flvmmox wrote:
plucky brits dont dope
Oh dear, it looks like the African doping apologists and the American hypocrites shot their load a little too early again.
Probably be another 500 Kenayn/American doping busts before the next British middle-distance 'bust'.
Amos runs like a mad man in Tokyo again and goes through the bell in 48 seconds, Dustin passes him in the home straight for a British gold. Giles gets bronze.
Likely it's due to cross contamination or just outright bs. TPTB are indulging in this type of thing right now to cast suspicion on Westerners in order to keep up with some of the ridiculous performances that certain third world athletes - and athletes deemed to be from the "right stock" from first world countries - are going to provide in Tokyo. One poster mentioned Amos as if a disciple of Aden's who was very quiet after that bust could ever be considered as such.
ex-runner wrote:
It's Sha'Carri Richardson again.
Or maybe more like Shawn Barber the Canadian Pole Vaulter....
shaun didn't even use like 'carri, he got it from a prostitute's saliva 🤣🤮
moultonk wrote:
Well, look at that... It turns out the report was false and he didn't have cocaine in his system after all! Yet, many of you were so CERTAIN of his guilt. Could it be that WADA gets it wrong sometimes? Is this a one-in-a-million mistake at the lab, or is it conceivable other WADA tests have been wrong in the past?
"He definitely used it recreationally. Very stupid decision, especially before the Olympics."
"What an idiot. He has to be banned."
"Poor decision making and I hope the guy involved gets his life straightened out."
How about some mea culpas, corrections, apologies from these users?
600mRunner
LOLOLOL
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ex-runner
whoooopsie
joed|rt
High hopes
post nups
pacc76
stan the corgi
you could have posted some evidence;
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9789207/British-Olympic-gold-medal-hopeful-Oliver-Dustin-set-escape-sanctions.htmlThis is absolutely outrageous. It opens up legitimate questions about just about everything.
One day the kid is a dope head, the next he is absolutely cleared.
what are the repercussions for the lab or whoever screwed up?
moultonk wrote:
Well, look at that... It turns out the report was false and he didn't have cocaine in his system after all! Yet, many of you were so CERTAIN of his guilt. Could it be that WADA gets it wrong sometimes? Is this a one-in-a-million mistake at the lab, or is it conceivable other WADA tests have been wrong in the past?
"He definitely used it recreationally. Very stupid decision, especially before the Olympics."
"What an idiot. He has to be banned."
"Poor decision making and I hope the guy involved gets his life straightened out."
How about some mea culpas, corrections, apologies from these users?
600mRunner
LOLOLOL
zoomN
ex-runner
whoooopsie
joed|rt
High hopes
post nups
pacc76
stan the corgi
Completely. I jumped the gun on this. Looks like a lab screw-up. It looks like the lab investigated their own procedures and found out themselves. It's actually a sign of a system working well when it corrects its own mistakes. The problem here was that a journalist got a scoop and ran to press before all the facts were out, and me (and other posters) jumped on that. Anyway, I hope the kid does well in Tokyo, at the very least this experience has lost him opportunities to run fast times in Monaco and maybe earn some prize money, which is a shame for him
I think the addictive qualities of cocaine is going to be his biggest problem. Hopefully it was one and done.
Shame he missed Monaco because of this screw up on the part of the lab. I wonder if he still got his appearance fee. Hopefully he'll sue both the lab and the Times.
French anti'doping clearly a joke. They can't catch all the doping Morrocans who run for them, or Mak Daddy who is based there, but they can contaminate a clean British kid's sample with cocaine.
hobbyjogger1 wrote:
I think the addictive qualities of cocaine is going to be his biggest problem. Hopefully it was one and done.
It was a lab screw-up. Read the thread.
Elliot Giles just posted this on Instagram. He seems a really great guy.
trollism wrote:
hobbyjogger1 wrote:
I think the addictive qualities of cocaine is going to be his biggest problem. Hopefully it was one and done.
It was a lab screw-up. Read the thread.
Cross contamination as in the Paul Edwards case but at least the French lab has not covered up.
