You forgot the 3 most important parts, of course, I wouldn't expect more actually.
1. The US and Russia both said the same thing. Get your missiles out or we will get them out for you.
2. The US did do an act of war by blockading Cuba. It was Russia who was the calm one and offered a deal, not the US.
3. Russia actually took their missiles away from Cuba, whereas the US continues to this day to arm Russia's most historic neighbor/brother even as Russia has protested many many times.
So the difference here is simple, Russia did what the US is refusing to do now. And that's what prevented a war. Russia was the bigger country back then and today.
And that's not even talking about the coup the US did in 2004 in Ukraine. Cause you know, the US does no wrong.
If you don't think we would do the same if China armed Canada or Mexico or Cuba again, then ok, nice to live in a world where the US does nothing wrong world.
Oh, the "brother" reference to Ukraine again. It is pretty clear that neither Putin nor many of his troops consider Ukrainians to be their brothers. Unless in their families you kill you brothers and rape and kill their wives. And I guess that wouldn't surprise me too much.
Ignore everything and harp on if Ukraine has close historic ties to Russia.
This is why it's impossible to discuss these things. You literally ignored everything much more important than your idea that being brothers matters or not.
Let me put it another way.
Cuba wasn't our brother as if that even matters and we flipped out. Rightfully so! They were wrong for arming Cuba and we are wrong for arming Ukraine.
The fact that people are blinded by the media / government is just so weird to me. But then again, logic isn't in most peoples arsenal.
Ignore everything and harp on if Ukraine has close historic ties to Russia.
This is why it's impossible to discuss these things. You literally ignored everything much more important than your idea that being brothers matters or not.
Let me put it another way.
Cuba wasn't our brother as if that even matters and we flipped out. Rightfully so! They were wrong for arming Cuba and we are wrong for arming Ukraine.
The fact that people are blinded by the media / government is just so weird to me. But then again, logic isn't in most peoples arsenal.
Russia did not invade Ukraine because we armed them. You have a hilariously incompetent understanding of global geopolitics and are wielding this incompetence to excuse murderous aggression and war crimes. Shameful and moronic – a classic LRC combo!
Ignore everything and harp on if Ukraine has close historic ties to Russia.
This is why it's impossible to discuss these things. You literally ignored everything much more important than your idea that being brothers matters or not.
Let me put it another way.
Cuba wasn't our brother as if that even matters and we flipped out. Rightfully so! They were wrong for arming Cuba and we are wrong for arming Ukraine.
The fact that people are blinded by the media / government is just so weird to me. But then again, logic isn't in most peoples arsenal.
Russia did not invade Ukraine because we armed them. You have a hilariously incompetent understanding of global geopolitics and are wielding this incompetence to excuse murderous aggression and war crimes. Shameful and moronic – a classic LRC combo!
Shameful and moronic, a perfect description of you. Have you gotten you're sixth jab yet?
You forgot the 3 most important parts, of course, I wouldn't expect more actually.
1. The US and Russia both said the same thing. Get your missiles out or we will get them out for you.
2. The US did do an act of war by blockading Cuba. It was Russia who was the calm one and offered a deal, not the US.
3. Russia actually took their missiles away from Cuba, whereas the US continues to this day to arm Russia's most historic neighbor/brother even as Russia has protested many many times.
So the difference here is simple, Russia did what the US is refusing to do now. And that's what prevented a war. Russia was the bigger country back then and today.
And that's not even talking about the coup the US did in 2004 in Ukraine. Cause you know, the US does no wrong.
If you don't think we would do the same if China armed Canada or Mexico or Cuba again, then ok, nice to live in a world where the US does nothing wrong world.
Imagine being so Russophobic that you think murdering civilians in Ukraine by the thousands is worse than a naval blockade. Why can't you Russophobes see how totally rational and unbiased the above poster is!! These two situations are exactly the same (don't forget the US is terrible!!1).
They are EXACTLY the same except for one thing. Russia took out their missiles and we didn't. If you don't understand that, then can't help ya.
You just proved yourself to be a pro-Russian troll on this running website where everyone in here knows the answer to Who is back baby?
Not knowing this proves you’re an outsider with no interest in track. Which begs the question, why are you on an American running site spouting pro-Russian propaganda?
I am a huge fan of Track, I have a subscription to Tilastopaja which I look at EVERY DAY. I subscribed to Track and Field News for over 30 Years, I ran the New York Marathon in 1978 just after my 15th Birthday, Ran at Orange Coast College in the early 1980's, and at Oklahoma State and Cal State Bakersfield where I also was on the Wrestling Teams.
not you Douglas. We’ve seen your name on plenty of running only posts. The pro-Russian troll who tried to use google to find the answer to “Who is back baby? and posted a George Castaza photo saying I’m back baby. When everyone on this site know who’s really back baby.
What I see is fervent Russophobics attacking posters, instead of their arguments, by labelling those with opposing views as paid trolls.
What does a question like "back baby" that prove?
Like hokey WWII movies where the German spy is outed by failing to know who won the World Series in such-and-such year. As if every American would know.
More than 1/3 of Americans can't even find the Ukraine on map.
As to "back baby", you probably got it wrong. This is the best answer:
Should change your name to Disingenuous. That would be more fitting.
Weldon commented on an influx of Russian IPs, ca. 2014, when the Russian doping revelations were made public. No doubt some found a home here and have stayed. It's only increased since then and some are quite obvious. Others are sympathizers, on this side of the pond. You can often tell the difference.
The label of "paid troll" is slung like monkey dung around here.
Despite contributing to a plethora of topics for years, it's applied to me lately for not echoing jingoistic MSM-driven views, or for calling out clear BS and hypocrisy.
Didn't say there are no Russian paid trolls on LR. Just that I'd seen no evidence of it.
