Alberto Salazar BANNED For Life for "Sexual Misconduct"

Does anyone know what the alleged sexual misconduct was?

Salazar knows.

carmine9 wrote:

Does anyone know what the alleged sexual misconduct was?

No, and seemingly everyone is assuming that it must be something that's already been reported, which I think is a mistake.

anacondarunner wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Does anyone know what the alleged sexual misconduct was?

No, and seemingly everyone is assuming that it must be something that's already been reported, which I think is a mistake.

So the career of a world famous runner and coach is ended for sexual misconduct and nobody can say what the misconduct is?

How bad does that stink?

grammar police wrote:

Correction: He picked the wrong woman with whom to fvck.

Yet another cop who doesn't know the law.

just wanted to post to show I support Alberto

Some other coaches would like to know specifically what "sexual misconduct" is that gets them banned for life.

Consider this about due process and the meaning of "vagueness".

A constitutional rule that requires criminal laws to state explicitly and definitely what conduct is punishable. Criminal laws that violate this requirement are said to be void for vagueness. Vagueness doctrine rests on the due process clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution.

anacondarunner wrote:

No, and seemingly everyone is assuming that it must be something that's already been reported, which I think is a mistake.

Based on what? Your unshakable faith in a black-box process administered by people who feel no need to explain their decisions?

This is the dumbest thing ever!

I hate the man and everything he stands for but I don't understand this. Is it normal for no details to be public knowledge for something like this?

The dude is getting dragged over the coals and none of us have any clue why. lol

Or, consider this from the Cato Institute.

"Vague laws involve three basic dangers: First, they may harm the innocent by failing to warn of the offense. Second, they encourage arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement because vague laws delegate enforcement and statutory interpretation to individual government officials. Third, because citizens will take extra precautions to avoid violating the law, vague laws inhibit our individual freedom. "

Or, consider Cohen v San Bernardino Valley College

"A female student at San Bernardino Valley College complained that one of her professors, Dean Cohen, had created a sexually hostile environment in her remedial English class. Cohen spoke about controversial topics, such as bestiality and obscenity, read articles he had written for pornographic magazines, and used profanity in the classroom. After the college concluded that Cohen had violated the school’s sexual harassment policy, he sued in federal court, contending that his rights to freedom of speech, academic freedom and due process had been violated.

A federal district court ruled against Cohen, so he appealed to the Ninth Circuit, which reversed in his favor on the First Amendment claim. The court’s three-judge panel determined that the policy was unconstitutionally vague as applied to Cohen, particularly given that he had been using such controversial teaching methods for many years.

“Cohen’s speech did not fall within the core region of sexual harassment as defined by the Policy,” the Ninth Circuit ruled. “Instead, officials of the College, on an entirely ad hoc basis, applied the Policy’s nebulous outer reaches to punish teaching methods that Cohen had used for many years.” The appeals court described the officials’ actions toward Cohen as a “legalistic ambush.” "

UofO wrote:

I am confident Alberto tiptoed the gray zone area for gimmicks & drugs to get ahead of the game.

But this sexual misconduct charge is ridiculous.

Bingo... this guys hits the nail on the head. People have issues accepting this man would do anything he could to legally "cheat". That doesnt make him wrong, just makes others upset that they arnt going to the lengths he was.

The sex thing just seems like another arrow to use to take him down.

You continually refer to vagueness. How is this even relevant? What you deem to be vague is likely due to your ignorance, and by that I am not referring to your intelligence. Alberto has been banned from coaching for behavior which he is damn well aware of. It is not likely vague to him. Alberto is another guy who thought he could get away with it. A generation ago he probably could. Is it fair that he cannot now? I think more information is needed, but not by Alberto. He knows what he did. His silence is deafening.

carmine9 wrote:

anacondarunner wrote:

No, and seemingly everyone is assuming that it must be something that's already been reported, which I think is a mistake.

So the career of a world famous runner and coach is ended for sexual misconduct and nobody can say what the misconduct is?

How bad does that stink?

Why is it over?

I repeat…. what exactly has he been banned from?

Taro wrote:

anacondarunner wrote:

No, and seemingly everyone is assuming that it must be something that's already been reported, which I think is a mistake.

Based on what? Your unshakable faith in a black-box process administered by people who feel no need to explain their decisions?

Based on the fact that nothing that's been reported remotely approaches "sexual misconduct" as defined in the SafeSport Code, outside of AlSal's supposedly drunken attempt to kiss Kara on the flight to Daegu (which was reported in Matt Hart's book). That would meet SafeSport's definition of "nonconsensual sexual contact" (assuming it was nonconsensual), but as Rojo noted above, a lifetime ban for that incident alone seems exceedingly draconian. So I'm assuming there is something else that has yet to be reported. Who knows, though. Maybe AlSal will address all of this in an open letter like he did with the BBC/ProPublica allegations.

Nodoubts wrote:

goodest riddance wrote:

Like every other thread on this topic, the lemmings will come out to praise their scumbag cheat of an abusive coach.

Perhaps but my praise for him concerned his running career. Intelligent people possess the ability to analyze with nuance. Alberto was as tenacious a competitor as you will find. Maybe that was his Achilles heel as a coach. The man is obviously far from perfect.

Do you know what the sexual misconduct charges are?

UofO wrote:

I am confident Alberto tiptoed the gray zone area for gimmicks & drugs to get ahead of the game.

But this sexual misconduct charge is ridiculous.

How do you know the charges are ridiculous? Can you tell us what the charges are then.

Ernest wrote:

The system is woke and broke.

You and others really need to get an understanding of what woke is, before using it in such misguided a manner.