Read these lyrics. Do they do nothing for you? Do they not make you reflect and feel? The storytelling in this song alone is already leagues above most other songs in other genres can produce. If you don't think so, then post what you got.
Keisha's Song - Kendrick Lamar
Fancy girls on Long Beach Boulevard Flagging down all of these flashy cars
And Lord knows she's beautiful Lord knows the usuals, leaving her body sore She take the little change she make to fix her nail cuticles Lipstick is suitable to make you fiend for more She play Mr. Shakur, that's her favorite rapper Bumping "Brenda's Got a Baby" while a pervert yelling at her And she capture features of a woman, but only 17 The 7 cars start honking, she start running like Flo-Jo Don't care if they Joe Blow If they got money to blow a bl0w job is a sure go And sure enough don't see a dime of dirty dollars Just give it all to her daddy but she don't know her father, that's ironic See a block away from Lueders Park, I seen the El Camino parked And in her heart she hate it there, but in her mind she made it where Nothing really matters, so she hit the back seat Rosa Parks never a factor when she making ends meet
Fancy girls on Long Beach Boulevard Flagging down all of these flashy cars
And Lord knows she's beautiful Lord knows the usuals, leaving a body sore Her anatomy is God's temple And it's quite simple, her castle is 'bout to be destroyed She's always paranoid, watching the law inside the streets Undercovers the dummies that look like decoys Remember the sergeant let her slide, said if he seen What's between her thighs he'd compromise, to no surprise She took the ultimatum 'round the alleyway and gave him A warm welcome that filled him right below the navel Though he was wired up like a pair of jumping cables His eyes was closed shut, prior charges, he had waived 'em It was a block away from Lueders Park, I seen a squad car parked And in her heart, she hate it there but in her mind, she made it where Nothing really matters, so she hit the back seat Cause Rosa Parks never a factor when she topping off police
Fancy girls on Long Beach Boulevard Flagging down all of these flashy cars
And Lord knows she's beautiful Lord knows the usuals, leaving a body sore As she bust down like a 12 bunk on tour She suddenly realized, she'll never escape the allure Of a black man, white man, needing satisfaction At first, it became a practice, but now she's numb to it Sometimes she wonder if she can do it like nuns do it But she never heard of Catholic religion or sinners' redemption That sounds foolish, and you can blame it on her mother For letting her boyfriend slide candy under her cover Ten months before she was ten he moved in and that's when he touched her This mothafvcka is the fvcking reason why Keisha rushing through that Block away from Lueders Park, I seen the El Camino park And in her heart she hate it there but in her mind, she made it where Nothing really matters, still she hit the back seat And caught a knife inside the bladder, left for dead, raped in the street Keisha's song
My little sister eleven, I looked her right in the face The day that I wrote this song, set her down and pressed play
Fancy girls on Long Beach Boulevard Flagging down all of these flashy cars
Fancy girls on Long Beach Boulevard Flagging down all of those flashy cars
Oh what great lyrics! Joe blow and blow jobs. So deep
I know you're not the one to talk about lyrics, lmao! No one is trying to hear your "I like people screaming in my ear" a$$. Darkthrone, huh? Is this one their songs? I know you're a troll when you deliberately put things out of context to serve your point.
Transilvanian Hunger - Darkthrone
Transilvanian Hunger...cold..soul Your hands are cruel...to haunt..to haunt
the mountains are cold...soul...soul... careful..pale...forever at Night
Take me...can't you feel the Call Embrace Me Eternally in your daylight slumber
To be Draped by the Shadow of your Morbid Palace oh, Hate Living...The only heat is warm blood
So Pure... So Cold Transilvanian Hunger
Hail to the True, intense vampires A story made for Divine fulfillment
To be the ones breathing a Wind of Sorrow Sorrow and fright the dearest catharsis
Beautiful Evil Self to be the Morbid Count A part of a Pact that is delightfully immortal
[scream] Feel the call freeze you with the uppermost desire Transilvanian Hunger...my mountain is cold
[scream]
So Pure... Evil, Cold Transilvanian Hunger [Lyrics by Fenriz (1992)]
Yes, rapping is not music. ANYTHING you do that is NOT musical is not music. Music MUST include one of the 12 unique notes or combination of them into chords or power chords. So, do I consider drummers to be "musicians?" No. They are percussionists who support musicians.
I feel like you're just trolling at this point. Most people would consider drummers musicians. Rhythm is an integral component of music; you can't exclude it from the definition just because it doesn't involve notes. I've provided multiple example of songs where rapping is intermixed with singing to the point that it makes no sense to try to separate the two; they are both musical expressions.
