had about 1/2 step on Fisher and Fisher was moving slightly faster.

7) Fisher starting running up on Krop and running out of room.

8) Fisher tries to chop his stride. He might be worried about hitting the rail. He's already going into a flail.

9) He might have slightly knocked the rail at this point. Impossible to tell. However, it was after the fact.

Basically, he ran out of room. Should Krop have moved as far over as he did. No. Was it egregious. No. There are running all out at the end of a 5k. It's packed. The blame is probably equally spread to Krop and Fisher. Fisher tactically put himself in a box. Krop moved over when he did not have sufficient room to do so (but this happens all the time).

It's wise to run on the rail during the race. It wise to run on the outside on the last lap, unless you are in the lead.

Watched the race again and I think Fisher was just past his limit and lost co-ordination. Look at the strain in his face over that last lap compared to Jakob who was absolutely cruising even though he was running 53. Fisher was working crazy hard and screwed up. I still give him credit for getting in there, he found his limit which is a positive to take from the race as he knows what he needs to do to get closer to Jakob next year.

Watched to video carefully and can't say for sure what happened. What I can say is Grant was flat out coming off the turn, he still had about 80 meters to go and I don't think he had another gear. I would give him only a 50 percent chance of medaling either way.

I guarantee Fisher would NOT have medaled in that race, because he had no fight left in him when he stumbled.

He didn't fall or lose a lot of momentum. He was modestly interfered, not fouled. We've seen athletes suffer far more interference, keep going, and shift gears to pass a few runners. The field was really cranking fast and he needed another gear that he just did not have. He gave up for the moment, then got back going, but not with the shift of gears he needed to medal, because he did not have it at the moment it was needed.

He's a bright, young runner who has found success at every level. We will see Fisher on an Oly/WC medal stand before he's done.

This is pretty much 100% correct. But, I don't think Fisher ever stepped on the rail. I watched it several times and never once saw him step on the rail. It is possible, but I don't think he did. He stumbled because Krop cut him off while Fisher was fully sprinting and Grant had to check his stride to keep from running into the back of Krop.

I mostly agree with that , but I think krop's move was at least very very close to a dq-able offense. He certainly impeded Fisher.

And yes Fisher was in a great spot. He just did not anticipate getting cut off. Maybe he could have slightly surged to keep Krop out.

Did they protest? Or did they not bother since DQing Krop would not have moved either Grant or Mo into medal position?

I agree that he kind of gave up. However, I disagree that it was a modest interference. Especially at top speed. He completely lost momentum. Imagine running around 12.5 to 13.0 speed for 100m. Stumble. Feel like you might go down. Start getting passed, then pick it back up. Earlier in the last lap, yeah, but right there. No way. After that he was not going to medal. 5th at best. Or maybe he holds off Grijalva for 4th, but I doubt it. Grijalva was flying, and Fisher had to re-pass Mo first.

If this had not happened? Who knows. To me he looked pretty strong. He was moving faster (at that moment) than Krop. Could he have passed him and held him off? Maybe. Or maybe he'd tank like Mo. We'll never know. I think he had a real chance, but we will never know how much he really had left.

I agree it's almost 100% correct except for the part about Krop and Fisher being equally blameworthy. There is no blame to assign to Fisher. He simply got cut off. There's really not much he could have done. What was he supposed to have done? Jam on the brakes, cut laterally right in front of Mo and then surge around Krop? That's a more likely collision 💥 waiting to happen.

As I said earlier the one thing he could have done was try and surge to keep Krop out, and maybe Heisman him out of his lane. But that's an awfully tough ask when you're already going 100% all out in the final 100 m of a 5k World Championship race

I will add, though, that Fisher did fall back to around 8th (I think) and he did fight back to 6th. So we was able to pick it back up. This, to me, seems like he was not dying. He was able to fight back some.

Now, we did not see that. It could be the 2 he re-passed gave up.

This. While Fisher may have been impeded and cut off, the other guys were all running faster than him at that time anyways. He wasn't going to medal, so can't really say he got robbed. He might have finished a place or two higher, but since he wouldn't have medaled anyways it doesn't matter.

Fisher ran up too close to Krop and had to put the brakes on, it was his own fault. There was no contact with Mo Ahmed or Krop. Fisher should have pulled out and tried to win the race. Instead, he sat on that rail the entire time. What did he think, he was going to win that way? Sooner or later you have to show your cards. As usual, he found a way not to get a medal. What he most needs is to spend time with a sports psychologist to change his thinking about himself, that he CAN win these races.

Blame shared for sure, but no way a DQ is in order. Grant put himself in a bad position there with guys sprinting behind and to his side, running full out for their professional lives. Inexperience in a tight WC Final. I am sad for him as well, but many people are sad for a variety of other runners who also did not medal. He ran great, and under best scenerio, not at all sure he would have medaled.

Grant Fisher was going to medal. He raced the way more American men should. He got up front and stayed in the mix. I really like his style. Looking forward to more of his racing style. He doesn't seem to have put a limit on himself the way he races. Go team Fisher!!!