hyundai owner wrote:
Infeld's fiancé isn't anyone high up at Nike.
Hall is one of my favorite runners and has made teams and works out with the longer distance runners. That said, if you take her off BTC you have a bunch of Karens.
Hall has had some pretty solid results--8th in the 10000 at Doha--plus as you mentioned she gives BTC more diversity...
Colleen should find a steeple manufacturer to sponsor her.
Lots of pics of her running, jumping, airborne, hurdling, clearing, smiling, and landing.
paul72 wrote:
hyundai owner wrote:
Infeld's fiancé isn't anyone high up at Nike.
Hall is one of my favorite runners and has made teams and works out with the longer distance runners. That said, if you take her off BTC you have a bunch of Karens.
Hall has had some pretty solid results--8th in the 10000 at Doha--plus as you mentioned she gives BTC more diversity...
Why should “diversity” play any part into Hall’s presence on her team? Her accolades speak for themselves. Color of skin or gender should play no part in acquisition of ANY job- why would you not want the best person to fill the slot? People are done a disservice when positions are granted based on anything but merit and performance. Again, Hall’s accolades stand alone. It’s offensive to insinuate otherwise.
quickly is racing later this week so odds are she’s just distancing from her teammates so doesn’t come in contact with covid by chance
What race?
Because Nike goes out of its way to promote diversity for the sake of diversity. Of course Nike is in favor of hiring a person of color over a white candidate if their qualifications are even close. It is no secret. They would advertise that as a positive aspect of their company.
check her instagram
CQInsiderTrading wrote:
Colleen, like any athlete, talked to other companies as her contract with Nike was expiring. It's no secret she is highly marketable and has great shots of making future Olympic and WC teams. So naturally, she received several high offers. Nike has first right of refusal and the ability to match other offers. Word is- Nike matched at least 2 offers. However, there was a 3rd offer allegedly in the ballpark of what Molly Seidel was offered by Puma.. although people tend to exaggerate and I also heard it was a little less.. but I don't know Molly's final number either. The catch is- the bonus structure isn't as potentially lucrative as Nike's so even though the offer seems way better at first, it might not be That much better. So Colleen has been in negotiations to improve the bonus structure or get Nike to shell out a higher base. Apparently there's been some factors in play regarding representation and non-shoe company sponsors- although these are likely minor factors (I would think). Of course, if Colleen goes with the other company, she'd have to leave BTC- which could be a pretty big factor as she's obviously has success with them.
So Colleen is still with BTC, but that could change at any moment (Heck, it may have already changed.. but probably not).
If I had to guess what would happen... man I really don't know. Nike doesn't necessarily need to pay THAT much. They'll get a lot of publicity from BTC regardless. But they could easily match it and it'd just be another drop in the bucket for them (Plus they've had some other money free up). My gut says Colleen will say with BTC... but I lose the majority of my bets.
This is pretty hilarious. So much effort into making stuff up/passing on things that someone else made up.
Anyway, they're all racing this weekend (BTC +CQ). So everyone will find out what the deal is when Quigley lines up wearing a BTC/Nike singlet or not.
"She's just working out by herself to avoid covid ahead of a race!" Right, so the woman she is living with - Gabriela DeBues-Stafford, has been doing BTC workouts but not Quigley? Makes heaps of sense.
i run and I know things wrote:
CQInsiderTrading wrote:
Colleen, like any athlete, talked to other companies as her contract with Nike was expiring. It's no secret she is highly marketable and has great shots of making future Olympic and WC teams. So naturally, she received several high offers. Nike has first right of refusal and the ability to match other offers. Word is- Nike matched at least 2 offers. However, there was a 3rd offer allegedly in the ballpark of what Molly Seidel was offered by Puma.. although people tend to exaggerate and I also heard it was a little less.. but I don't know Molly's final number either. The catch is- the bonus structure isn't as potentially lucrative as Nike's so even though the offer seems way better at first, it might not be That much better. So Colleen has been in negotiations to improve the bonus structure or get Nike to shell out a higher base. Apparently there's been some factors in play regarding representation and non-shoe company sponsors- although these are likely minor factors (I would think). Of course, if Colleen goes with the other company, she'd have to leave BTC- which could be a pretty big factor as she's obviously has success with them.
So Colleen is still with BTC, but that could change at any moment (Heck, it may have already changed.. but probably not).