Political? I can't speak for Pig Man, but you described your dislike for Kendrick Lamar by saying "Kendrick 'imma rap about the ghetto' Lamar." I think we addressed this as tone death and you switched up your words - cool. I injected Shapiro bc you guys literally sound like him when it comes to describing hip hop as not music. It was a completely relevant and appropriate comparison. Nuance, try it some time.
It certainly wasn’t tone deaf. I’ll double down and say it again: Kendrick is a wannabe thug who can only rap about his “culture.” Nothing we said was political until you and pig man tried.
and you can keep repeating the tired lie about hip hop having the deepest lyrics but no one is buying it.
My bad, you're right, you're not tone death. You knew exactly what you were insinuating when you worded "Kendrick 'imma rap about the ghetto' Lamar." Gotcha, I know who I'm talking with now. I'll move on...
Oh what great lyrics! Joe blow and blow jobs. So deep
I know you're not the one to talk about lyrics, lmao! No one is trying to hear your "I like people screaming in my ear" a$. Darkthrone, huh? Is this one their songs? I know you're a troll when you deliberately put things out of context to serve your point.
Transilvanian Hunger - Darkthrone
Transilvanian Hunger...cold..soul Your hands are cruel...to haunt..to haunt
the mountains are cold...soul...soul... careful..pale...forever at Night
Take me...can't you feel the Call Embrace Me Eternally in your daylight slumber
To be Draped by the Shadow of your Morbid Palace oh, Hate Living...The only heat is warm blood
So Pure... So Cold Transilvanian Hunger
Hail to the True, intense vampires A story made for Divine fulfillment
To be the ones breathing a Wind of Sorrow Sorrow and fright the dearest catharsis
Beautiful Evil Self to be the Morbid Count A part of a Pact that is delightfully immortal
[scream] Feel the call freeze you with the uppermost desire Transilvanian Hunger...my mountain is cold
[scream]
So Pure... Evil, Cold Transilvanian Hunger [Lyrics by Fenriz (1992)]
you but here’s the thing, I never said they were lyrical geniuses did I? Remember you said something about nuance?
This is not about musical taste. This is about basic logic. Your insistence that rapping is not music is illogical. You ignored the questions I asked you because you have no definition for what music is and your judgment that rap does not qualify is arbitrary and clearly meant to be an insult. I'll ask again, is Foxey Lady by Jimi Hendrix music? Because I call that rhythmic shouting, not singing.
What about this song by Anderson Paak (very bad language warning!):
Would you also refuse to call this music? Mostly he raps, but he also occasionally wanders into melody. Does it suddenly become music in those instances? Is it all music because he is also playing an instrument? Or do percussions not count as musicians because their instruments don't make notes?
Yes, rapping is not music. ANYTHING you do that is NOT musical is not music. Music MUST include one of the 12 unique notes or combination of them into chords or power chords. So, do I consider drummers to be "musicians?" No. They are percussionists who support musicians.
The dude you linked here IS doing some singing, but the Kendrick Lamar clip in the initial post has no singing. He is rapping (no musicality) over music that he didn't write or perform.
Rapping is an art form. It is not music.
Also, to someone else's comment, I know full well the influence Kendrick Lamar has had on young people AND musicians...that doesn't make his rapping, music. Rap is not music.
Dude, any musician pro or amateur will tell you music starts with rhythm. The primordial musical instrument is a drum.
It certainly wasn’t tone deaf. I’ll double down and say it again: Kendrick is a wannabe thug who can only rap about his “culture.” Nothing we said was political until you and pig man tried.
and you can keep repeating the tired lie about hip hop having the deepest lyrics but no one is buying it.
My bad, you're right, you're not tone death. You knew exactly what you were insinuating when you worded "Kendrick 'imma rap about the ghetto' Lamar." Gotcha, I know who I'm talking with now. I'll move on...
Lol keep race baiting instead of logically defending your point. Does he not talk about the ghetto (and yes I mean talk, cause he can’t sing)
It certainly wasn’t tone deaf. I’ll double down and say it again: Kendrick is a wannabe thug who can only rap about his “culture.” Nothing we said was political until you and pig man tried.
and you can keep repeating the tired lie about hip hop having the deepest lyrics but no one is buying it.
I've seen enough of your posts to know that your opinion on rap is undoubtedly related to your feelings about the black community in general. And this post proves it. "Wannabe thug"? The song is explicitly anti-violence and anti-gang culture, among other things. But he's black and he said bad words so he must be a thug.
