BREAKING NEWS !!! - Mboma (48.54) WITHDRAWN from the 400 in the Olympics (Yes, Really)

HashTag wrote:

Not Surprised At All wrote:

Athing Mu has been a star runner for SEVERAL YEARS.

Mboma went from mediocre runner to number 1 in the world in a FEW MONTHS.

Big Difference!

Mboma is allegedly 18. Why would she have been a star for SEVERAL YEARS?

That makes no sense. First of all, Athing Mu was 18 until 4 or 5 weeks ago, and she has been a star runner for several years. Being 18 years old doesn't stop anyone from being a star runner for several years.

Second, Mboma's 400 PB went from 51.5 down to 48.5 in just 3 months. No other 48 second female runner in the history of the world has ever went down that quickly. There isn't even another female 400 runner that has even been close to doing that!

Third, Mboma is intersex. Like I said - "If a teenage woman comes out of no where and becomes the best in the world within a few months, then they are probably intersex."

Not Surprised At All wrote:

Could they have stayed as local runners running 51.5 in local events in their own country without anyone knowing they are intersex? Probably.

Unlikely. Any grown male who watches this will know that Mboma is not a biological female. It is possible that the local Namibian spectators wouldn't care, but on the international stage, those of us who have been involved in the sport for decades are not easily fooled.

Not Surprised At All wrote:

HashTag wrote:

Mboma is allegedly 18. Why would she have been a star for SEVERAL YEARS?

That makes no sense. First of all, Athing Mu was 18 until 4 or 5 weeks ago, and she has been a star runner for several years. Being 18 years old doesn't stop anyone from being a star runner for several years.

Second, Mboma's 400 PB went from 51.5 down to 48.5 in just 3 months. No other 48 second female runner in the history of the world has ever went down that quickly. There isn't even another female 400 runner that has even been close to doing that!

Third, Mboma is intersex. Like I said - "If a teenage woman comes out of no where and becomes the best in the world within a few months, then they are probably intersex."

Not sure why you would need to lie about Athing Mu’s age. She is 19. Mboma is in Namibia. Are you aware of her opportunities to train well and compete before this year? She did NOT have all the advantages that Mu has had when it comes to coaching and training environment.

Neither Mu, McLaughlin, nor Decker dropped their 400 PB 3 seconds in 3 months.

World Athletics took her out of the 400 and left her in the 200, so we know for sure it's not drugs. And Mboma can't take herself out of the World Athletics eligibility lists, because it has nothing to do with who is actually on an Olympic team, it's merely a list of athletes who are ELIGIBLE for the Olympics.

Intersex woman CAN'T run 400 - 1 mile, but they CAN run the 200. So Mboma is intersex.

I doubled checked and Athing Mu wasn't 18 four or five weeks ago. She was 18 only THREE WEEKS ago. Happy now? Her birthday was June 8 to be exact.

Yes, I realize that Namibia does't have the same training advantages as some other countries. That still doesn't change anything about the fact that Mboma's 400 PB went from 51.5 down to 48.5 in just 3 months. No other 48 second female runner in the history of the world has ever went down that quickly. There isn't even another female 400 runner that has even been close to doing that!

Maybe you want to triple check her age. I am TRYING to be nice here.

Congratulations website LetsRun.com for breaking the news.

HashTagg wrote:

Not Surprised At All wrote:

I doubled checked and Athing Mu wasn't 18 four or five weeks ago. She was 18 only THREE WEEKS ago. Happy now? Her birthday was June 8 to be exact.

Yes, I realize that Namibia does't have the same training advantages as some other countries. That still doesn't change anything about the fact that Mboma's 400 PB went from 51.5 down to 48.5 in just 3 months. No other 48 second female runner in the history of the world has ever went down that quickly. There isn't even another female 400 runner that has even been close to doing that!

Maybe you want to triple check her age. I am TRYING to be nice here.

Athing Mu

Born: June 8, 2002 (age 19 years)

Athing Mu was 18 on Jun 7 and then turned 19 on June 8. That was 3 weeks ago.

Which still doesn't change anything about the fact that Mboma had the fastest 51.5 to 48.5 400m drop of any woman in history by A LOT. Which makes a lot of people think that she was probably intersex. World Athletics agrees, which is why Mboma is now only in the 200, not the 400, on their eligibility lists.

