Forrest Child wrote:
Reading too widely. I don't even know the surnames of that cheating trio. I do not live in the same country as them (UK?). I am not defending them.
It´s just too much from you'll vendetta seeking, high horse preaching bunch. You are stalkers. Period.
Yes they are based in the UK. Liverpool, England. The surname is Lewington.
Pastawithanymeat wrote:
Sadly not…
I think you would know this person and be very disappointed with the manner of way she’s acted. If you work out who it is… then you will get a water at 3 mile of ROTHWELL as a reward for all you’re hard work student.
Running clubs are for children who want to play little games of swingers or finders keepers. I know a few couples have had breakups as they have been going out for breakfast run with someone’s partner. I remember some folks at Kirkby being at Knowsley, Running Bugs also come from Knowsley. I think by next year we will have another club branching out after another fight kickstarts.
Let’s not open a discussion on a club that has a good reputation…
Like sand through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives (in running clubs).
OP sounds creepy & mentally ill
Just this wrote:
OP sounds creepy & mentally ill
No supportive comment for the cheats to go along with this one?
Thanks for the thread bump in any case 👌
Just this wrote:
OP sounds creepy & mentally ill
When people cannot refute the facts and are of low intelligence, they attack the individual thinking that this somehow changes the facts. My advice that they come clean is in their own best interests, you only have to know the story of Mike Rossi to understand the truth of this.
How many sporting cheats at any level have ever admitted wrongdoing? Very fecking few.
He’s been DQ’d and publicly outed….take the W and move on.
thoughts and prayers wrote:
How many sporting cheats at any level have ever admitted wrongdoing? Very fecking few.
This is mistaken, those who own up quickly and express regrets are very quickly forgotten, those who continue to lie are remembered for a long time (not in a good way).
AOL Lawyer wrote:
Just this wrote:
OP sounds creepy & mentally ill
When people cannot refute the facts and are of low intelligence, they attack the individual thinking that this somehow changes the facts. My advice that they come clean is in their own best interests, you only have to know the story of Mike Rossi to understand the truth of this.
The Mike Rossi thread was the weirdest thread in the entire history of letsrun. All those creepy stalkers who were obsessesd with him and followed his every movement.
Weird.
Stalker alert that sounds like runnerbean187 with Ben. Looking at the thread here he’s talking about following his every move...
I am not saying he has or hasn’t cheated but what am questioning is the fact constitutes a vicious attack on the family and one in particular, and it should be remedied.
All over social media boasting,
Searching his social media and photos,
Following his club to see if they congratulated him and know about the investigation,
Calories burn,
Session plans on Garmin Connect and Strava,
UKA affiliations of all the family,
Saying he was on the marathon and he was on the 10k,
Checked the wind and also the 2 mile down hill,
Information what his peers think of him,
Not to mention the 5k he ran in,
Then you move on to a guy who has done 3 marathons and won 2 of them in 2:18 and 2:26 and talk about 13:45 for 5k. I haven’t met this guy but forsure I’d like too.
You sound like one jealous bast*rd who is on the witch hunt for him to either give up running as you’re jealous or want him to commit suicide. It’s a vendetta as Forrest Child puts.
Focus on yourself and you’re pals for a Saturday morning run where you are all going to sweat like piss headed pigs. That’s if you even have any mates. Bet you watch pornoographic with two guys. Open up on who you are and we can settle the matter as I would like to meet you…
Pastawithanymeat wrote:
Stalker alert that sounds like runnerbean187 with Ben. Looking at the thread here he’s talking about following his every move...
I am not saying he has or hasn’t cheated but what am questioning is the fact constitutes a vicious attack on the family and one in particular, and it should be remedied.
All over social media boasting,
Searching his social media and photos,
Following his club to see if they congratulated him and know about the investigation,
Calories burn,
Session plans on Garmin Connect and Strava,
UKA affiliations of all the family,
Saying he was on the marathon and he was on the 10k,
Checked the wind and also the 2 mile down hill,
Information what his peers think of him,
Not to mention the 5k he ran in,
Then you move on to a guy who has done 3 marathons and won 2 of them in 2:18 and 2:26 and talk about 13:45 for 5k. I haven’t met this guy but forsure I’d like too.
You sound like one jealous bast*rd who is on the witch hunt for him to either give up running as you’re jealous or want him to commit suicide. It’s a vendetta as Forrest Child puts.
Focus on yourself and you’re pals for a Saturday morning run where you are all going to sweat like piss headed pigs. That’s if you even have any mates. Bet you watch pornoographic with two guys. Open up on who you are and we can settle the matter as I would like to meet you…
I am not sure if you are drunk as it is the weekend, , but half of the things you mentioned weren’t me! The double marathon guy, was brought up by someone else. I merely said I’ remembered it. The wind/Downhill again wasn’t me at all, regarding 10k. The vast majority of other points you mention would apply to most runners who I know. I would know if they had a club, usually if they have been in big races etc. I chat regularly with people at races about their progress and mine.
The stuff pertaining to Ben I couldn’t help reading if it popped up on my feed! Info was collated once it became obvious he cheated, to back up the observation.
I am not under any obligation to reveal a damn thing about myself. My aim was to expose and raise awareness of a family of cheats. Don’t get me wrong, I’m grateful for your bump which pushes this post to the top of the forum and helps with that, so if you could keep that up with a few more of those, it’d be appreciated!