You also accused him of "stealing" from Gaye. As if the entire history of music isn't based on people stealing beats, chord progressions, and melodies from people who came before. There are infinite examples of songs that are almost exact copies of other songs, just played in a different key or at a different tempo. Marvin Gaye, in particular, has been ripped off over and over. Blurred Lines? Thinking Out Loud? Sampling a song is no different. The bass is bigger and the energy of the song is totally different. He made it his own. It is obviously music.
lol I could have called him the n word if I was trying to bring race into it, but unlike him I don’t use that word.
you but here’s the thing, I never said they were lyrical geniuses did I? Remember you said something about nuance?
They sure as hell aren't musical geniuses either. Can't believe you've been sh*tting on Kendrick Lamar when your definition of good music is this GG Allin tribute band. "POWER CHORDS AND SCREAMING! POWER CHORDS AND SCREAMINGGGGGG."
Ever heard that saying about glass houses and throwing stones?
I know you're not the one to talk about lyrics, lmao! No one is trying to hear your "I like people screaming in my ear" a$. Darkthrone, huh? Is this one their songs? I know you're a troll when you deliberately put things out of context to serve your point.
Transilvanian Hunger - Darkthrone
Transilvanian Hunger...cold..soul Your hands are cruel...to haunt..to haunt
the mountains are cold...soul...soul... careful..pale...forever at Night
Take me...can't you feel the Call Embrace Me Eternally in your daylight slumber
To be Draped by the Shadow of your Morbid Palace oh, Hate Living...The only heat is warm blood
So Pure... So Cold Transilvanian Hunger
Hail to the True, intense vampires A story made for Divine fulfillment
To be the ones breathing a Wind of Sorrow Sorrow and fright the dearest catharsis
Beautiful Evil Self to be the Morbid Count A part of a Pact that is delightfully immortal
[scream] Feel the call freeze you with the uppermost desire Transilvanian Hunger...my mountain is cold
[scream]
So Pure... Evil, Cold Transilvanian Hunger [Lyrics by Fenriz (1992)]
you but here’s the thing, I never said they were lyrical geniuses did I? Remember you said something about nuance?
My guy, he won a Pulitzer Prize for music. It was the first time the award had gone to a musical work outside the genres of classical music and jazz. You sound dumb af right now. Your tried to sh!t on Kendrick and hip hop for not being music, all the while referencing a band of guys who dress up and put makeup as if they're auditioning for Interview With The Vampire 2 while passing off screaming as music. You could've posted any great musician from any genre to showcase what you thought was good music and you posted that?
African tribal music starts with drums, there is no question drumming is music, hell a maching band as just one example. Yep, Buddy Miles, Ringo, Gene Krupa were musicians.
I got curious about Lamar so I did some homework. He does what does with the best of them, very very talented but.........not a fan of what he does. His trip is poor me/us growing up black in America, which is very boring and tired. As you probably know he has talked about shooting his rap competition, his thing about violence not good. Sure sure when it comes to poor black man trying to survive apparently he has that down. My thing is all that was done a long long time ago with them blues. And the violence thing.....
Gonna cut your throat mama, drink you blood like wine.
Pegleg Howell 1926
Gonna take my dirk and stab her, move it round and round
Robert Lockwood 1941
......is all over old blues music.
These we black folks have hard times these rappers today stand no chance vs those who lived it and sang about it.
This is not about musical taste. This is about basic logic. Your insistence that rapping is not music is illogical. You ignored the questions I asked you because you have no definition for what music is and your judgment that rap does not qualify is arbitrary and clearly meant to be an insult. I'll ask again, is Foxey Lady by Jimi Hendrix music? Because I call that rhythmic shouting, not singing.
What about this song by Anderson Paak (very bad language warning!):
Would you also refuse to call this music? Mostly he raps, but he also occasionally wanders into melody. Does it suddenly become music in those instances? Is it all music because he is also playing an instrument? Or do percussions not count as musicians because their instruments don't make notes?
Yes, rapping is not music. ANYTHING you do that is NOT musical is not music. Music MUST include one of the 12 unique notes or combination of them into chords or power chords. So, do I consider drummers to be "musicians?" No. They are percussionists who support musicians.
The dude you linked here IS doing some singing, but the Kendrick Lamar clip in the initial post has no singing. He is rapping (no musicality) over music that he didn't write or perform.
Rapping is an art form. It is not music.