It took Mu THREE YEARS to drop 2.9 seconds in her 400m PB, from 52.4 down to 49.5 . Mboma dropped 3 seconds in THREE MONTHS! That's a very big difference.

justastupido wrote:

Samuel Mahele Akili wrote:

Many are but never notice it as they don't go into sports all this stuff about DSD women having testes is junk if these women wre not in sports they will never know

Rubbish that they’d never know without sport. No breast development and no periods gives the game away by the mid teenage years.

You are right I did research DSD is more serious than I thought this article sheds light

An epic failure in logic on your part. Why does the huge drop prove she is intersex? She apparently is intersex BUT if she is, she has been all along so that in itself does not explain her huge drop in time.

An epic failure in logic on your part. Why does the huge drop prove she is intersex? She apparently is intersex BUT if she is, she has been all along so that in itself does not explain her huge drop in time.

I feel so sorry for the athletes not because the cannot compete but DSD is actually a serious condition

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/differences-in-sex-development/

HashTagg wrote:

https://www.namibian.com.na/103076/read/Mboma-Masilingi-withdrawn-from-Olympics-400m

Congratulations website LetsRun.com for breaking the news.

You mean congratulations me?

HashTagg wrote:

An epic failure in logic on your part. Why does the huge drop prove she is intersex? She apparently is intersex BUT if she is, she has been all along so that in itself does not explain her huge drop in time.

Because as soon as an intersex woman starts seriously training, their times drop MUCH faster than a 100% biological woman.

If a 100% biological woman that had a 51.5 400m PB earlier this year had trained along side of Mboma, the 100% biological woman wouldn't have dropped anywhere near 3 seconds. Maybe .5 seconds or 1.0 seconds, but not 3 seconds. 100% biological woman simply can't improve that fast, because their levels of testosterone are too low.

Not Surprised At All wrote:

HashTagg wrote:

An epic failure in logic on your part. Why does the huge drop prove she is intersex? She apparently is intersex BUT if she is, she has been all along so that in itself does not explain her huge drop in time.

Because as soon as an intersex woman starts seriously training, their times drop MUCH faster than a 100% biological woman.

If a 100% biological woman that had a 51.5 400m PB earlier this year had trained along side of Mboma, the 100% biological woman wouldn't have dropped anywhere near 3 seconds. Maybe .5 seconds or 1.0 seconds, but not 3 seconds. 100% biological woman simply can't improve that fast, because their levels of testosterone are too low.

Oh so now you are changing your facts as you see fit and saying she just recently started serious training. This does not fit your previously convenient narrative.

Samuel Mahele Akili wrote:

I feel so sorry for the athletes not because the cannot compete but DSD is actually a serious condition

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/differences-in-sex-development/

Agree. It’s actually sad, confusing and horrible for these people. However, in elite sport there are two categories because males are clearly stronger and faster than women due to inherent biological characteristics. There would be no female elite competition if biological males were allowed to compete in the female category - a simple fact. Having biological males compete against biological females is simply monstrously unfair to all biological females who deserve to be able to compete and be recognized as the best and elite in their own right. It doesn’t take away from a DsD person’s humanity to admit that they do indeed have an unfair advantage due to their biological male status (for most of them anyway..we’re talking about XY DSD males here). It just means that these DSD XYs can’t compete in elite female sport. They are free to compete in the men’s open section. The women’s category is for biological females only. Or there simply is no female elite sport.

Well, the Europeans were voluntarily cheating, but these Africans that are being banned are just running as they are born. I actually think the IAAF has a bigger issue on their hands than just banning individual athletes. Most of the athletes that have been banned are Black Africans. What does that mean? Why is that? Also, just because Black Africans have a genetic advantage versus others, that means they should be banned? Many of these questions need to be answered.

You hit the nail on the head

HashTagg wrote:

Not Surprised At All wrote:

I doubled checked and Athing Mu wasn't 18 four or five weeks ago. She was 18 only THREE WEEKS ago. Happy now? Her birthday was June 8 to be exact.

Yes, I realize that Namibia does't have the same training advantages as some other countries. That still doesn't change anything about the fact that Mboma's 400 PB went from 51.5 down to 48.5 in just 3 months. No other 48 second female runner in the history of the world has ever went down that quickly. There isn't even another female 400 runner that has even been close to doing that!

Maybe you want to triple check her age. I am TRYING to be nice here.

The suspense is killing me! What was his dastardly motivation for misrepresenting the young lady's age by a few days?