wtf
NY Times is propaganda central.
not noted....
the 200,000,000 Americans who have been vaccinated and haven't gotten Covid. But cute list. We know it was a cut and paste job, tho
Wuzzle Wuzzle4 wrote:
not noted....
the 200,000,000 Americans who have been vaccinated and haven't gotten Covid. But cute list. We know it was a cut and paste job, tho
Most vaxxed people have already had omicron and the rest will get it.
Give it up. The lie is falling apart.
carmine9 wrote:
Wuzzle Wuzzle4 wrote:
not noted....
the 200,000,000 Americans who have been vaccinated and haven't gotten Covid. But cute list. We know it was a cut and paste job, tho
Most vaxxed people have already had omicron and the rest will get it.
Give it up. The lie is falling apart.
OK you win. You are correct. Now move on with your sad life.
lol "most"....okay thanks for letting me know you know nothing about science AND math.
Splatter wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
Most vaxxed people have already had omicron and the rest will get it.
Give it up. The lie is falling apart.
OK you win. You are correct. Now move on with your sad life.
Why are vaxxers so sensitive about facts?
carmine9 wrote:
Splatter wrote:
OK you win. You are correct. Now move on with your sad life.
Why are vaxxers so sensitive about facts?
I am not a vaxxer. I am glad you are not vaxxed. Darwin’s Law will eliminate you soon enough.
Jimmy Kimmel remembers Bob:
Norm Sagat Roast:
Folks are too dogmatic on here. Of course vaccines have caused deaths, ivermectin isn't killing people at large. The real answer is always something less shocking and somewhere in the middle.
It's pretty clear the original 95% efficacy reported for alpha strain does not apply to omicron. The vaccines appear, at best, minimally effective at preventing omicron spread.
In our province, 72% of the population has two or three doses of the vaccine (we can call that "fully vaccinated"). At present, fully vaccinated individuals make up 69% of the known active cases (with the caveat of the known cases are a relatively small sample of total cases - hard to say whether sampling bias would occur and impact the vaccinated/unvaccinated distribution). Not fully vaccinated individuals make up 31% of the cases. When adjusted for rate of vaccination, it looks like non-vaccinated individuals are around 1.15 times more likely to have a reported case than fully vaccinated individuals. That number has been sliding for a while and I wouldn't be surprised to hit 1.00. I don't think anyone would argue that it's a pretty negligible impact.
With that said, it does still look like vaccinated individuals have better outcomes when they do catch a case. Not-fully vaccinated folks make up 50% of our province's currently hospital cases and a whopping 77% of our current ICU cases. This means not-fully vaccinated individuals are 2.5 times more likely to wind up hospitalized and 8.9 times more likely to be in our ICU than fully vaccinated individuals. These numbers have dropped a bit since delta.
Given the above, to me it still looks like vaccines are protective when it comes to the most important CoViD outcomes (just not very effective at preventing spread when it comes to Omicron). There is certainly some risk to vaccines, to be sure, but that risk is mild (unless you truly just believe published data are lies, in which case I'm not sure what would change your opinion).
You can do the math yourself. You might say that people are hospitalized "with CoViD" and that positive tests are incidental findings. Our province is apparently only reported cases which are reasonably due to CoViD. Nonetheless, even if the former were true, it still means that non-vaccinated individuals are winding up in the ICU and hospital at much higher rates than the general population which should be suggestive of something.
You can do the math your self here:
https://www.gov.mb.ca/covid19/updates/cases.html#vaccine-status
carmine9 wrote:
Why are vaxxers so sensitive about facts?
Why do anti vaxxers keep dying?
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A well-known conservative activist in Arlington, Texas, who peddled COVID-19 vaccine misinformation has died of complications caused by the virus—just a few weeks after attending a “symposium” against the shots.
The Arlington Republican Party confirmed the passing of Kelly Canon on Facebook.
Canon had announced on Facebook in November that her employer granted her a religious exemption for the COVID-19 vaccine.
“No jabby-jabby for me! Praise GOD!” she wrote at the time.
Friends and colleagues of the Republican figure flooded social media with tributes on Tuesday, lamenting what they said was her death “from COVID-related pneumonia.”
