"I love the pain of a hard long run": Shelby Houlihan is moving up to the Half/Full Marathon in her return.

Yes indeed. Fortunately, I saved the original exact wording, expecting repeated trolling.

Here it is:

And for those who still don't know, here are Rule 2.1 and 2.2:

In her case, it was presence of a prohibited steroid, namely nandrolone. Classic PED doping, not missing too many tests (Coleman) or tampering (Salazar, McNeal) or prohibited method (Salazar) or possession/traficking (Salazar).

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Yes, yes yes wrote:

I've heard this rumored around the team as well when I've joined for an easy run or two over the past year.

Shelby has done 10-mile sessions on the grass in well below 5:20 average on the grass. She's an areobic beast.

How is that impressive? She's a low-14 5K runner, of course she should be able to do that kind of work.

Not to mention that if the discussing is about her moving to the marathon, I sure hope she is capable of 10 mile runs slower than some women run the whole marathon.

I'd love for these letsrun people to have the balls to say these awful things they say outside the veil of their anonymity. I still don't think the case built against her was a strong one and I hope Shelby comes back and races for the US. She is a talent and has pushed other US athletes to be better.

We need more good US marathoners, unfortunately, Shelby's career will be muddied with this whole case.

Though, everyone who is adamant that she was a doper before all this are just being louder than they were before. If they think it now, they probably have always thought it--and without evidence too. Now they just feel justified in being unnecessarily rude. I am anti-doping, I am not anti-human. These people have families and are people as well. Hate the doping, not the people.

...But it doesn't matter, some troll will just bully this into oblivion.

Nike and some people in the chat don't care about scientific facts. You have a good post.

You deliberately mislead as you co join two sets rules without explanation. That is cheating and lying.

And they also lie to mislead.

rekrunner wrote:

dullard wrote:

They haven't ever called a doper a doper because that would be quite unprofessional but here on LR we call a spade a spade and in this case the spade is a doper.

That's fine for you -- I'm all for freedom of speech and all that.

The criticism at the time wasn't about any of you "here on LR", but about me not using a term that the AIU and the CAS also did not use. It continues with Armstronglivs fabricating more things I did not say, putting this argument in my mouth. It is typical of him to avoid arguing on the merits, or proving his ideas, but rather attempting to make it about me to hide this serial failure.

Armstronglivs is proud to claim he does not bother to read the rules so his opinions should be treated as lies.

Webull 2.0 wrote:

and saying anything good about a CONVICTED drug cheat is pure stupidity. How can her teammates put up with her. Tell the truth Shelby.

She was never convicted for cheating.

*'convicted doper shelby houlihan'

icrlp05 wrote:

*'convicted doper shelby houlihan'

Never convicted of cheating.

Shelby vs Gidey in Paris. I'm taking Shelby.

This gave me a good laugh. Thanks for that.

Gidey is the female incarnation of Kenny B. + Kipchoge. No number of pork burritos puts Shelby anywhere close to Gidey.

liar soorer wrote:

You deliberately mislead as you co join two sets rules without explanation. That is cheating and lying.

LOL, what? Troll somebody else, cheating liar.

liar soorer wrote:

Webull 2.0 wrote:

and saying anything good about a CONVICTED drug cheat is pure stupidity. How can her teammates put up with her. Tell the truth Shelby.

She was never convicted for cheating.

Fact: she was convicted for doping with nandrolone. Most people view that as cheating.

casual obsever wrote:

liar soorer wrote:

She was never convicted for cheating.

Fact: she was convicted for doping with nandrolone. Most people view that as cheating.

Most people have not read the rules then have they?

And you use your own words “ doping with Nandrolone “ and that was not what the rules actually and you fully know that.

So she was not convicted of doping.

Get the rules changed if you want that actual result.

casual obsever wrote:

liar soorer wrote:

You deliberately mislead as you co join two sets rules without explanation. That is cheating and lying.

LOL, what? Troll somebody else, cheating liar.

Misleading and knowingly doing so is cheating and lying.

Are you full blown retarded?

She was convicted of a doping offense with the presence of nandrolone. This is cheating. The writing is on the dang wall dude. You must be dumber than rocks. You are what’s wrong with the sport.

Sympathizing with dopers is dangerous. Taking these banned substances is not only cheating and stealing from other athletes, but it’s also really bad for your health. Holy cow some people in this thread.

dingle berry wrote:

She was convicted of a doping offense with the presence of nandrolone. This is cheating. The writing is on the dang wall dude. You must be dumber than rocks. You are what’s wrong with the sport.

Sympathizing with dopers is dangerous. Taking these banned substances is not only cheating and stealing from other athletes, but it’s also really bad for your health. Holy cow some people in this thread.

Wrong ; the Code does not rule on intent.

The word doper has meaning and the rules actually run counter to that everyday meaning.

Change the rules if you don’t like them; don’t blame me.

The rules don’t rule on whether you have taken them; again change the rules if you don’t like them. Don’t blame me I did not write them.

Why do you say I sympathise with dopers; why make things up.

And by the way; most of the drugs are on the market for helping health.

When Ruth Jebet, Jemima Sumgong or literally any Kenyan, Ethiopian, Russian athlete tests positive: DOPER! BAN THEM FOR LIFE! CHEATER CHEATER PUMPKIN EATER! When NOP gets discussed: CHEATERS! LIARS! When everyone's fave Shelby Houlihan TESTS POSITIVE for nandrolone:

liar soorer wrote:

Wrong ; the Code does not rule on intent.

The word doper has meaning and the rules actually run counter to that everyday meaning.

Change the rules if you don’t like them; don’t blame me.

The rules don’t rule on whether you have taken them; again change the rules if you don’t like them. Don’t blame me I did not write them.

Why do you say I sympathise with dopers; why make things up.

And by the way; most of the drugs are on the market for helping health.