Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

I think there is an underestimation of the effect of the contracted economy on the next couple of years. The large corporations are only starting to respond to the new environment so I believe those white collar job losses are coming very soon.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

https://theweek.com/articles/883818/epstein-conspiracy-theorists-have-conveniently-forgotten-about-trump

Oops.

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Oops.

Slick Willy flew at least 26 times on the Lolita Express between 2001-2003.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/08/clinton-painting.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

Thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to vote for Biden instead of Clinton this time.

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

agip wrote:

The good news is that there is next to zero chance Joe Biden is in Maxwell's little black book.

Trump is, obviously.

I don't think Bill Clinton is much relevant to Biden V. Trump 2020.

Correct.

Rigged doesn’t care he wants Trump to get away with criminal behavior.

You don't care about Dementia Joe's quid pro quo to get a prosecutor fired either.

agip wrote:

Racket wrote:

No one is disagreeing with this except I'll point out that the US government is borrowing money essentially for free. Every part of the economy is tied together, but some threads are lot smaller than others.

outstanding use of the English language - kudos.

It's missing an "a" before "lot" sadly. Where's that LRC intern? I thought he was gonna make posts editable!

Exactly, why the fvck Trumpers think anything relating to Epstein, Maxwell, Barr or Acosta is a winning angle for them is startling.

agip wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

In times like this, it's the moral and ethical questions that really matter. Government assistance has to go to those who need it most.

Get money in the hands of the lower classes. They will spend all of it. That's a better way to boost the economy than trying to cajole white collar people to spend more.

well, do both obviously. Why not.

Although I'm not sure how you cajole rich people into spending. Sales tax holidays maybe? But that would cut city tax revenue at a very very bad time.

Maybe TX and FL are doing just that - opening fast, trying to get rich people to spend. We'll see how that ends up.

I have to say, it's pretty amazing how low our tolerance is for just a few military deaths and how endless it seems to be for disease and virus-related deaths. All are lives in the end and we have a situation in which so much death could have been prevented or at least delayed but a good 40% of the country isn't up in arms.

Fat hurts wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Oops.

Slick Willy flew at least 26 times on the Lolita Express between 2001-2003.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/08/clinton-painting.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

Thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to vote for Biden instead of Clinton this time.

Ok, look forward to your 8 year presidential election losing streak!

L L wrote:

agip wrote:

Well I didn't really want to go there, but restaurant and hotel workers are a low-paid lot...losing their incomes isn't a fatal blow to the economy. They'll get unemployment and will struggle on.

First of all, a high quantity of people not working is very bad for the overall economy.

Secondly, states are running out of money to fund unemployment claims.

They have to borrow from the federal government to pay the claims.

The federal government issues more debt to lend to the states.

And processing claims hasn't gone smoothly.

High earning corporations ultimately get their money off of the backs of the workers, either by their production or their spending.

Every part of the economy is tied together.

And don't forget the massive fraud that has been happening in plain view and even worse endorsed by the GOP... checks to tens of thousands of dead people, billions in bailout dollars unaccounted for and no plans to do so, contractors and companies tied to trump getting huge chunks of cash...

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

Correct.

Rigged doesn’t care he wants Trump to get away with criminal behavior.

You don't care about Dementia Joe's quid pro quo to get a prosecutor fired either.

Yeah that’s the same as allegation of sex assault from 25 women.

Racket wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

"It doesn't matter. Perception and control of the narrative is key here."

What does that mean? Trump has tried to convince people that the pandemic is over, but even his base didn't want to attend his rally.

Sorry that it isn't clear though. I'm afraid it's really not interesting enough to me to deconstruct further so I'll just have to leave it at that.

Convenient... I guess I fully agree with your initial point, but I wouldn't assume trump is in full control of things. You would have to believe polls and ratings are completely irrelevant to make an argument that he's still as effective at driving narrative as he once was.

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

In times like this, it's the moral and ethical questions that really matter. Government assistance has to go to those who need it most.

Get money in the hands of the lower classes. They will spend all of it. That's a better way to boost the economy than trying to cajole white collar people to spend more.

That's basically just a prompt for a freshmen ethics paper on Kantian vs utilitarian ethics. Seems to me that with the number of people reporting making more on unemployment than at work and the $1200 stimulus that lower class got fulfilled to a nontrivial degree. So the real question is regarding how much they should get and for how long, and when does that in and off itself become unethical.

Yes, it's not a bad prompt for such a paper.

The idea behind the $1200 payments was that Americans needed emergency cash and this was the fastest way to get it to them. It turned out that it was not all that fast. And it was quite wasteful as it went to a lot of people who didn't need it, including the deceased.

