- You can't park in your garage because it is so full of junk.
- You bandit a race. I knew a guy whose wife died of cancer and he did a local run/walk 5k for cancer in her honor. Went to look up how he did and it turned out he bandited the run.
- You think passing gas is funny.
I feel sorry that life has robbed you of being able to laugh at ripping @ss. Farting in the car and locking the windows? Funny. Farting on a run? Funny. Ripping one and pretending it was the floorboards or the dog? Classic.
Stop taking yourself so seriously.
"Stop taking yourself so seriously" says the guy who feels personally attacked at the fact he has the humor of a nine year old.
You're low class bro. Accept it, and....stop taking yourself so seriously.
- You can't park in your garage because it is so full of junk.
- You bandit a race. I knew a guy whose wife died of cancer and he did a local run/walk 5k for cancer in her honor. Went to look up how he did and it turned out he bandited the run.
- You think passing gas is funny.
I feel sorry that life has robbed you of being able to laugh at ripping @ss. Farting in the car and locking the windows? Funny. Farting on a run? Funny. Ripping one and pretending it was the floorboards or the dog? Classic.
My favorite is cutting one when riding alone in the elevator, right as the doors open before I get off and leaving a cloud of funk for subsequent unsuspecting riders.
But the point is that how someone acts is not definitive. There are a lot of people from the higher classes in society who have acted badly. Your social class is not actually defined by things like how loudly you speak, your manners and so on. It may be correlated with it (arguably) but it isn't what automatically qualifies you as low class (what the thread is titled). You're joking if you don't think there are old money families who act badly or have bad manners., or indeed treat people poorly.
His point was "good manners are for peasants who can't afford to do whatever they want." You agreed, stating "That is the correct answer". It is not the correct answer. Yes, people born into class can treat others poorly, show no regard to concern, be dismissive etc., but to think that manners "are for peasants" is only what a poor person could possibly believe. The kind of person who would attend a Diner en Blanc and think they are somehow being fancy and feel important. Manners very much matter. I will agree to a degree that they are more important depending on the company, but behaving well is generally ingrained and behaving badly is never seen to be positive.
I don't believe that manners are for peasants only. I wouldn't use the word peasant in that context aside from anything else. I agreed with his first statement: you're born into class (unfortunately). His basic premise was you're born into it and it's about upbringing. Socioeconomic class, the class system in England (I can only speak about where I'm from) is defined by your upbringing. People of all classes swear, have bad manners sometimes and fart. Those behaviours don't separate people.
To be honest one could argue that your behaviour is low class because in all of your posts you make statements and arguments that involve looking down on people.
I just want to clarify as one of my previous points was misunderstood. By my last sentence I meant:
- Using the user name 'your class is showing' in a direct reply, presumably to insinuate something about my class (which should be irrelevant to the discussion).
- Saying 'you would only think that if you were born poor' - again, implying something or trying to make it personal for no good reason which could spoil the discussion. Also, not a true statement, unless you believe 'poor' and 'rich' people should be split into groups like that and all have similar beliefs, which is more classist than anything else.
- Using the term 'nouveau riche' to look down on people.
- 'television characters who you think are real life' - I'm guessing that means reality TV, so implying I (or poor people) watch American reality TV and think that's an accurate representation of high class people.
- In your second answer directly to me saying my beliefs are 'something only a poor person could believe'. Do you really believe that someone's personal beliefs are separated like that? Poor people think one way, rich people think another?
- Looking down on people 'the kind of person who would attend a dîner en blanc and think they're somehow being fancy and feel important. I've never attended a white party but I wouldn't look down on people who do.
I just find it ironic as you've replied to me directly, twice, about manners and class yet lower the discussion by bringing or trying to bring personal things into it. My personal situation is irrelevant to the discussion. The discussion is open to everyone, and I certainly don't think having one viewpoint or attitude is something only a poor or rich person could have. I think that's really limiting. You keep reiterating that manners matter, yet for me, in this thread, your viewpoint is one of the most offensive ones with the least manners because of the things you've written above and the way you keep trying to look down on people. If you really think manners matter, maybe try to live by that rule.
Judging other people is a survival mechanism: I walk along streets in Manhattan daily, judging the threat level and mental stability of people around me. It helps to keep me alive.
I feel sorry that life has robbed you of being able to laugh at ripping @ss. Farting in the car and locking the windows? Funny. Farting on a run? Funny. Ripping one and pretending it was the floorboards or the dog? Classic.
Stop taking yourself so seriously.
If you think it's funny or cool to make it so someone has to smell your nasty ass gas, then you win a white trailer trash award.