If I had to guess what would happen... man I really don't know. Nike doesn't necessarily need to pay THAT much. They'll get a lot of publicity from BTC regardless. But they could easily match it and it'd just be another drop in the bucket for them (Plus they've had some other money free up). My gut says Colleen will say with BTC... but I lose the majority of my bets.
This is pretty hilarious. So much effort into making stuff up/passing on things that someone else made up.
Anyway, they're all racing this weekend (BTC +CQ). So everyone will find out what the deal is when Quigley lines up wearing a BTC/Nike singlet or not.
"She's just working out by herself to avoid covid ahead of a race!" Right, so the woman she is living with - Gabriela DeBues-Stafford, has been doing BTC workouts but not Quigley? Makes heaps of sense.
Agree, however it may not clarify the Nike situation, but she has to run in something. She is still posting images ( although older "shoot" pics ) of her in Nike attire so she may be in a generic Nike top with no BTC and still wearing Nike shoes.
my pretty pony wrote:
Why should “diversity” play any part into Hall’s presence on her team? Her accolades speak for themselves. Color of skin or gender should play no part in acquisition of ANY job- why would you not want the best person to fill the slot? People are done a disservice when positions are granted based on anything but merit and performance. Again, Hall’s accolades stand alone. It’s offensive to insinuate otherwise.
What you fail to understand is that the "job" of a BTC runners isn't to win races, it's to sell shoes -- if not in a direct way, then by improving the brand's reputation and increasing its outreach. Why do you think NOP had "token" runners from a variety of different countries (Farah from GB, Levins from Canada, Osako from Japan, Koko from Germany)? It's not because they were "the next fastest runner in the world" and thus the best person for the job. If that was the case, they would have brought in Kenyan or Ethiopian runners who (in the case of Levins or Osako, at least) would have run faster for less money. But Nike felt those runners could boost its reputation/visibility in other markets.
I fully agree that Hall is worthy of a spot on BTC purely on the basis of her running accomplishments. But to note that her "diversity" is an additional asset that Nike is undoubtedly aware of when negotiating her contract is just stating the obvious. It's not charity, it's a rational business decision.
ducky now wrote:
Because Nike goes out of its way to promote diversity for the sake of diversity. Of course Nike is in favor of hiring a person of color over a white candidate if their qualifications are even close. It is no secret. They would advertise that as a positive aspect of their company.
Spotted the underachieving and bitter white guy.
Why jump to insults? Some of us have feelings.
if that’s the case then why doesn’t nike have any officially sponsored sprint groups? bowerman is simply just any other training group the only difference is nike pays schumacher instead of the athletes
grave disease wrote:
Why do you think NOP had "token" runners from a variety of different countries (Farah from GB, Levins from Canada, Osako from Japan, Koko from Germany)? It's not because they were "the next fastest runner in the world" and thus the best person for the job.
Lol @ these national record holders being called "token runners"
It's not like Farah won countless world and olympics medals, Koko is a world medallist, Levins and Osako are NR holders ... it's idiotic to say that these runners are on the team for diversity reasons. Do you think Hassan was with the NOP for diversity reasons too?
They runners you listed are just as fast, and many cases, faster, than the white americans on the team ...
jmqfa wrote:
grave disease wrote:
Why do you think NOP had "token" runners from a variety of different countries (Farah from GB, Levins from Canada, Osako from Japan, Koko from Germany)? It's not because they were "the next fastest runner in the world" and thus the best person for the job.
Lol @ these national record holders being called "token runners"
It's not like Farah won countless world and olympics medals, Koko is a world medallist, Levins and Osako are NR holders ... it's idiotic to say that these runners are on the team for diversity reasons. Do you think Hassan was with the NOP for diversity reasons too?
They runners you listed are just as fast, and many cases, faster, than the white americans on the team ...
“Under qualified” in the minds of small people.
Quigley just made a long post on instagram confirming she's leaving BTC
And doesn’t mention Nike at any point.
semesterofbernie wrote:
And doesn’t mention Nike at any point.
And none of her teammates commented their support.
Sometimes the LRC sleuths get it right
She effusively praises BTC athletes and coaches. Honestly, this isn't such a big deal as athletes in other sports almost always take the best deal on the table. Your time as a pro athlete is short and you have to maximize income while you can. If Nike wasn't helping that aim, then you find a better partner.
The tone of the post makes it seem like it is more her choice than theirs. The BTC post is the same tone as well.