i predict she will be slower than the slowest dude
i predict she will be slower than the slowest dude
versy tile wrote:
So this info below wasn't okay? We can't post meet results now? I thought that was the whole point of this site.
Lester ran 49/4:06
Witt 50/4:04
Harrison 50/4:08
English 47/4:19
Mederios 48/4:19
Austin 47/4:18
Flatt 48/4:18
Leach 48/4:18
This is an anonymous site. The poster made it clear that it wasn't his intention. How often do we get people apologizing and admitting an error? It should be commended.
He posted someone else's son after someone said his son doesn't exist. My problem with this is completely unrelated to whether people exist with those statistics.
As for the statistics for themselves, we agree that 48/1:50 guys make incredible milers.
Charles Bukowski wrote:
i predict she will be slower than the slowest dude
Plenty of dudes in that race
this is so exciting. it means she's playing the long game.
This is certainly exciting and adds a lot of new buzz to the meet and her appearance + race there.
No one was really that interested in watching her likely winning a 300.
Maybe ticket sales lagging, a phone call and a different offer from meet promotors and bam she switches events.
Smart move. Win/win (+Win) for all.
No big risk and much to gain. might finish dfl and still PR. Even if she goes out hard and dies she will learn from it.
Good for her to be willing to go outside her comfort zone. But likely she knows more and has reasons to be more confident than we give her credit for. No reason to travel, change events and just try to hang on to the end unless you know you can be in the mix.
I believe sub 4:25. Faster if she is kicking for the win.
If the field is together with 400m to go she's gonna win.
If ever you joggers needed inspiration look at her.
Not afraid to race. Even when its out of her comfort zone.
She's the Honey Badger
It seems likely Mu will have a major impact on the race.
If the other major players still have Mu hanging around half way, will they possibly change their normal racing strategy? Will one of the favorites begin pushing from much farther out than usual to try to make it a strength hang-on type race?
Things get very interesting when someone with the kind of speed and talent as Mu enters the field. When that level of unknown talent at a particular distance enters the race it changes a lot of the dynamics.
No,I don't think it will chance the race. If Mu can run sub 4:20 she is a miracle or a dude (because Semenya was the only "female" in history with sub 50 400m and sub 4 1500m and she is bio-male). And there would be little anyone in the field could do (unless someone is in 4:15 shape and thus still faster and I seriously doubt this).
If Klosterhalfen is not completely off-shape she will keep/push the pace like she did in 2019 and 20 to take the edge off Purrier and other kickers, and she might not be the only one to push the pace. It will very probably not be a sit-and-kick race in 4:24-27 with or without Mu.
Mu ran 4:16 1500m outdoors last year. She has been a well developed 400/600/800m runner since 3-4 years, not a newcomer. Dropping ~16 sec. from that 1500m mark for a ca. 4:20 mile indoors in 9 months would be incredible. Dropping 10 secs to 4:24 would already be better than Wilson's 4:05 1500m and close to the strongest ever combined 400 +1500/mile times of female. If she runs that fast, she needs to try the 1000m WR (the one Semenya tried twice and I think without any sandbagging and failed). She should try the 1000m anyway.
She will break the 800 and 1000 world records. She has a chance at the American 1500 record.
For the upcoming meet I don't expect the field to allow a slow enough pace for Athing to contend for the win. I do expect her to run a significant personal best 4:26.7 to 4:31.1. This will just be an indication of her potential at the longer distance as she isn't training for it specifically.
Despite her world class 400m speed if she pursue the 1500m seriously a bit later in her career Miss Mu will eventually be a better 800/1500m runner then 400/800m.
Jo72 wrote:
No,I don't think it will chance the race.
You could very well be right on, but I think that "IF" Purrier & others have Mu stalking them with 600 to go someone will begin a very strong kick that they would normally save until 300-400 to go.