I would not say an anecdotal comment 8 years ago passes for evidence.
Wouldn't a hot-button topic relating to Russian athletes elicit more messages from Russian posters? Presumably Russian posters are or were "a thing", as are posters in many other countries.
You should look up disingenuous - "not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does."
What knowledge am I hiding? Being a covert sleeper troll? That wouldn't be so bad, perhaps, because I'd be owed 20 years' back pay.
not you Douglas. We’ve seen your name on plenty of running only posts. The pro-Russian troll who tried to use google to find the answer to “Who is back baby? and posted a George Castaza photo saying I’m back baby. When everyone on this site know who’s really back baby.
A real LR regular would know that "Back Baby" does not apply to one person - I posted the OG reference it was ripped off from. Kids today...
Hey Earnest, Vietnam will buy your Russian oil and pay in dong, and I don’t mean the currency.
I can certainly see how everyone except a Paid Russian Troll would cough up the one reference you're looking for - not the original source or its countless uses since. Recently:
WEBB IS BACK BABY ABDI'S BACK, BABY GERMAN IS BACK BABY!!!! MCLAUGHLIN'S BACK BABY!! Soren Knudsen is back baby!!!! RYAN HALL'S BACK, BABY! BASEBALL IS BACK, BABY! MAKH DADDY IS BACK BABY Tiger Woods is back baby!!!! Colby Alexander is BACK BABY! PREGNANT WEBB IS BACK BABY!!! Ashley Brasovan is BACK, baby! Ryan Trahan is BACK BABY!!! Durianrider is back baby! Sir Mo's back, baby! Paula is back baby Timothy Olson is Back Baby!!! Evan Jager is back baby!!! Kipchoge is back, baby! London Is Back, Baby The Week That Was is back, baby!
Imagine being so Russophobic that you think murdering civilians in Ukraine by the thousands is worse than a naval blockade. Why can't you Russophobes see how totally rational and unbiased the above poster is!! These two situations are exactly the same (don't forget the US is terrible!!1).
They are EXACTLY the same except for one thing. Russia took out their missiles and we didn't. If you don't understand that, then can't help ya.
How many Cuban civilians died at the hands of US soldiers during the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Hey Earnest, Vietnam will buy your Russian oil and pay in dong, and I don’t mean the currency.
I can certainly see how everyone except a Paid Russian Troll would cough up the one reference you're looking for - not the original source or its countless uses since. Recently:
WEBB IS BACK BABY ABDI'S BACK, BABY GERMAN IS BACK BABY!!!! MCLAUGHLIN'S BACK BABY!! Soren Knudsen is back baby!!!! RYAN HALL'S BACK, BABY! BASEBALL IS BACK, BABY! MAKH DADDY IS BACK BABY Tiger Woods is back baby!!!! Colby Alexander is BACK BABY! PREGNANT WEBB IS BACK BABY!!! Ashley Brasovan is BACK, baby! Ryan Trahan is BACK BABY!!! Durianrider is back baby! Sir Mo's back, baby! Paula is back baby Timothy Olson is Back Baby!!! Evan Jager is back baby!!! Kipchoge is back, baby! London Is Back, Baby The Week That Was is back, baby!
They are EXACTLY the same except for one thing. Russia took out their missiles and we didn't. If you don't understand that, then can't help ya.
How many Cuban civilians died at the hands of US soldiers during the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Zero Cubans died. That has nothing to do with it. The Cubans are alive because the Russians pulled out their missiles, something Ukraine and the US ignored for YEARS.
Zero Ukrainians would be dead now, if the US has pulled out their missiles as well, but ignore that fact please.
The difference isn't the amount dead, it is the missiles. You don't get that. The US had every right to be pissed at Russia for Cuba, the same as Russia has every right to be pissed at the US and Ukraine.
Let's play your non-dead Cuban theory out future cause the US was so nice to basically take away all support to Cuba. That is essentially the same as taking over the country. And if you still don't understand that, see how you would do if the gov surrounded your house and gave you no ability to leave.
The difference is the Cuba couldn't defend itself like Ukraine can today, OR Cuba and the US would have gone to war as well. And if that blockade lasted years the same way that Russia has told the US to stop arming Ukraine, many many Cubans would have died. BUT Russia was the bigger smarter country back then, unlike the US today.
If the US truly cared about dead Ukrainians, they would stop supplying Ukraine weapons for a war that they won't win and will destroy their country in the meantime. That is fact!
How many Cuban civilians died at the hands of US soldiers during the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Zero Cubans died. That has nothing to do with it. The Cubans are alive because the Russians pulled out their missiles, something Ukraine and the US ignored for YEARS.
Zero Ukrainians would be dead now, if the US has pulled out their missiles as well, but ignore that fact please.
The difference isn't the amount dead, it is the missiles. You don't get that. The US had every right to be pissed at Russia for Cuba, the same as Russia has every right to be pissed at the US and Ukraine.
Let's play your non-dead Cuban theory out future cause the US was so nice to basically take away all support to Cuba. That is essentially the same as taking over the country. And if you still don't understand that, see how you would do if the gov surrounded your house and gave you no ability to leave.
The difference is the Cuba couldn't defend itself like Ukraine can today, OR Cuba and the US would have gone to war as well. And if that blockade lasted years the same way that Russia has told the US to stop arming Ukraine, many many Cubans would have died. BUT Russia was the bigger smarter country back then, unlike the US today.
If the US truly cared about dead Ukrainians, they would stop supplying Ukraine weapons for a war that they won't win and will destroy their country in the meantime. That is fact!
What nuclear missiles does the United States have in Ukraine?
Also, Russia was not a country in 1962. Russia, as a country, is a decade younger than I am.
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