not sure what to say other than if your nation/state/territory slaughters 1000+ Israeli civilians in a surprise attack, your cities will have a lot of rubble afterwards. That's how this works.
The Nazis knew not to tell all their citizens what they were doing in the camps, because of some element of shame and morality in the German nation.
That is absolutely untrue. You are repeating lies and excuses that have no merit. Germans were well aware of the treatment and genocide of Jews in the 30s and 40s. They voted for it, fully engaged in it, geared every aspect of their society to it (even at the cost of their world war effort), and celebrated it. There was no attempt at hiding what was going on and no atavistic sense of morality playing out anywhere in Germany. Even the alleged post-Holocaust shame is a lie. If it even existed, it lasted maybe a month after V-E day.
not sure what to say other than if your nation/state/territory slaughters 1000+ Israeli civilians in a surprise attack, your cities will have a lot of rubble afterwards. That's how this works.
but the more interesting point is how brazenly murderous Hamas is. Very very few groups actively go shoot 1000 civilians and then brag about it, knowing your people will cheer for it. The Nazis knew not to tell all their citizens what they were doing in the camps, because of some element of shame and morality in the German nation. Apparently Hamas/Palestinians do not have that element.
One of the rare times that I agree with Baghdad agip.
It appears, ACCORDING TO THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCE that children were not beheaded. That is the point, can you read?
As for the attack itself, disgusting and condemn it without reserve. Same for the bombardment of innocents in Gaza since the weekend.
If you try to fact check you're antisemitic
A intelligent person knows better than to equate the rape, torture and beheading of children and the elderly with militants being killed while taking human shields.
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Doesn't work that, murder is murder and both deliberately killed civilians (and both claim to have good reasons for it).
I realize you're just a Jew hating troll, but I'll play for a moment. Israel goes after military targets and sends warnings. If Hamas chooses to use civilian's as human shields and people do not heed the warnings, it's on them. Obviously you aren't familiar with basic law and what murder actually is.
Perhaps you should go back to chanting "gas the Jews" with your friends in Sydney.
On Day 1 of the mission to destroy Gaza, Israel destroyed everything in the ten block Al-Furqan area, including a mosque, a university, two banks, and anything and anyone that was breathing. The neighborhood is effectively gone. Reduced to rubble. Uninhabitable. Imagine where terrorists will be on Day 30 of Operation No Restraint?
not sure what to say other than if your nation/state/territory slaughters 1000+ Israeli civilians in a surprise attack, your cities will have a lot of rubble afterwards. That's how this works.
It appears you may think Otto is on the opposite side from the side he is actually on.
BLM is a vile, anti-Semitic group of anti-American bigots. Always have been, always will be.
#F BLM
BLM should just stick to stuff that the media approves of, like looting sprees and burning down businesses. Going after Israel was a guaranteed massive image failure for BLM.
The people who think the Palestinians have legitimate grievances are doing a disservice if they don't do clear throated condemnation of Hamas tactics and goals.
It is too easy to lump all Palestinians to Hamas when people try to dismiss or excuse Hamas brazen attack on Israel citizens. It is too easy for Israel and its supporters to circle the wagon and then say there is never going to be hope for peace if Palestinians and their supporters don't clearly denounce attacks like Hamas just did. Israel will prioritize security over much of anything else if they feel under siege.
I support the Palestinians to have their own homeland. I support Israel being the homeland for the Jewish people. That is the best hope for peace.
When people start saying Israel should not exist, how is that going to bring any movement toward peace.
There is little hope for peace with the current leadership on either side.
Jewish Israelis are not going to leave. They are not going to go along with any plan where they become a minority in their own state. Palestinians are not going to give up on their goal to have their own state. No matter how much either side suffers they are not going to give up on their idea of have having a homeland and having rights of self determination.
The right wing and most religious Israels are willing to give up on being a liberal democratic state for land. Some of the most religious care more about land than Israel's best interests. Their religious book have priority over Israel laws. They are a problem.
Any support to Hamas is a problem. They don't help Palestinians' interest who want a Palestinian state that peacefully co-exists with Israel. Hamas has a history of creating a veto on negotiations with a bomb veto in the past. They are a big problem.
People compare Hamas to Nazis. That's not fair. Nazis knew killing Jews was wrong. That's why they did it in secret, mostly in Poland at isolated death camps (Auschwitz, Majdanek, Treblinka, Sobibor, Chelmno, Belzec). At war's end covered over their crimes, burned documents, destroyed gas chambers & denied it after. Hamas is bragging about murdering Jews, posting videos on social media & declaring "Allahu Akbar" If you do not support Israel & the Jews, you are literally worse than the Nazis.
A bit simplistic. But then people do get simplistic during crises.
What exactly does it mean to "support Israel & the Jews?"
Does it mean that one feels bad for them?
That one thinks they are uniformly blameless for the conflict?
That any and every action they take in response to the recent atrocity is absolutely right, just and holy?
As I've said before, I would fully support an action that would put a bullet in the head of every single individual who knowingly and willingly planned, funded or executed the Hamas attack if such action did not also result in the death and suffering of countless thousands of others, not involved. Unfortunately, life is not so simple.
Would you support the Israelis killing every man, woman and child in Gaza? If so, you support essentially infinite evil. If not then, according to you, "you are literally worse than the Nazis."
As I said, your post was a bit simplistic. And there are no simple answers here. At least, none that are correct.
People compare Hamas to Nazis. That's not fair. Nazis knew killing Jews was wrong. That's why they did it in secret, mostly in Poland at isolated death camps (Auschwitz, Majdanek, Treblinka, Sobibor, Chelmno, Belzec). At war's end covered over their crimes, burned documents, destroyed gas chambers & denied it after. Hamas is bragging about murdering Jews, posting videos on social media & declaring "Allahu Akbar" If you do not support Israel & the Jews, you are literally worse than the Nazis.
A bit simplistic. But then people do get simplistic during crises.
What exactly does it mean to "support Israel & the Jews?"
Does it mean that one feels bad for them?
That one thinks they are uniformly blameless for the conflict?
That any and every action they take in response to the recent atrocity is absolutely right, just and holy?
As I've said before, I would fully support an action that would put a bullet in the head of every single individual who knowingly and willingly planned, funded or executed the Hamas attack if such action did not also result in the death and suffering of countless thousands of others, not involved. Unfortunately, life is not so simple.
Would you support the Israelis killing every man, woman and child in Gaza? If so, you support essentially infinite evil. If not then, according to you, "you are literally worse than the Nazis."
As I said, your post was a bit simplistic. And there are no simple answers here. At least, none that are correct.
These guys just can’t help themselves. They’re outed every single time.