Trollminator wrote:
In other news...
https://forward.com/news/national/451581/jon-ossoff-jewish-nose-david-perdue-antisemitic/
And also, Lindsey Graham was accused of darkening the skin of his African-American opponent in an ad.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/lindsey-graham-jaime-harrison-skin-tone-ad/index.htmlL L wrote:
You can’t be sure Cain got coronavirus from that specific rally.
It does show he was not concerned about being careful.
Could have gotten it on the flight there or back.
Maybe some other travel he did.
Maybe he visited people or had guests at his house.
The timeline doesn’t look good.
And regardless of where he specifically contracted it, his attitude was that he was not at risk.
The rally is still a symbol of death and disease.
The lesson is that if you are in your 70's you should not be traveling by plane and attending indoor gatherings.
Also, if you are in your 60's.
Also, if you are in your 50's or 40's or 30's or 20's.
Fat hurts wrote:
L L wrote:
You can’t be sure Cain got coronavirus from that specific rally.
It does show he was not concerned about being careful.
Could have gotten it on the flight there or back.
Maybe some other travel he did.
Maybe he visited people or had guests at his house.
The timeline doesn’t look good.
And regardless of where he specifically contracted it, his attitude was that he was not at risk.
The rally is still a symbol of death and disease.
The lesson is that if you are in your 70's you should not be traveling by plane and attending indoor gatherings.
Also, if you are in your 60's.
Also, if you are in your 50's or 40's or 30's or 20's.
A simple mask and hand washing could have saved him. His attitude was the he wasn't at risk and that he wasn't a risk to others. Perhaps he had it before Tulsa and gave it to a lot of people before he realized he had it. This whole situation we're in because of orange man obsession is so ridiculously out of control.
Hey Biff, don’t worry about the Cain news, just keep drinking a cocktail of Hydro, alien DNA and demon semen. ~ prescribed by Dr Stella
LOLz
Refreshing to see Obama, a real leader, speak again... gives the truth and gets a standing ovation. Meanwhile trump is bellyaching and can't tolerate Obama getting attention and applause so he called an unscheduled press event to take place at the same time hoping networks would cover him instead. Most petty and thin-skinned "person" I have ever seen.
https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1288907076257931264?s=20
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/07/30/trump-john-lewis-funeral.html
Trollminator wrote:
Hey Biff, don’t worry about the Cain news, just keep drinking a cocktail of Hydro, alien DNA and demon semen. ~ prescribed by Dr Stella
LOLz
His favorite might be the Ultraviolet backdoor prob.
https://youtu.be/k5hWWe-ts2s?t=110Trollminator wrote:
Next we'll see the trump minions calling McConnell a selfish and treasonous RINO.
Ultra Violet wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Hey Biff, don’t worry about the Cain news, just keep drinking a cocktail of Hydro, alien DNA and demon semen. ~ prescribed by Dr Stella
LOLz
His favorite might be the Ultraviolet backdoor prob.
Yikes, I’m that case, defer to M@GA - Make Another Grave Available
Trollminator wrote:
https://twitter.com/TheRickyDavila/status/1288865674870153216?s=20
I certainly hold Senators to a higher standard, but I'll admit that if I were shown a picture of either Rep. Lewis or Rep. Cummings with no context, I would have a difficult time telling them apart. Not so with Carson and Cain.
They need to settle this next stimulus bill.
Democrats want to keep the weekly unemployment bonus at $600/week.
Republicans want to drop it to $200.
Also Democrats want to give a bunch of money to the states to help with their shortfall.
Republicans aren’t offering much of anything to help the states.
Go with the $200 plus help with the states.
They both want an additional $1200 to everyone which I think is unnecessary.
But that’s to buy votes.
L L wrote:
They need to settle this next stimulus bill.
Democrats want to keep the weekly unemployment bonus at $600/week.
Republicans want to drop it to $200.
Also Democrats want to give a bunch of money to the states to help with their shortfall.
Republicans aren’t offering much of anything to help the states.
Go with the $200 plus help with the states.
They both want an additional $1200 to everyone which I think is unnecessary.
But that’s to buy votes.
The Rs don't even really agree on the $200, so this proposal was dead before arrival. Also, any amount makes a big difference to the little guy, but the reality is they are going back and forth on essentially peanuts out of the total they gave away to corporations (their friends and owners). What a racket.
Trollminator wrote:
L L wrote:
They need to settle this next stimulus bill.
Democrats want to keep the weekly unemployment bonus at $600/week.
Republicans want to drop it to $200.
Also Democrats want to give a bunch of money to the states to help with their shortfall.
Republicans aren’t offering much of anything to help the states.
Go with the $200 plus help with the states.
They both want an additional $1200 to everyone which I think is unnecessary.
But that’s to buy votes.
The Rs don't even really agree on the $200, so this proposal was dead before arrival. Also, any amount makes a big difference to the little guy, but the reality is they are going back and forth on essentially peanuts out of the total they gave away to corporations (their friends and owners). What a racket.
this just one more example of how money wrecks policy. Rs need to keep their corporate donors happy so they get all twisted up in knots. We need better leaders or spending caps on politics or something like that. Let lawmakers decide on the merits, not on balancing the good of the country with the good of your donors.
