rojo wrote:
Barry Badrinath wrote:
Rojo, you guys are some of the biggest proponents for open discussion of doping. This seems pretty cut and dry. Positive test, bad excuse, appeal rejected, 4-year ban. Do you think this is a good thing that Shelby was caught and banned?
I like to deal in facts, not innuendo.
lol
Another giver of +1 wrote:
JohnNgugi wrote:
There's zero chance Schumacher would condone, promote, or attempt to conceal any doping. He's an absolute purist.
I know most of you doucheclowns like to pound one out thinking about how everyone is dirty, but you're barking up the wrong tree here.
So pure that he doesn't know what Nandrolone is.
++++1
Passant wrote:
range wrote:
If she ate pork you'll let her off?
Mo Farah and S. Hassan dont eat pork.
https://m2w4k5m5.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Mo-Farah-0831.jpghttps://m2w4k5m5.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sifan-hassan-0831-2.jpg
Explains why Mo Farah is struggling to run a 10k Olympic time now.
excuse my humor wrote:
rojo wrote:
Shelby, Jerry and Shalane and the lawyer made some very powerful statements at the press event today.
I know many of you won't watch to an hour-;ong video so we are going turn today's press event into a podcast as it's much easier for you all to listen to something of that length while commuting or running.
In the meantime, we've also spliced out Shelby, Jerry's and Shalane's opening statements.
Some of my favorite quotes from Shelby are below.
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Pardon my immaturity, but this made me LOL. Classic Rojo.
Also she’s guilty AF, doped to the gills.
Rojo = cheerleader
Just like a white chick to blame Mexicans. And just like Clay Johnson's kid to buy it.
Ray Cyst wrote:
Funny how suddenly they care about people's lives being ruined. No one seemed to care when hurling allegations at people who did not test positive. Hearing the chutzpah of Kara Goucher on there with anything to say on this subject was absolutely stunning. Apparently only the people who beat here were doping but not he poor, sweet little innocent Shelbo.
Also, it's absolutely hilarious that Shalane says, and I want to make sure I get this exactly; "the tests by WADA are now so sensitive that they pick up trace amounts of banned substances from unexpected sources." But, apparently not sensitive enough to catch the master dopers from Ethiopia and Kenya, where they apparently have the super high tech doping system to thwart the detectors. Then she goes on to complain about losing medals to dopers during her career. Some I may add that NEVER TESTED POSITIVE as her athlete did. That takes some pretty big ones and a major mental disconnect to hold the positions that these people hold. It's freaking amazing!
She's a doper.
Career over.
The end.
I hear a barista at Starbucks is a pretty good gig.
Hey, be nice! She's an Arizona State grad, she can probably sell real estate, too.
rojo wrote:
I'll say one thing. Without hesitation, I'd be my life that Jerry Schumacher has never knowingly doped one of his athletes. I couldn't say the same thing about Alberto Salazar.
Then please explain EXACTLY and FULLY WHY? Are you basing this mostly if not fully on public perception? How would you possibly know Schumacher well enough to automatically clear him and any athlete he's worked with? Which of AlSal's athletes had an adverse finding in blood values? Sheeeit, it's entirely possible both Jager and Flanagan doped under his watch, to name just two. What of brittle Emily Infeld, Woody Kincaid, old man Lomong, rapid rising Cranny? FOH.
One stores oxygen in spleen. Watch men in Olympics, 50 metre freestyle. All in finals take a breath before hitting water and do not breathe the duration of race. Elite free divers can old their breath for over ten minutes. Stored oxygen in spleen. One would think elite track athletes competing in every track event would need a well functioning spleen. See need for PEDs.
Sans gallbladder may make it more difficult to process fats. A person without gallbladder may be more apt to suffer diarrhea. One would think an endurance athlete would need a well functioning gallbladder. See need for PEDs.
Poster, there was no Mexican food consumed. Go back and review Susan Smith murder case. Houlihan had an opportunity during appeals process to prove she consumed PEDs without intent.
rojo wrote:
Barry Badrinath wrote:
Rojo, you guys are some of the biggest proponents for open discussion of doping. This seems pretty cut and dry. Positive test, bad excuse, appeal rejected, 4-year ban. Do you think this is a good thing that Shelby was caught and banned?
The full decision is out. I like to deal in facts, not innuendo.
I think ti's a good think if a doper is caught and banned. I think it's a TRAVESTY if an innocent person is caught and banned.
I'll say one thing. Without hesitation, I'd be my life that Jerry Schumacher has never knowingly doped one of his athletes. I couldn't say the same thing about Alberto Salazar. That being said, the Salazar ban didn't sit well with me. Catch him doping his athletes. Instead Salazar is banned for doping his son and a retired assistant coach? If anyone is crazy enough to worry about contamination, it woud be Alberto himself.
Does this mean she's clean? No. I need more info.
-Rojo
PS. We've been obsessed with doping on here since day 1. Back in the days of Bonds vs McGuire when the media just ignored doping, I had the guts to ask Regina Jacobs about why she pulled out of the Olympics days after an EP0 test was announced. It was so obvious to me she was a doper yet all the meet promoters just accepted her with open arms.
I knew she was a doper without proof. Here. I want to see the proof as I never had any real suspicions before rumors of this started a few weeks ago.and since this isstream of conciousness. .
1. Never bet your life. But nobody would collect on that. Still, never.
2. You "knew without proof. " He says after saying “facts, not innuendo”. You can’t have it both ways.
3. You SO play favorites. Here, and Paula Radcliffe. And others. Salazar? Nope.
4. You are obsessed with doping by those you suspect, but not at all so those you think are clean even when they test positive.
I am in the don’t-know section of your poll. I just wish you were able to stay more even-handed. Others you just know. And sometimes you wil be correct, but sometimes you commit the travesty of making most folks believe someone is guilty who may well be innocent. With the power of the best running news website that mixes in innuendo and blame and supposition and plays clear favorites. Betting your life is an example of that.
