Cole Hocker turns pro, signs w Nike

Packbacker wrote:

industry cat wrote:

this is FALSE. SCIENTIFICALLY FALSE. The Vaccine is far superior to natural immunity.

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NOPE. fake news

It's too bad that he chose to sign with Nike. I know professional runners don't have many options available to them and I'm sure Cole Hocker has tons of Nike connections due to being at Oregon and got a solid, well-deserved contract. But from this day forward, the fact of the matter is that he is in bed with a shady organization that has been involved in several major doping busts. As far as I'm concerned, Nike is a pro-PED organization. Habitual, arrogant line steppers. If you are serious about clean sport and don't want to be wrongfully suspected of doping, then you shouldn't be associating with them and their dirty money anymore. It's that simple.

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

It's too bad that he chose to sign with Nike. I know professional runners don't have many options available to them and I'm sure Cole Hocker has tons of Nike connections due to being at Oregon and got a solid, well-deserved contract. But from this day forward, the fact of the matter is that he is in bed with a shady organization that has been involved in several major doping busts. As far as I'm concerned, Nike is a pro-PED organization. Habitual, arrogant line steppers. If you are serious about clean sport and don't want to be wrongfully suspected of doping, then you shouldn't be associating with them and their dirty money anymore. It's that simple.

Hocker has been on the "supplement" train from day one at oregon, if not sooner.

oregon = nike = doping cheaters

oregon juice wrote:

Hocker has been on the "supplement" train from day one at oregon, if not sooner.

oregon = nike = doping cheaters

Yeah, I'm inclined to doubt that many (or any) Oregon athletes are actually on some juice, but that's a fair speculation as long as the University continues to enjoy such a close association with a corporation that has a long history of sponsoring and defending cheaters. Selling out has its drawbacks!

It not fake! The vaccine goes after the spike on cell surface ; whereas, natural immunity knows more of the cell surface in addition to the spike. ( I am paraphrasing but was from virologist John’s Hopkins )

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

oregon juice wrote:

Hocker has been on the "supplement" train from day one at oregon, if not sooner.

oregon = nike = doping cheaters

Yeah, I'm inclined to doubt that many (or any) Oregon athletes are actually on some juice, but that's a fair speculation as long as the University continues to enjoy such a close association with a corporation that has a long history of sponsoring and defending cheaters. Selling out has its drawbacks!

T&F athletes make peanuts in the scheme of things, probably .001% of Nike's sponsored athlete budget. What about NFL, NBA, MLB, tennis and golf athletes? Should everyone on the face of the planet leave Nike en masse? How about middle and high school programs, college programs, sports league funding. Just say no to Nike?

Without your guidance I must be living my life wrong. I need to see the Gallant Pig Man and Oregon Juuice's official God-approved list of perfect companies whispered into their ears by God so I know who to work for or where to buy products.

There is very little “natural” immunity if one has had Covid. In fact, the best data we have shows that most antibodies decrease rapidly after a couple months.

Also, having had one strain of Covid in no way protects you from a different strain. That’s what viruses do that can replicate in millions of bodies. They mutate into something a bit different so the high rate of replication continues, as in Delta variant.

There are at least two new variants emerging besides Delta, and the virus will just keep infecting and killing until a vast majority of people get fully vaccinated and wear masks in public spaces that are indoor or poorly ventilated.

The ongoing pandemic of the unvaccinated will continue to drag us all down for no good reason.

Wow,

Finding it very interesting that Hockers pro announcement has generated only 6 pages of LRC (and some of it COVID blather) response.

From a marketing perspective this shows nobody cares a whole lot about this athlete.

That’s not good.

I am have trepidation’s thinking that all of the oly trials postings about Hocker v. Centroid were from owners and moderators, I really hope not.

But this kid has an uphill battle now with his demographic after being the anti establishment wunderkid, to being the corporate lackey...

a comment from the peanut gallery wrote:

T&F athletes make peanuts in the scheme of things, probably .001% of Nike's sponsored athlete budget. What about NFL, NBA, MLB, tennis and golf athletes? Should everyone on the face of the planet leave Nike en masse? How about middle and high school programs, college programs, sports league funding. Just say no to Nike?

Ideally, yes. Nike is a bad company and it would be great if everyone would stopping business with them. But that's a whole different topic.

I'm not saying "Boycott Nike," I'm saying don't run with a Nike logo on your bib and expect me/other track fans to be enthusiastic when you run fast times. Obviously no one in track and field can be totally above suspicion, but Nike is particularly and irreparably untrustworthy. Whether it is referring athletes to Nike-sponsored doctors who wrongfully prescribe TUEs/PEDs and subsequently get banned from the sport, providing PR for coaches involved in "grey area" doping schemes, or helping to concoct ridiculous legal defense efforts on behalf of its busted athletes, Nike has been a modern day trailblazer for cheaty cheatertons and it is run by people with a well-documented history of sociopathic behavior. If you want to just shrug your shoulders at that, fine, but I'm gonna keep talking sh*t about them.

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

oregon juice wrote:

Hocker has been on the "supplement" train from day one at oregon, if not sooner.

oregon = nike = doping cheaters

Yeah, I'm inclined to doubt that many (or any) Oregon athletes are actually on some juice, but that's a fair speculation as long as the University continues to enjoy such a close association with a corporation that has a long history of sponsoring and defending cheaters. Selling out has its drawbacks!

Haha,of course they are,how else did he improve 11 seconds in 1 year,despite what the lovers here say,if it was a black foreigner they'd be all over it denouncing him as a doped up cheat yet in the US its all good.

industry cat wrote:

cramberrys wrote:

Cole Hocker has natural immunity, which we know is superior to vaccine immunity. Let the others get the vaccine, he's at no risk himself from covid and is less likely compared to unvaccinated without natural immunity and vaccinated without natural immunity to spread the virus. Potential extra benefit from the vaccine is just diminishing returns for *eventual* side effects.

this is FALSE. SCIENTIFICALLY FALSE. The Vaccine is far superior to natural immunity.

evidence? other than CNN

Runner10287 wrote:

industry cat wrote:

The vaccine works, stfu

Sure. Plenty of things work. Doesn’t make them useful for 99% of the population.

Yep

he's peaked, all downhill from here.

He’s probably too chicken to actually join the Army and even if he did, he’d probably wanna be an officer which apparently is much more difficult to join WCAP that route. Not to mention cutting his hair!

Simmons seems shady as heck anyway. His ADP “staff” is just a bunch of inexperienced coaches and uncertified “medical professionals.” Anything to line his pockets…