“I Had just texted with her yesterday and she said she was doing well, fighting off this damn Covid in both of her lungs that turned into double pneumonia, so I am quite shocked to get this news,” wrote one friend who identified herself as Jennifer Talbert Frank.
I'm just going to Fact Check you right now. I am actually not Dead. (and I'm also not Czech). Although I did have a bilateral pulmonary embolism. smh. People read incorrect stuff and spread incorrect stuff on the internet way too much these days.
carmine9 wrote:
not famous anymore wrote:
Name one healthy known person who has died of the vax.
I can name lots who took the jab and died shortly thereafter.
You want to believe that the jab had nothing to do with any of their deaths, that's on you.
Marvin Hagler
Bob Saget
Hank Aaron
Not dead but seems appropriate: Filip Ingebrigtsen (28) Norwegian runner had a tough 2021 after a reaction to the corona vaccine. Ingebrigtsen got the second vaccine dose just after the Olympics in Tokyo. His goal was “getting back to normal” but on October 17, he finished 10th in a race his brother won.
18/04/21 Jamaica Dead
Tremaine Stewart (Tan Tan) (32), Jamaican footballer with FC Dunbeholden. Collapsed and died during the kickaround before a match. News Story
22/04/21,
Craig Jones (29) Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu world champion black belt is unable to train or fight after a COVID injection
Giuseppe Perrino, 29, from Fujimarino, Italy. Collapsed and died during a tribute game for his dead brother. Paramedics at the scene tried to resuscitate him, but were unsuccessful. News Story
Not dead but pertinent: Sage Canaday (35), Czech TDS-145km ultra marathon runner died on the Mont Blanc trail with a bilateral pulmonary embolism and blood clots.. He was double vaccinated and started having problems in May after returning from a flight. After the Pfizer booster, he started to have difficulty breathing. News
Ditto: Christophe Lemeiter, French sprinter. Retired from French Championships and Tokyo Olympics. A coach said he failed a physical, after negative reactions to coronavirus vaccine.
Roy Butler (23), Irish footballer Watford FC dies with massive brain bleed after J&J vaccine. He suffered severe headaches and general malaise within one hour. By Saturday August 14, he was vomiting and having convulsions
David Patten.
Eric Clapton of course badly injured by the vaxx.
Now how about some know healthy people who died or were permanently harmed by Covid who were not vaxxed
Priceless…
if it quacks like a duck.. wrote:
Not sure why Bob (or anyone for that matter) took the clotshot.
You better be careful using that word to describe the vaccine - you could get into big trouble especially if you reside in a Democratically-controlled State. 😲
Splatter wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
Most vaxxed people have already had omicron and the rest will get it.
Give it up. The lie is falling apart.
OK you win. You are correct. Now move on with your sad life.
Not trying to "win". Trying to get you poor SOBs to see you have been tricked.
[quote]S. Canaday wrote:
I'm just going to Fact Check you right now.
I am actually not Dead. (and I'm also not Czech). Although I did have a bilateral pulmonary embolism.
smh. People read incorrect stuff and spread incorrect stuff on the internet way too much these days.
Must have affected your reading as well as nobody claimed you were dead.
Try reading again.
"Not dead but pertinent: Sage Canaday (35), Czech TDS-145km ultra marathon runner died on the Mont Blanc trail with a bilateral pulmonary embolism and blood clots.. He was double vaccinated and started having problems in May after returning from a flight. After the Pfizer booster, he started to have difficulty breathing. "
carmine9 wrote:
Not trying to "win". Trying to get you poor SOBs to see you have been tricked.
No one has been tricked. You do have a very large savior complex though. As if anything you feverishly type all day matters.
The vax is safe and for some reason that really hurts your butthole.
carmine9 wrote:
Must have affected your reading as well as nobody claimed you were dead.
Try reading again.
"Not dead but pertinent: Sage Canaday (35), Czech TDS-145km ultra marathon runner died on the Mont Blanc trail with a bilateral pulmonary embolism and blood clots.. He was double vaccinated and started having problems in May after returning from a flight. After the Pfizer booster, he started to have difficulty breathing. "
It's hard to read a broken sentence. Is this Czech person a different person from Sage? Did that person die? Clarity grade: F.
Was he a runner?