Thyroid meds will do nothing for you except possibly help you lose a little weight.
You know this personally? And weight loss wouldn't help an endurance athlete, would it?
I know this personally. I have been taking thyroid meds since my early 30s due to hashimotos and have never had any advantage in any part of endurance sports because of it. i still don't recover as well as people my age who are not taking thyroid meds. i totally suck.
I have a feeling for many hobby joggers/sub-elites, doping isnt always about taking home the glorious $50 gift card or crossing the finish line first in your local turkey trot only to say "gobble gobble MFers." More likely about being able to bang out mile repeats, and afterwords wanting to head home to do a few rounds with the wife. PED's not only make you faster, but quality of life while on them vastly improves.
You know this personally? And weight loss wouldn't help an endurance athlete, would it?
I know this personally. I have been taking thyroid meds since my early 30s due to hashimotos and have never had any advantage in any part of endurance sports because of it. i still don't recover as well as people my age who are not taking thyroid meds. i totally suck.
Yet it is known that many who dope or use medications like yours do not have a medical malady, as you do. They use it because it can aid the otherwise fit and healthy.
If you are competing in masters sport it is doping.
You can't break any rules unless you are subject to those rules.
Masters sport is subject to doping rules, just as junior sport is. Indeed, many substances are not permitted without legitimate medical approval, even for recreational purposes.
So why does anyone take it if they don't benefit from it?
Funny you agree with the experts, until you don't. Recall WADA's threshold is quite low, only requiring a subjective opinion of a "potential to enhance performance", and all of the science and medical experts "were unanimous in their view" when deciding against banning thyroid. That makes it no different than aspirin.
Aren't you taking aspirin daily with a prescription? Are you benefiting from that? Of course you must be. Why else would you take it if you don't benefit from it? But then, here's what you said just a few weeks ago: "For my health. You know nothing about medicine. You just make garbage up."
So I guess you already knew the answer. People take it for health reasons, and you know nothing about medicine and you make garbage up.
I didn't say that I disagreed with WADA; I asked why would anyone take a medication unless it had a benefit. The benefit isn't always medical. It is well known that athletes may take medications for ailments they don't have - like asthma inhalers when they aren't actually asthmatic. Most peds also have a legitimate medical purpose - like growth hormone for those who are deficient.
Thyroid medication can benefit healthy athletes; aspirin is not known to do so apart from helping with a headache.
You know this personally? And weight loss wouldn't help an endurance athlete, would it?
Yes. I know this personally. I had a “hot” tumor in my thyroid and had most of my thyroid removed 10 years ago. Over the years I have used T4, T3, and both. I’ve adjusted dosing up and down and closely monitored what this does to me. Thyroid medication is not a PED.
There are those who take thyroid meds who don't have any ailment like yours. So why would the healthy take it?
By focussing on medications that have not been categorised as a ped you appear to think you are showing that doping at the recreational level either doesn't exist or is insignificant. That is only your hope. As usual, most sportsmen and women don't take your view. Doping is known to exist in schools and colleges as well as amongst seniors and people who simply go to the gym.
I didn't say that I disagreed with WADA; I asked why would anyone take a medication unless it had a benefit. The benefit isn't always medical. It is well known that athletes may take medications for ailments they don't have - like asthma inhalers when they aren't actually asthmatic. Most peds also have a legitimate medical purpose - like growth hormone for those who are deficient.
Thyroid medication can benefit healthy athletes; aspirin is not known to do so apart from helping with a headache.
After multiple reviews, a group of scientific and medical experts were unanimous in their view that thyroid medication doesn't even have the potential to enhance performance.
It really doesn't matter whether you agree, or disagree, or say you agree then disagree anyway.
By focussing on medications that have not been categorised as a ped you appear to think you are showing that doping at the recreational level either doesn't exist or is insignificant. That is only your hope. As usual, most sportsmen and women don't take your view. Doping is known to exist in schools and colleges as well as amongst seniors and people who simply go to the gym.
More self-delusion. I don't believe any of those things.
I believe doping exists at all levels because faith in PEDs exists at all levels.
You can't break any rules unless you are subject to those rules.
Masters sport is subject to doping rules, just as junior sport is. Indeed, many substances are not permitted without legitimate medical approval, even for recreational purposes.
Maybe some small percentage of masters are subject to doping rules.
But you were talking about all "prescriptions", and I was talking about athletes not subject to such rules.
How nice that you and Armstronglivs have arrived to ruin yet another thread.
You are welcome. But how can you ruin a thread that invites so much uninformed speculation about doping prevalence among "sub-elite" and "hobby joggers"?
I came to respond to "I'm a pharamacist" with real world information about thyroid medication (it is not considered doping) and some scientifically proven causes of "low T" in males (overtraining and age).
I can't help it if real world information triggers Armstronglivs, like Pavlov's dog, and I don't see any reason why his inability to accept the consequences of such facts should interfere with my giving them in a public forum designed for public discussion on a topic that the forum founders encourage public discussion.
By focussing on medications that have not been categorised as a ped you appear to think you are showing that doping at the recreational level either doesn't exist or is insignificant. That is only your hope. As usual, most sportsmen and women don't take your view. Doping is known to exist in schools and colleges as well as amongst seniors and people who simply go to the gym.
More self-delusion. I don't believe any of those things.
I believe doping exists at all levels because faith in PEDs exists at all levels.
So it is only "faith" that peds work; no one has proof that they do? Yours is the faith, that there is no evidence that peds enhance performance. Huge amounts of money are spent on acquiring peds that don't work and anti-doping is attempting to eradicate drugs that don't enhance performance. You are truly ridiculous.
Masters sport is subject to doping rules, just as junior sport is. Indeed, many substances are not permitted without legitimate medical approval, even for recreational purposes.
Maybe some small percentage of masters are subject to doping rules.
But you were talking about all "prescriptions", and I was talking about athletes not subject to such rules.
What athletes are not subject to anti-doping rules? Those who don't compete?
I didn't say that I disagreed with WADA; I asked why would anyone take a medication unless it had a benefit. The benefit isn't always medical. It is well known that athletes may take medications for ailments they don't have - like asthma inhalers when they aren't actually asthmatic. Most peds also have a legitimate medical purpose - like growth hormone for those who are deficient.
Thyroid medication can benefit healthy athletes; aspirin is not known to do so apart from helping with a headache.
After multiple reviews, a group of scientific and medical experts were unanimous in their view that thyroid medication doesn't even have the potential to enhance performance.
It really doesn't matter whether you agree, or disagree, or say you agree then disagree anyway.
So why do athletes who aren't sick take thyroid meds - along with their peds?
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