Also, to someone else's comment, I know full well the influence Kendrick Lamar has had on young people AND musicians...that doesn't make his rapping, music. Rap is not music.
no way...Drummers can definitely be musicians. Sure they are "keeping the beat" to support other instruments but there are definitely some that the drumming comes to the forefront with the use of all the toms, cymbals, bells, etc...
How could you say there is no musical aspect to this?
Yes, rapping is not music. ANYTHING you do that is NOT musical is not music. Music MUST include one of the 12 unique notes or combination of them into chords or power chords. So, do I consider drummers to be "musicians?" No. They are percussionists who support musicians.
The dude you linked here IS doing some singing, but the Kendrick Lamar clip in the initial post has no singing. He is rapping (no musicality) over music that he didn't write or perform.
Rapping is an art form. It is not music.
Also, to someone else's comment, I know full well the influence Kendrick Lamar has had on young people AND musicians...that doesn't make his rapping, music. Rap is not music.
Ok, I won't beat an old, probably dead inside horse any longer. Nothing anyone will say will convince you that hip hop is music. That's unfortunate for you. Luckily, you're in the extreme minority in the world, so it all works out.
Unless it is musical (use of any of 12 notes or any combination of those notes into chords or power chords), then it is not music. Just because you rap over music doesn't make it music. I could stare off into space while music is playing in the background, and that doesn't make my staring off into space, music. I could solve a Rubik's cube over background music, and that doesn't make solving the Rubik's cube, music.
Yes, rapping is not music. ANYTHING you do that is NOT musical is not music. Music MUST include one of the 12 unique notes or combination of them into chords or power chords. So, do I consider drummers to be "musicians?" No. They are percussionists who support musicians.
I feel like you're just trolling at this point. Most people would consider drummers musicians. Rhythm is an integral component of music; you can't exclude it from the definition just because it doesn't involve notes. I've provided multiple example of songs where rapping is intermixed with singing to the point that it makes no sense to try to separate the two; they are both musical expressions.
Yes, rapping is not music. ANYTHING you do that is NOT musical is not music. Music MUST include one of the 12 unique notes or combination of them into chords or power chords. So, do I consider drummers to be "musicians?" No. They are percussionists who support musicians.
The dude you linked here IS doing some singing, but the Kendrick Lamar clip in the initial post has no singing. He is rapping (no musicality) over music that he didn't write or perform.
Rapping is an art form. It is not music.
Also, to someone else's comment, I know full well the influence Kendrick Lamar has had on young people AND musicians...that doesn't make his rapping, music. Rap is not music.
Dude, any musician pro or amateur will tell you music starts with rhythm. The primordial musical instrument is a drum.
Well, no, not any musician will tell you that. I am a musician. Drummers are percussionists.
Yes, rapping is not music. ANYTHING you do that is NOT musical is not music. Music MUST include one of the 12 unique notes or combination of them into chords or power chords. So, do I consider drummers to be "musicians?" No. They are percussionists who support musicians.
The dude you linked here IS doing some singing, but the Kendrick Lamar clip in the initial post has no singing. He is rapping (no musicality) over music that he didn't write or perform.
Rapping is an art form. It is not music.
Also, to someone else's comment, I know full well the influence Kendrick Lamar has had on young people AND musicians...that doesn't make his rapping, music. Rap is not music.
no way...Drummers can definitely be musicians. Sure they are "keeping the beat" to support other instruments but there are definitely some that the drumming comes to the forefront with the use of all the toms, cymbals, bells, etc...
How could you say there is no musical aspect to this?
you but here’s the thing, I never said they were lyrical geniuses did I? Remember you said something about nuance?
My guy, he won a Pulitzer Prize for music. It was the first time the award had gone to a musical work outside the genres of classical music and jazz. You sound dumb af right now. Your tried to sh!t on Kendrick and hip hop for not being music, all the while referencing a band of guys who dress up and put makeup as if they're auditioning for Interview With The Vampire 2 while passing off screaming as music. You could've posted any great musician from any genre to showcase what you thought was good music and you posted that?
Are you really gonna use a Pulitzer Prize as your shield? All those awards are garbage. Just people patting themselves on the back. I’m not even gonna start debating black metal with you though since you are woefully ignorant of the genre.
no way...Drummers can definitely be musicians. Sure they are "keeping the beat" to support other instruments but there are definitely some that the drumming comes to the forefront with the use of all the toms, cymbals, bells, etc...
How could you say there is no musical aspect to this?
