Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

It's his hail Mary pass. He is way behind in the polls. His only chance is to hope for a vaccine and hope for the country to return to prosperity with himself leading the charge added to his churning up racial divisions.

He will without concern risk the health of the nation. It's his only chance.

07/10 Data

Everything is quickly going south. Many or most numbers I see are getting much worse, very quickly.

The world hit a new cyclical high in the 7 day average of daily deaths, highest since June 22.

The US hit a new cyclical high in the 7 day average of daily deaths, highest since June 19.

The daily death counts of the four problem states (compared to a week ago) are going parabolic, although much of that is due to low reporting a week ago because of the July 4 holiday weekend.

But for the record, the 7 day average of daily deaths in AZ CA TX CA was up 46% over a week ago. Each state hit a new all time high.

It's all going pear shaped boys,

And to think that if Republican politicians had just pushed masks from the start, plus some minimal social distancing, thousands of American lives would have been saved. A more spectacular feat of poor governance would be hard to identify. They all need to go.

The genius of Trump’s stupidity is that his poor management looks like it will lead to worsening economic numbers going into September and October as the early and unorganized reopenings lead back to closings before the election.

Before it's all over, this pandemic will leave 10 million Americans with scarred lungs.

If we keep burning fossil fuels we can finish them off.

agip wrote:

It's all going pear shaped, boys. And to think that if Republican politicians had just pushed masks from the start, plus some minimal social distancing, thousands of American lives would have been saved. A more spectacular feat of poor governance would be hard to identify. They all need to go.

Hear, hear!

Fat hurts wrote:

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/90538fc/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fe4%2F1c%2F02d4ed0649de8d157066783e0241%2Fwuc200707-1160.jpg

To paraphrase George Carlin: The planet itself is just fine. Earth has been a lot warmer than this, and a lot colder, and come through it all just fine. It's been around for 4+ billion years, and will be around for some billions more.

The *environment for people* is fvcked, but the planet is great!

formerly present wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/90538fc/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fe4%2F1c%2F02d4ed0649de8d157066783e0241%2Fwuc200707-1160.jpg

To paraphrase George Carlin: The planet itself is just fine. Earth has been a lot warmer than this, and a lot colder, and come through it all just fine. It's been around for 4+ billion years, and will be around for some billions more.

The *environment for people* is fvcked, but the planet is great!

Not sure why folks say this ^.

Obviously, the planet itself will continue to exist, whether its average temperature is 60 degrees or 160 degrees. The planet obviously doesn't give a sh!t.

But that hardly qualifies as an insight and does not seem even remotely relevant. So why do folks repeat it?

Here's what doesn't make sense and hasn't made sense for the last 2 or 3 months. Had the POTUS simply said/tweeted every day to wear a mask and social distance, there's a decent chance that we'd have less push back from those who appear to be part of the Trump crowd to not wear masks. This may have led to less spread of the virus even though the country would have begun to open up. In all likelihood this one simple move would have led to an easy re-election for Trump. Now he's faced with a problem on all sides when it pertains to the virus and the economy plus he likely didn't win any fans by his reaction/non-reaction to the protests.

He is losing this election himself and it was remarkably easy to avoid doing so. Now he's stuck on a wish.

Trollminator wrote:

Keep in mind that earlier today Stone told a journalist that he was hoping for a pardon because he could have turned on the president and resisted pressure to do so and that it would have made his life easier. That is pretty much an admission that he was in a position to implicate trump. And so there is no shred of doubt that his sentence was commuted as a reward for protecting him.

Stone was charged with 7 counts related directly to the Mueller investigation. 1 for obstruction of justice, 5 for lying to Congress, 1 for witness intimidation where he threatened to kill the witness and his dog if they testified against him. This amounts to spitting in the face of congress, the justice department and this intimidated witness... not to mention the American people.

Are enough people in the right states going to care?

I think the Stone pardon is a non-needle mover.