FOUNDER of the Federalist Society.
Right wingers and libertarians all.
Calls for the impeachment and removal of Donald Trump.
The times they are a-changing.
Rs are pushing back, now that primary season is over and it's clear trump will lose.
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I have voted Republican in every presidential election since 1980, including voting for Donald Trump in 2016. I wrote op-eds and a law review article protesting what I believe was an unconstitutional investigation by Robert Mueller. I also wrote an op-ed opposing President Trump’s impeachment.
But I am frankly appalled by the president’s recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist. But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opinion/trump-delay-election-coronavirus.html
Trollminator wrote:
L L wrote:
They need to settle this next stimulus bill.
Democrats want to keep the weekly unemployment bonus at $600/week.
Republicans want to drop it to $200.
Also Democrats want to give a bunch of money to the states to help with their shortfall.
Republicans aren’t offering much of anything to help the states.
Go with the $200 plus help with the states.
They both want an additional $1200 to everyone which I think is unnecessary.
But that’s to buy votes.
The Rs don't even really agree on the $200, so this proposal was dead before arrival. Also, any amount makes a big difference to the little guy, but the reality is they are going back and forth on essentially peanuts out of the total they gave away to corporations (their friends and owners). What a racket.
Actually I would like the $200 with help to the states. $600 is way too high. 60% of the people made more being laid off than working. That's crazy. We should never provide incentives for not working.
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Actually I would like the $200 with help to the states. $600 is way too high. 60% of the people made more being laid off than working. That's crazy. We should never provide incentives for not working.
My understanding is that the problem of the moment is a lack of work opportunities rather a lack of workers willing to fill jobs and that the infrastructure to do more a more targeted unemployment benefits simply isn't there in time to address the need.
I never really care what Rigged says about anything except now. Will the Trump minions believe that Trump is right and if he feels the democrats are "stealing" the election Trump should postpone it (even without constitutional right). Or will the minions fall back on the old standard escape clause, "Oh he was just triggering the liberals and the media"?
agip wrote:
FOUNDER of the Federalist Society.
Right wingers and libertarians all.
Calls for the impeachment and removal of Donald Trump.
The times they are a-changing.
Rs are pushing back, now that primary season is over and it's clear trump will lose.
///
I have voted Republican in every presidential election since 1980, including voting for Donald Trump in 2016. I wrote op-eds and a law review article protesting what I believe was an unconstitutional investigation by Robert Mueller. I also wrote an op-ed opposing President Trump’s impeachment.
But I am frankly appalled by the president’s recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist. But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opinion/trump-delay-election-coronavirus.html
priv wrote:
agip wrote:
yeah it would have to happen in an atmosphere of chaos and disorder...if fraud is found on a significant scale, if 100k mail-in ballots are rejected, if polling is hacked, if polling places are closed by violence or covid, if lawsuits are thrown by both sides and both have merit, etc. States could say 'we'll never know how people voted...we have no choice but to throw it to the state legislatures.'
The fact that this conversation is even happening in the US is just utterly stunning to me. It's the sort of question that tinpot dictatorship have to deal with, where the most corrupt governments are doing anything they can to manipulate election outcomes to their own nefarious ends.
How do we get back to a government representing and serving the people?!
I agree 100% with this. The one thing I will give Trump credit for, no matter how low I believe Trump is, he always surprises me by sinking even lower.
As far as incentives for not working:
When you close things down, you are telling people not to work.
So you do need to invectives for not working in order for a shutdown to work.
And there simply aren’t jobs to apply for in the current economy.
Forcing people to work by cutting off aid encourages the spread of the virus which causes more shutdowns.
On the other hand, you need the supply chains to continue for products to be sold, especially food. You need to plan for a safe way to do that.
The states have to be taken care of because they are on the front line of supplying unemployment benefits.
And none of this really pertains to Trump because he does not have the intellect to understand or communicate what’s needed on a macro economic level.
Congress will pass something and he will sign it - with no material input.
His only input has been for a payroll tax cut which both parties have said no to.
agip wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
The Rs don't even really agree on the $200, so this proposal was dead before arrival. Also, any amount makes a big difference to the little guy, but the reality is they are going back and forth on essentially peanuts out of the total they gave away to corporations (their friends and owners). What a racket.
this just one more example of how money wrecks policy. Rs need to keep their corporate donors happy so they get all twisted up in knots. We need better leaders or spending caps on politics or something like that. Let lawmakers decide on the merits, not on balancing the good of the country with the good of your donors.
There is a pretty simple solution - make illegal all corporate donations and individual amounts above a certain threshold to candidates and serving politicians. If their main financial master is the voter then they will serve them instead of the ultra rich a$$holes, and the corporate and foreign interest groups. Super PACs and insane amounts of raised funds have not proven to help the public in any way whatsoever. Super pacs were one of the most damaging SC decisions ever. Eligible voters are likely to become a lot more motivated if they know their donation and vote will actually give them a return. The problem with the current system is that we are not masters of the politicians.