Also the insults do you no favours, especially with a username that sounds like an Italian man whore.
I have a few in moderation but wouldn’t matter if it was the weekend or not…
I am not sure if you recall. I think like someone else as mentioned in this thread. Birko boy and yourself are the same person therefore it was you who said everything. Boring…
“I am not under any obligation to reveal a damn thing about myself.”
I think the whole thread should find out who you are…
So thanks for this and enjoy the bump. Might see you around... look out for me with my glasses on at cross country pal.
Pastawithanymeat wrote:
I have a few in moderation but wouldn’t matter if it was the weekend or not…
I am not sure if you recall. I think like someone else as mentioned in this thread. Birko boy and yourself are the same person therefore it was you who said everything. Boring…
“I am not under any obligation to reveal a damn thing about myself.”
I think the whole thread should find out who you are…
So thanks for this and enjoy the bump. Might see you around... look out for me with my glasses on at cross country pal.
As mentioned by Birkoboy., any mods should be able to see if we were/are the same person. Feel free to ban me if I’m lying. I would have nothing to gain from fabricating another account, and certainly not to continue the facade at this stage now that Ben has been disqualified and I feel there is good awareness of what he has done. Once this was achieved, I have backed off and then responded only to what has been thrown at me. I wish no harm to him or his family at all. As for Birkoboy, just to be 100% clear we are not the same person, and any responses written by me have came from this username.
If at Sefton Park XC you may well see me there without knowing it yes.
Stalker alert wrote:
The Mike Rossi thread was the weirdest thread in the entire history of letsrun. All those creepy stalkers who were obsessesd with him and followed his every movement.
Weird.
It was completely explicable if you understand a few simple facts of human nature, decent people don't like cheating or obnoxious, self-aggrandising jerks. When you factor in the threats and the sock-puppeting, none of what happened is remotely weird.
What is weird is people who claim to be incapable of understanding this. Of course if you are someone who identifies with these characteristics then I can see it would cause a lot of discomfort.
Stalker alert wrote:
AOL Lawyer wrote:
When people cannot refute the facts and are of low intelligence, they attack the individual thinking that this somehow changes the facts. My advice that they come clean is in their own best interests, you only have to know the story of Mike Rossi to understand the truth of this.
The Mike Rossi thread was the weirdest thread in the entire history of letsrun. All those creepy stalkers who were obsessesd with him and followed his every movement.
Weird.
Didn't follow the thread or read it, but obviously you did;)
The thread was apparently your obsession as you were reading it and probably commenting on it. Feel better now?
I had actually decided to leave this to run its course, but I have been contacted by a member of the club with information that Ben is trying to cover his tracks by deleting the doctored picture of his Berlin run from his post, to hinder the club investigation. Unfortunately I don’t have access to the club page to show the post before and after the photo was deleted, but this will show club members and investigators within the club he is attempting to cover his tracks. Clearly the act of a guilty man.
This photo will show that he did indeed have the image attached to his post initially . I am sure the people who run the club page can also check this from the activity logs:
We will again now leave it there. Unless Ben (aka therunningman1357) wishes to refute all of this by putting all of his undoctored, genuine Garmin info from the race on here. Or even refute therunningman1357 is yourself, so I can again discredit your continual bull crap further.
Some will call this vindictive or whatever,, but he is clearly not the slightest bit remorseful or sorry based upon his actions. Just let the club investigate and allow them to judge this upon the facts Mr Lewington. Stop trying to even cheat the investigation.
In the above post you may need to click on the square or the middle of the imgur link to see the photo 👍 I’m not the most tech minded!
His post says he wanted to run 2:34. If he cut the course why not cut an extra 10 minutes off?
summary please wrote:
His post says he wanted to run 2:34. If he cut the course why not cut an extra 10 minutes off?
He was never going to run that and he knew it. That is why he kept that time detail on his club page. If he mentioned that to his wider running friends he would have been laughed out of the building. He wanted to cheat, but not break the club record so it would go under the radar most likely. If he ran a 2:35 he knew the shock factor would have brought a lot of attention from fellow runners. Last year he was saying he was on for a sub 32 minute 10k 😂
It is beyond doubt that he cut the course in any case. From an official capacity Berlin have already determined that.
From looking at the results of the three, the goal just seems to have been making sure their times were comfortably enough to get them Good For Age London times, without the scrutiny championship qualification would bring too.
Let’s just hope this somehow makes him a better person now that people know. With the denials though, I feel it is unlikely.
If your saying someone from the clubs come to you to say the investigations being hampered then either your in this with someone or your in his club.
You've now got to the point where you're all talk and not actually helping in the slightest. Unless you've got decent info then please stop just mentioning things that have nothing to do with the Berlin incident.
No ones arsed if he said he can run a 32min 10k.
elitecnut wrote:
If your saying someone from the clubs come to you to say the investigations being hampered then either your in this with someone or your in his club.
You've now got to the point where you're all talk and not actually helping in the slightest. Unless you've got decent info then please stop just mentioning things that have nothing to do with the Berlin incident.
No ones arsed if he said he can run a 32min 10k.
But it does show the type of person he is.
Clearly OP is close to people in his club or he wouldn't have got the initial tip.