The idea behind the $600 extra unemployment payments was to make people on unemployment earn about the same as they would if they were working. A flat cash payment was a very imprecise way to do that. Some made more than while working. Some made less.

So now congress is trying to decide if these programs should continue or if they should try something else or if they should do nothing at all.

Whether you are a Kantian or a utilitarian or even a sophist, "do nothing at all" is probably the wrong move.

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Oops.

Slick Willy flew at least 26 times on the Lolita Express between 2001-2003.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/08/clinton-painting.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

No oops at all. I’m not a Clinton fan boi. I have no respect for Bill Clinton because of his connection to Epstein and would to see them all arrested and convicted of proved guilty. It’s called consistency and principles Rigged.

Trump has the same connection to Epstein but you don’t care you adore a con man and pervert.

Being photographed with Epstein, or flying with him somewhere, is not proof that someone participated in or knew about Epstein's hobby. I don't know about Trump, but Clinton would distance himself from Epstein if he knew about it and would notify the authorities. Anyone with at least half a clue that wasn't attracted to underage girls, would do the same.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

semsurrrrrrrrr wrote:

No oops at all. I’m not a Clinton fan boi. I have no respect for Bill Clinton because of his connection to Epstein and would to see them all arrested and convicted of proved guilty. It’s called consistency and principles Rigged.

Trump has the same connection to Epstein but you don’t care you adore a con man and pervert.

Being photographed with Epstein, or flying with him somewhere, is not proof that someone participated in or knew about Epstein's hobby. I don't know about Trump, but Clinton would distance himself from Epstein if he knew about it and would notify the authorities. Anyone with at least half a clue that wasn't attracted to underage girls, would do the same.

Then why did Slick Willy ditch his Secret Service detail on a flight to Pedo Island? It certainly wasn't to make speeches. He hooked up with underage girls, get over yourself.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Being photographed with Epstein, or flying with him somewhere, is not proof that someone participated in or knew about Epstein's hobby. I don't know about Trump, but Clinton would distance himself from Epstein if he knew about it and would notify the authorities. Anyone with at least half a clue that wasn't attracted to underage girls, would do the same.

Then why did Slick Willy ditch his Secret Service detail on a flight to Pedo Island? It certainly wasn't to make speeches. He hooked up with underage girls, get over yourself.

Trump on Epstein: “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Being photographed with Epstein, or flying with him somewhere, is not proof that someone participated in or knew about Epstein's hobby. I don't know about Trump, but Clinton would distance himself from Epstein if he knew about it and would notify the authorities. Anyone with at least half a clue that wasn't attracted to underage girls, would do the same.

Then why did Slick Willy ditch his Secret Service detail on a flight to Pedo Island? It certainly wasn't to make speeches. He hooked up with underage girls, get over yourself.

Like Biden, Clinton has dementia and can be forgiven.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Then why did Slick Willy ditch his Secret Service detail on a flight to Pedo Island? It certainly wasn't to make speeches. He hooked up with underage girls, get over yourself.

You should get your head examined... It's 2020 and you are talking about Bill Clinton on a Trump thread. Oh, and on a topic you have no clue about with zero evidence to support your claims from conspiracy and right-wing rags.

Trollminator wrote:

The problem with this is that we are no longer able to put a finger on the total number of “supporters” or “Republicans”. I would be afraid if a growing number of people are now MORE supportive of him, but there seems to some signs of a real watering down of his so called supporters.

44% of people surveyed by Pew support Trump. (And I think the sampling margin is +- 3%.)

And here is the big problem. 76% of Trump supporters are voting for him. 67% of Biden supporters are voting against Trump.

Don't be complacent. Vote in November as if your life depends on it. Because it really does.

Don't let your guard down until Jan. 21. Trump will do anything to avoid prison.

Borrowing money may be essentially free for the US government but it takes the will and cooperation of Congress to pass something to keep helping the states and individuals with unemployment benefits.

The original basis of the $600/week federal unemployment payment is that they were paying people not to work, because they wanted people staying home and not spreading the virus.

The idea of opening things back up contradicts this reasoning.

State unemployment benefits keep going if you can show you are looking for work. At the same time they don't want you working, so you shouldn't be looking for work. But they also do want you working, so you should look.

Regardless, there aren't jobs to be found.

This cycle is bad.

Back to Congress. There will be a push for more stimulus as the election approaches.

And there will be bargaining between the parties, each of which controls one house so they have to agree to pass anything.

Trump will sign whatever they give him if it helps the economy, so his opinion and leadership is moot.

The will to throw money at the problem is there now when it wasn't in 2008.

But the way to put that money out there is a whole other issue.

Stay tuned for how that goes.

I can guarantee you that the biggest losers will be the lowers earners.