1100 wrote:

formerly present wrote:

To paraphrase George Carlin: The planet itself is just fine. Earth has been a lot warmer than this, and a lot colder, and come through it all just fine. It's been around for 4+ billion years, and will be around for some billions more.

The *environment for people* is fvcked, but the planet is great!

Not sure why folks say this ^.

Obviously, the planet itself will continue to exist, whether its average temperature is 60 degrees or 160 degrees. The planet obviously doesn't give a sh!t.

But that hardly qualifies as an insight and does not seem even remotely relevant. So why do folks repeat it?

If you assume that the warming is caused mostly by human involvement or even just furthered by it, then it is a valid statement. We have seen amazing drops in air pollution during this COVID time. If the world were suddenly without people, the ironic thing is that it probably wouldn't take that long (historically speaking) for the earth to be a great place for humans again.

When people say "save the planet", many of them don't necessarily think it through. We are, of course, wanting to save the environment so it is safe for humans. Less important but still important is to try to save as many species as possible. It all benefits humans.

1100 wrote:

Obviously, the planet itself will continue to exist, whether its average temperature is 60 degrees or 160 degrees. The planet obviously doesn't give a sh!t.

But that hardly qualifies as an insight and does not seem even remotely relevant. So why do folks repeat it?

Because when you say, as some do, "Humans are destroying the planet!" it tends to let the polluters and the oblivious off the hook: The *planet* clearly isn't going anywhere.

Whereas when you say "Humans are destroying our environment!" or even "We humans are killing ourselves!" that tends to put the focus where it belongs: on how human lives are being and will be harmed and destroyed.

It really is a travesty of leadership. The real ironic part, if they used smart smart behavior in how they opened up we would be much closer to normal with more businesses open.

Regarding 1) above; It only doesn't make sense if one assumes that the POTUS is a rational being.

Regarding 2) above; What you say is true. But, on a personal level, I find it impossible to relate to. Do people really look to some "leader" to tell them what to do? The obvious answer is "Yes, they do." I cannot even begin to relate to that . #differentspeciesaltogether

seattle prattle wrote:

hey, maybe this is apparent to the rest of you, but what's the chance that Trump simply told Stone at the outset, you lie to protect me and in return, I will do what i can to pardon you.

Sure, unethical and illegal as hell, but what else can a guy (trump) who is about to be implicated offer to someone (Stone) about to implicate him. So, a deal arranged from the start.

It looks like hell, granted, but it's better than the alternative, which would have been getting fingered.

Of course this is what happened, even if implied. It’s a circle of crooks that can take each other out but they are all afraid of ratting out and then getting fkd. No doubt Flynn will also be pardoned.

formerly present wrote:

1100 wrote:

Obviously, the planet itself will continue to exist, whether its average temperature is 60 degrees or 160 degrees. The planet obviously doesn't give a sh!t.

But that hardly qualifies as an insight and does not seem even remotely relevant. So why do folks repeat it?

Because when you say, as some do, "Humans are destroying the planet!" it tends to let the polluters and the oblivious off the hook: The *planet* clearly isn't going anywhere.

Whereas when you say "Humans are destroying our environment!" or even "We humans are killing ourselves!" that tends to put the focus where it belongs: on how human lives are being and will be harmed and destroyed.

That assumes that people, in general, are unbelievably stupid.

Ok, yeah, fair point.

What’s really amazing is his inability to be rational. He knows he’s seen as a despicable person and terrible leader by more than half the country. But still how he couldn’t figure out that by slightly tweaking his strategy to appeal a bit more to the center, he could be sailing away with a clear win in Nov. He is an unstable idiot.

1100 wrote:

Obviously, the planet itself will continue to exist, whether its average temperature is 60 degrees or 160 degrees. The planet obviously doesn't give a sh!t.

But that hardly qualifies as an insight and does not seem even remotely relevant. So why do folks repeat it?

When we say "Save the planet", everybody knows that that means.

Anyone who attacks the phrase is just trolling. And the usual reason is because they don't want to deal with the reality that the planet needs saving.