Who pays for his loss of earnings and reputation ?
Number 32 wrote:
flvmmox wrote:
plucky brits dont dope
Oh dear, it looks like the African doping apologists and the American hypocrites shot their load a little too early again.
Probably be another 500 Kenayn/American doping busts before the next British middle-distance 'bust'.
Amos runs like a mad man in Tokyo again and goes through the bell in 48 seconds, Dustin passes him in the home straight for a British gold. Giles gets bronze.
So now all of a sudden it is totally legitimate for a B sample to overturn a mishandled A sample, as if you’ve never scoffed at such other cases before…
High hopes wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Cocaine is an actually dangerous substance unlike Richardson's marijuana use. This is troubling unless he has trace amounts because it showed up in a milder street drug inadvertently. That would still be bad, but at least it would be better than a 20-year-old with a coke habit.
Sorry, man, but that's such a boomer view on drugs. Cocaine is no more dangerous than weed. Tbh, I've never known anyone have any issues taking cocaine (other than heightening how annoying they are) but I do know someone who suffers from cannabis-induced psychosis and has had to be institutionalized. So, you know, don't tell me weed is harmless. They're both recreational drugs, they both deserve a ban
Well you got one point right. Weed is definitely not all sunshine and rainbows like people want you to believe. But cocaine is undoubtedly more dangerous than pot lol. First off you have no idea what it’s cut with, buying it is a lot more dangerous and you can DIE from it lol especially when mixed with other drugs. Oh and there’s the part where you can shoot it or turn it into crack and smoke it. I hate marijuana but I can’t go that far lol.
surveysays wrote:
Number 32 wrote:
Oh dear, it looks like the African doping apologists and the American hypocrites shot their load a little too early again.
Probably be another 500 Kenayn/American doping busts before the next British middle-distance 'bust'.
Amos runs like a mad man in Tokyo again and goes through the bell in 48 seconds, Dustin passes him in the home straight for a British gold. Giles gets bronze.
So now all of a sudden it is totally legitimate for a B sample to overturn a mishandled A sample, as if you’ve never scoffed at such other cases before…
This wasn't overturned on his B sample. It was overturned because the lab realised there had been cross contamination.
This isn't some miracle Lagat type situation.
He didn’t take anything it was a lab f*ck up and even worse one by the newspaper to jump on a crappy lead and ruin a poor kids rep for no reason
trollism wrote:
surveysays wrote:
So now all of a sudden it is totally legitimate for a B sample to overturn a mishandled A sample, as if you’ve never scoffed at such other cases before…
This wasn't overturned on his B sample. It was overturned because the lab realised there had been cross contamination.
This isn't some miracle Lagat type situation.
Mishandled A samples. Tomato tomato.
Fingers crossed he keeps his nose clean now.
surveysays wrote:
Mishandled A samples. Tomato tomato.
Well no.
In Lagat's situation he failed a drug test because there was EPO in his sample, and then he hired the best people in the business for getting people off doping charges and lo and behold, his B sample was negative.
There was no cross contamination there, Saugy clearly threatened to blow the lid off something and that's how miracles happen children.
trollism wrote:
surveysays wrote:
Mishandled A samples. Tomato tomato.
Well no.
In Lagat's situation he failed a drug test because there was EPO in his sample, and then he hired the best people in the business for getting people off doping charges and lo and behold, his B sample was negative.
There was no cross contamination there, Saugy clearly threatened to blow the lid off something and that's how miracles happen children.
Haha! That is a take from a place of ignorance. You should actually read up on the Lagat case.
surveysays wrote:
trollism wrote:
Well no.
In Lagat's situation he failed a drug test because there was EPO in his sample, and then he hired the best people in the business for getting people off doping charges and lo and behold, his B sample was negative.
There was no cross contamination there, Saugy clearly threatened to blow the lid off something and that's how miracles happen children.
Haha! That is a take from a place of ignorance. You should actually read up on the Lagat case.
+1
it is so terrible that this guy's reputation is destroyed because of some incompetent lab's mix up and the press running with this story before all the facts were in