You don't understand sarcasm. That was spoofing the guys who don't think she can't run a fast 1500. She has run fast times without even trying. If she wanted to put similar effort into distance running as Tuohy, she would be the top American in the 1500. That was supposed to keep the people charged up. I guess it worked on you.
She chills in the pack til 600-700 to go and then starts pushing hard, spintering the group, runs a 1:27-28 last 600 and ends up 3rd in 4:19-21
Opinionated guy wrote:
Jo72 wrote:
No,I don't think it will chance the race.
You could very well be right on, but I think that "IF" Purrier & others have Mu stalking them with 600 to go someone will begin a very strong kick that they would normally save until 300-400 to go.
True. But there is at least one runner in the field with a poor kick who prefers frontrunning and did this already twice in this very event, namely Klosterhalfen (who in 2019 passed the pacer before 800m! - she totally destroyed the field with almost 3 sec. lead) and while KoKo might not be quite in the shape of the past, she needs even more to push early to have a chance against the fast finishers.
For perspective one has also to recall that at the meet in Texas where Mu ran 4:37 solo, KoKo and Hull ran almost exactly that pace for 3000m and it didn't seem an all out effort. By normal equivalents they should both be in ~4:20 shape and I doubt they will want a sit-and-kick-race.
Jo72 wrote:
True. But there is at least one runner in the field with a poor kick who prefers frontrunning and did this already twice in this very event, namely Klosterhalfen (who in 2019 passed the pacer before 800m! - she totally destroyed the field with almost 3 sec. lead) and while KoKo might not be quite in the shape of the past, she needs even more to push early to have a chance against the fast finishers.
Sounds like we are splitting hairs because I agree with you.
But if Koko tries to run everyone off their feet, but can't since she hasn't done that in a few years and Mu is still there...
IF Koko pushes the pace, others stay with her INCLUDING Mu, I think someone will think they need to push things earlier than against a typical field.
Random example is regardless of the early pace, Hull is a great runner, but she is not going to put the same fear in Purrier as Mu most likely would if they are with her with 600 to go. I don't think someone like Purrier would let it come down to 200-300 to go if Mu is lurking.
Jo72 wrote:
No,I don't think it will chance the race. If Mu can run sub 4:20 she is a miracle or a dude (because Semenya was the only "female" in history with sub 50 400m and sub 4 1500m and she is bio-male). And there would be little anyone in the field could do (unless someone is in 4:15 shape and thus still faster and I seriously doubt this).
If Klosterhalfen is not completely off-shape she will keep/push the pace like she did in 2019 and 20 to take the edge off Purrier and other kickers, and she might not be the only one to push the pace. It will very probably not be a sit-and-kick race in 4:24-27 with or without Mu.
Mu ran 4:16 1500m outdoors last year. She has been a well developed 400/600/800m runner since 3-4 years, not a newcomer. Dropping ~16 sec. from that 1500m mark for a ca. 4:20 mile indoors in 9 months would be incredible. Dropping 10 secs to 4:24 would already be better than Wilson's 4:05 1500m and close to the strongest ever combined 400 +1500/mile times of female. If she runs that fast, she needs to try the 1000m WR (the one Semenya tried twice and I think without any sandbagging and failed). She should try the 1000m anyway.
Yes. A few times in HS I won races 20-30s slower than my PR in the mile. I ran those races to win.
We don’t know what Mu could’ve run last year or this year because she’s only run to win.
With that said, a person that is an overwhelming favorite in the 800m, is certainly not switching their event in the 11th hour unless training has indicated she can compete.
I can't imagine even the naysayers not thinking that she will run 4:30. Imagine what 4:15 will feel like to someone who can run 1:55? I think that she finishes about 5th in 4:24.
4:29.97
What will I receive after I win this prediction contest?
randomtucsonguy wrote:
She chills in the pack til 600-700 to go and then starts pushing hard, spintering the group, runs a 1:27-28 last 600 and ends up 3rd in 4:19-21
If she’s ready to run 1:52 and 4:12y you might be right!
She won’t run the last 600 faster than 1:35 in this universe.